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Anyone else feel this way??
« on: February 01, 2010, 01:56:20 PM »
Hi,

I feel like I am in the eye of the hurricane, been blasted for awhile, then calm, then about to get blasted again.

For example, it looks like the president is going step into it big time because conditions are right for it.  Trying the gitmo detainees in civilian courts is the issue, not the location.  They should be tried by military tribunals.  When the muslim terrorist shot up Fort Hood he urged caution and rushing to judgment.    He allowed the justice department to give the guy Miranda rights when he tried to blow up the plane instead of treating him as a terrorist.  He has done much to weaken our national security and national defense.  Now the public is about to catch on that he is a muslim sympathizer at best, and just may be helping their cause.  Now here is my concern, what does he do and how long does he wait to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon?  External forces are going to cause him to have to take a stand he will be shown to be what he really is, an unqualified muslim sympathizer.

Now on to health care.  If you were going to shove health care down the throats of the citizens and did not give a damn how they felt, just how would you go about it?  How about this?  You just talk nice like you did at the State of the Union, create the illusion that you have changed spots and minimize the damage at the elections in the fall.  Then, once the votes are in, before the new congress assembles in 2011 you ram through health care through reconciliation, jam cap and trade and card check through all in December.  Only thing that could stop it would be the democrats, if they all went along there would be nothing we could do.  Even if Senator Reid gets canned, think he gives a damn at that point, he would vote in the commie agenda and walk away.

I would be more concerned if the libs create the illusion of backing of, we need them to continue with their crap so the public is constantly bombarded and kept uneasy so it is stuck in their craw come election time.

I really think BO is about to be totally unmasked and it is going to get really ugly, you think racism cries are loud now, just wait when the white democrats start to turn on him.  Personally, to me the sooner the better, bring it on....

Anyone like me, think we are in the lull before the really big storm? 

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Re: Anyone else feel this way??
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 02:12:31 PM »
Hi,

I feel like I am in the eye of the hurricane, been blasted for awhile, then calm, then about to get blasted again.


Anyone like me, think we are in the lull before the really big storm? 

regards,
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You have put it differently than I been thinking, but your description is much more apt....amd I feel pretty much the same way.

I don't think I have ever felt more unsettled with what is happening in our country than I have since Obama won the election.

Even as a child during air-raid drills or when the Kennedys and MLK were shot. Even during Vietnam when guys I knew were going over there, or girls as nurses being sent somewhere to take care of the wounded soldiers.

Even worse than that horrible day as I watched an airplane fly into a building and realize that life in my country was going to change.

I not only fear what Obama is doing to our country.....I fear that someone will murder him....and the ensuing chaos that would happen.

I fele afraid in ways that I have never felt, or had reason to feel, afraid before.

I don't like feeling this way....

Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 03:48:02 PM »

You have put it differently than I been thinking, but your description is much more apt....amd I feel pretty much the same way.

I don't think I have ever felt more unsettled with what is happening in our country than I have since Obama won the election.

Even as a child during air-raid drills or when the Kennedys and MLK were shot. Even during Vietnam when guys I knew were going over there, or girls as nurses being sent somewhere to take care of the wounded soldiers.

Even worse than that horrible day as I watched an airplane fly into a building and realize that life in my country was going to change.

I not only fear what Obama is doing to our country.....I fear that someone will murder him....and the ensuing chaos that would happen.

I fele afraid in ways that I have never felt, or had reason to feel, afraid before.

I don't like feeling this way....



Wow,

Thank you for posting that.  You took what I posted and attached some very appropriate emotions to it.

Very powerful indeed.

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2010, 04:00:33 PM »
Deb said a mouthful. I wish it weren't true but it is.

I tell you why I have such a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach - folks like you 5412 who have seen their fair share of presidents. No disrepect intended - I mean just the opposite. I'm only 39 years old. When my parents and grandparents and their peers worry I know it's time to start really worrying.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 04:52:07 PM »
DebK, your not alone...Many of us feel this way...I am 73 yrs young, an have seen much in my lifetimie.....remembering WWII, the depression, and all that ha happended since, and my fear grows worse by the day...not for myself, heck I have lived my life so to speak, but my children, grandchildren, and great grans are the ones I fear for...All I can say is for those of us who are believers, if God brought it to us, he will take us through it....So pray and pray some more.....I too fear the president being killed, and what would happen to our country then...It would be more than most of us could bear...I do not want to live to see another president or anyone else shot down, their wives and children having to live through that too...
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 07:45:28 PM »
DebK, your not alone...Many of us feel this way...I am 73 yrs young, an have seen much in my lifetimie.....remembering WWII, the depression, and all that ha happended since, and my fear grows worse by the day...not for myself, heck I have lived my life so to speak, but my children, grandchildren, and great grans are the ones I fear for...All I can say is for those of us who are believers, if God brought it to us, he will take us through it....So pray and pray some more.....I too fear the president being killed, and what would happen to our country then...It would be more than most of us could bear...I do not want to live to see another president or anyone else shot down, their wives and children having to live through that too...

