If you say so Sparky, all I know for sure is they are not drunk.
Back to the draft---how can they pull this off in today's world.?
Well, in today's world they have to register with selective service so they could probably use that.
At one time we had the ROTC in schools, we still have the Sea Cadets but not a huge amount of kids like to march and drill except for school bands and the cheerleaders.
ROTC has what to do with a draft? Scouts is a good preparation for military service. My son was in Civil Air Patrol from the time he was 12. There's a lot of drill but there's also O-flights (kids actually get to fly planes and gliders), search and rescues, space and aviation education, and review boards that teach young people tremendous leadership skills. By the time my son finished the cadet program he was the highest ranking cadet in the state and loved it so much he was a senior member while he was in the DEP program and finishing college.
Will we draft the illegals, convicted gang bangers, how will we handle the 5 times a day the Muslims must stop and pray.?
Why the hell would we draft illegals? Supposedly they don't even register with selective service because no one is supposed to know they're here. The key word here is ILLEGAL. In the case of gang bangers, I'd guess that would depend on the individual and how well they were able to clean up their act. One of my sons good friends (they met at boot) is from inner city Chicago and he's a damn fine Marine. As far as "the Muslims" are concerned...you DO realize there are Muslims in the service today, right? I don't think the ONLY Muslim left was the guy that just went on a rampage at Fort Hood. My guess is they could continue to handle it the way they're handling it now.
So we find that 6 out of every 10 persons drafted is not fit for duty, what do we do with them.? We can give them comunity service, sure and take away jobs from those too old to be drafted.? Where is the money coming from to get paint and brushes. shovels and what not for these guys to do their job.
Okay, I admit you've got me here! I suggest if we don't have a draft we don't have to worry about what to do with the ones that don't measure up. But I guess if they can find money for TARP, shovel-ready projects, and propping up auto workers' union jobs, they can find the money for paint, brushes, and shovels...maybe even a hammer and a wrench or two.
How much comunity service is needed in your town Sparky, most of down town is clean, only thing is a few areas that private homes and apartment buildings really need to be fixed up---But that would be service free not the public but to the private sector. Say 15 young draftees cannot cut the mustard and come home to your town and to a 4 year contract for comunity service.
Well, you must live an idyllic life because even in my VERY small town groups can find plenty of ways to be of service. Boy Scouts beautify parks, pick up trash, act as greeters at community meetings and events. Public buildings need sprucing, library books need to be put back on the shelves, fund raising drives abound to pay for summer concerts and other community events, etc. I bet there's a ton more things in bigger towns and cities.
Besides working in the homeless shelters, there is little for 15 men/woman can do in your town to be of service. The courts are overloaded with people given a comunity service sentence all ready.
Okay, let's see what we can come up with, assuming we let the criminals continue to pick up trash: I don't know a school that couldn't use more volunteers, nor a community event that doesn't need more help. How about those who don't qualify for military service can find ways to help in their own neighborhoods. I bet there's plenty of inner city housing that could use a bit of sprucing. Take some of the billions of subsidies given to slum lords and buy paints, brushes, trash bags, etc.
I read that in Russia, those depending on the government for money had to do community service. Sweep streets or shovel snow, tend to the ill. All this sounds good but human nature being what it is with no incentive to go up the ladder, it did not matter if they worked or not.
Well, see, you've solved part of the problem already! For incentive how about, no work, no welfare.
It got to the point that people worked only when they were not drunk.
It is no wonder the country fell apart.
Alcohol was a symptom, not a cause.
I remember my Dad in 1958 or 59 looking at his short timers chain. " The military has changed, young kids off the streets of New York are coming in now and they have dope and switch blades, they have never slept in a hammock aboard a boat, or been awaken by being dumped on the deck."
Well tell your dad everything is okay. To my knowledge all civilian gear (including dope and switchblades) are taken away just after they put their feet on those yellow foot prints. And I'm quite sure the military is well equipped to to teach new recruits to sleep in barracks or on a SHIP (a boat is something you fish from and ski behind). As for being dumped on a deck, I'm pretty sure only the Coast Guard, Navy, and Marines generally have to worry about a deck dump. The Army and Air Force, not so much. Still, I'm pretty sure if they made it through boot camp, they could probably handle standing on the deck of a ship.
Some of you guys remind me of him, the short timers and how much has changed in the military in the last 20 years.
Huh?
Sparky, those 2 submariners that were either on drugs of drunk from the Sub in for overhaul that went nuts and beat a townie in his 60's half to death is just a sign of the times. The education they had, their IQ, their passing 500 mental tests for that duty meant nothing. They were thugs passing as well adjusted, calm, and someone to depend on.
Huh? (But I repeat myself).
I'm all for trying the draft, why not, but I do not think the military can handle these new age draftees. Unless the military goes back to the old time boot camps, Cuss and swearing every 3 words, turning these children into men and woman. It all starts there you know at the beginning of boot camp.
We tried a draft. Didn't work. The military doesn't want them. As for the "new age" draftees, as long as they go into the Air Force Academy they should be okay since they now have a rock circle to worship around. How does cussing and swearing turn someone into a man? Granted, I've heard some pretty foul things come out of the mouths of Marines (usually followed by "sorry mom") but they're already men.
I think I'm dumber now because I think I lost a few brain cells reading this.
Cindie