Hi,

I am really responding to both you and Deb.  I too fear the reaction if something were to happen to Obama.  In time the democrats will be taking him down or he will take the country down, one or the other.  It is scary.

May will be my 70th birthday and never in my life have I truly FEARED our government until now.   Worked hard all my life, played by the rules, raised good children who work hard and pay taxes, served my country when needed.....under the illusion that one gets their just reward.   Now we have a president that wants to ration our health care, has a health care czar that wants old people dead, cannot wait until we die before trying to take as much of our savings as they can.....and the biggest frustration is the damn democrats are enablers......that is what is galling.  They flat do not care!

Never before in my life have I seriously thought we might have a civil war and states may try to secede, nor have I worried about a huge racial war breaking out in this country.  My wife and I have loaded over 1,000 round of ammunition since the first of the year.  All they do is spew racial and econmic hatred pitting one class of society against another.  All to enhance their own power.  If this crap does not stop, once the first shot gets fired it will get ugly; particularly if BO tries to declare martial law and confiscate our guns.  

I have a friend who is a retired US Marshall and I told him that I doubted the national guard would fire on their own.  He told me the government already has plans in place to move the guard around so they are not in their home state.  Just recently I read where they were planning to use the guard for civil disturbances.  Scary stuff.

The other shoe will drop, they are not done trying to turn this into a communist country.  Fasten your seat belts and keep your hands inside the ride folks....

regards,
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PS:  After watching Glenn Beck tonight, I am even more certain something is going to happen.  Talk about reinforcing fears.  One simple question, "Do you feel secure about our freedom in America?" 
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Re: Anyone else feel this way??
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2010, 10:29:07 PM »
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PS:  After watching Glenn Beck tonight, I am even more certain something is going to happen.  Talk about reinforcing fears.  One simple question, "Do you feel secure about our freedom in America?" 


I watched Beck tonight too.

Strange how it was just after we briefly talked about it this afternoon.

What is even scarier ....is how we are spread out around the country....and yet still have the same concerns.

Because of how we are spread about....it makes me think that the unrest when it comes...will not just hit one place...but many places. It gives me some comfort, that I live in a very "red" area....both the residents and most of the politicians....and many here have guns.

Ya know....I've never been an alarmist, a demonstrator, a rabble rouser of any kind.

I think the fact that I'm so concerned .....has me even more concerned.

Does that make sense?



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Re: Anyone else feel this way??
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2010, 09:32:00 AM »
Do not let fear define your lives....I too am very very concerned about the leadership we have, and the only way to assuage those fears is with rationale and clear minds.....This country must ban together as it never has before, peacefully and responsibly and regain control of our lives...The Tea Party movement will be the best bet, as long as it has intelligent and peace minded leadership...There must not be bloodshed above all.....That is beneath the true American Spirit....First of all, Glenn Beck is a sensationalist....A showman if you will....And don't get me wrong, he has awakened the bear in many of us and made us think....That's fine and dandy, as long as we don't let him control our own way of thinking, and let him throw the fear of God into you all....I personally, rarely, if ever watch the man...Not that I don't lilke him, I just don't need him to do my thinking for me...I am well aware of what is going on with our administration, without the theatrics....Do you remember the words we have nothing to fear but fear itself ?? Below is an article I recently read....And especially the last couple of paragraphs may help you relax a bit...

http://www.conservativemonitor.com/opinion/2002027.shtml
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Re: Anyone else feel this way??
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2010, 10:39:51 PM »
Do not let fear define your lives....I too am very very concerned about the leadership we have, and the only way to assuage those fears is with rationale and clear minds.....This country must ban together as it never has before, peacefully and responsibly and regain control of our lives...The Tea Party movement will be the best bet, as long as it has intelligent and peace minded leadership...There must not be bloodshed above all.....That is beneath the true American Spirit....First of all, Glenn Beck is a sensationalist....A showman if you will....And don't get me wrong, he has awakened the bear in many of us and made us think....That's fine and dandy, as long as we don't let him control our own way of thinking, and let him throw the fear of God into you all....I personally, rarely, if ever watch the man...Not that I don't lilke him, I just don't need him to do my thinking for me...I am well aware of what is going on with our administration, without the theatrics....Do you remember the words we have nothing to fear but fear itself ?? Below is an article I recently read....And especially the last couple of paragraphs may help you relax a bit...

http://www.conservativemonitor.com/opinion/2002027.shtml

Hi,

While I appreciate your pep talk, I must admit I see things a bit differently.  While Beck is indeed vocal and a showman, he is normally right on and makes most of his points by having the person he is discussing on tape expousing his views or quoting things the person wrote. 

None of us want to live our life paralyzed with fear,  God how awful it must have been for successful Cubans right after Castro took over.  One can only imagine risking your life in a little boat to get off that island.....just how bad it must have been.

The reason I started the thread was I fear for our country.  I am just about 70, I have lived my life and have children and grandchildren who I am concerned about.  I agree with Deb, there is another shoe going to drop and we better damn sure be ready for it. 

Today my wife and I were loading ammunition in the garage and a neighbor who lives way down on the other end of the street came by walking his dog.  One thing led to another and he told us he has several weapons and several thousand round of ammunition.  A couple policemen here in town told him that if we ever get to a real civil uprising we live in a nice gated country club area and likely the looters etc. wll head in our direction and we better be able to protect ourselves.  Well let's hope it does not come to that but I can tell you there are four of us on our street that are well prepared if it happens.  Unlike what happened in Katrina, my guess is the situation would be very different in a lot of places in America. 

When I was younger I was worried about saving money for retirement and I was working 60-80 hours a week, ignoring my health, teling folks I felt like I was racing to beat the heart attack.  Now I feel that we are all trying to hold on until November because that is when we can truly do something about the situation.  No, I do not feel secure about our freedom in America; but I do feel good about taking an active role in getting things straightened out and getting a corrupt communist government the hell out of there.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 08:28:51 AM »
Never at anytime did I disagree with you on the fear that is spreading in the USA....AND never did I say that Glenn Beck was wrong, I merely said he is a showman and he is, but that doesn't mean what he says isn't true....I for one just refuse to let fear run my soon to be 74 yrs of life into the ground...Yes I too fear for my 2 children, 4 grandchildren and soon to be 4th great grandchild....And I would stand up and fight for my rights like anyone else....I will do what is necessary to survive this corrupt and disgusting govt. that has been elected in to our great land...And if a pep talk offends you, I won't apologize...because while I may see things as dire as you do, I also see hope and positivity in it all because the people of this great land are banding together like never before in my lifetime...If you want to live in gloom and doom, be my guest, I see things a little differently than you do as well...I choose to live with hope.....

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2010, 08:45:29 AM »
Never at anytime did I disagree with you on the fear that is spreading in the USA....AND never did I say that Glenn Beck was wrong, I merely said he is a showman and he is, but that doesn't mean what he says isn't true....I for one just refuse to let fear run my soon to be 74 yrs of life into the ground...Yes I too fear for my 2 children, 4 grandchildren and soon to be 4th great grandchild....And I would stand up and fight for my rights like anyone else....I will do what is necessary to survive this corrupt and disgusting govt. that has been elected in to our great land...And if a pep talk offends you, I won't apologize...because while I may see things as dire as you do, I also see hope and positivity in it all because the people of this great land are banding together like never before in my lifetime...If you want to live in gloom and doom, be my guest, I see things a little differently than you do as well...I choose to live with hope.....

Have a great day...

HI,

I think we both wish to be understood and not misunderstood.  I was not in the least bit offended and appreciated what you were trying to do.  I have followed Glenn Beck since he was in Tampa in 2000 and am an ardent supporter and have seen him grow from a local guy to the big time.

My guess is we are both on the same page, no offense taken and no apology is necessary, nor was it expected.  There are days I say to my wife let's just not turn on Fox news today, I want to relax for a change and that is what we do.  A steady diet of drum beats is probably not too healthy, there are times you must think of other things and relax.

I see a lot of fear in my children.  My son in law who is in his mid 50's lost his job, started his own company and now works at JC Penney and drives a school bus.  My daughter works three jobs.....and their kids are grown.  My youngest son has worked for a major US company for 25 years, is currently $2 million over his profit budget so he is doing well.  He called the other day and asked, "Dad, if something happened where I lost my job, if we had no other choice could we live in your summer home until I found another one?"  Five years ago we would have never dreamed of such things. 

As you well know, our peers will almost to a person tell us that this is the first time in their life they truly fear our government.  Do not like those feelings one bit.  Good news is I truly believe the government really does underestmate the power and intelligence of the American people.  The day of reckoning is coming for them, can't get here soon enough.

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Re: Anyone else feel this way??
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2010, 06:33:19 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 08:46:07 AM »

You have put it differently than I been thinking, but your description is much more apt....amd I feel pretty much the same way.

I don't think I have ever felt more unsettled with what is happening in our country than I have since Obama won the election.

Even as a child during air-raid drills or when the Kennedys and MLK were shot. Even during Vietnam when guys I knew were going over there, or girls as nurses being sent somewhere to take care of the wounded soldiers.

Even worse than that horrible day as I watched an airplane fly into a building and realize that life in my country was going to change.

I not only fear what Obama is doing to our country.....I fear that someone will murder him....and the ensuing chaos that would happen.

I fele afraid in ways that I have never felt, or had reason to feel, afraid before.

I don't like feeling this way....



I also worry about that and it won't be anyone on the right who murders him either. One of the leftists sick of waiting for their free pony may do so. In general the thought of any president being murdered is bad for the country but, the chaos that will follow will make it 10 times worse.

 I even worry about what may happen in 2012 if he loses will some people resort to violence because a black man lost re election?
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 10:22:07 AM »
I also worry about that and it won't be anyone on the right who murders him either. One of the leftists sick of waiting for their free pony may do so. In general the thought of any president being murdered is bad for the country but, the chaos that will follow will make it 10 times worse.

 I even worry about what may happen in 2012 if he loses will some people resort to violence because a black man lost re election?


It worries me that TSWHTF in 2013.  Leftists might say, "We were voted out--let's get our revenge."  And they will go absolutely batshit, including attempting to assassinate the President, whoever it is (a Republican).  If said attempt is successful, Rwanda of 1994 will look like a coffee klatch compared to what will happen.  That is what worries me.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 11:43:55 AM »
Since this thread seems to be confined to the political thoughts of some of our more "mature" members, I'll toss my two cents worth in.......

First, I've been around since FDR's last term, and have seen presidents, good and bad, come and go.......I've lived through wars and recessions, oil embargoes and market crashes, and have arrived at a somewhat different place than some of you have.

Although many of the concerns that you raise are valid, if you study the history of our Republic, we've managed to muddle through much worse.......Americans are a unique people, and the founders created a governmental framework that has survived many trials worse than Obama, and the current crop of quasi socialists in Washington.  If we look at the past century alone, we've managed to get through two complete economic depressions, and two global wars........both of these sets of events impacted our citizens to a far greater degree than current events are.......so lets put things in perspective.........

Lets select just two liberal zealots, FDR, and LBJ.......both had Obama's vision of a "socialist" America, to one degree or another, both had visions of an all-encoumpassing welfare state that provided cradle to grave entitlements for "people" (people being defined as those that could be convinced that government benefits could ensure their reliable political support in the future)......and to a very small extent they succeeded (in some cases temporarily) in moving the ball in the direction of a welfare state.........

FDR attempted much "social engineering", but in the grand scheme of things actually accomplished little, except making the overall economy worse......his only achievement that persists is Social Security, and its present condition cannot, in any rational manner be blamed on him, as very little of the original program survives.

LBJ's "Great Society" essentially died with welfare reform during Clinton's administration, and the only lasting result of this program is the complete collapse of the black family structure in America, and my evaluation of that is, if they are too collectively stupid to figure this out, they own it.......its not my problem.......it doesn't have anything to do with skin color, and everything to do with collective intellectual capacity......as MLK so aptly stated (paraphrased) I am not judging them by the color of their skin, just the content of their character.

So where does that leave us?  We are in an economic downturn, like many that we have experienced before......we have a government that sees this as the first real opportunity that they have had in forty years to move the ball incrementally forward toward a "welfare state"......and they are taking their best shot......its happened before, and I'm certain that it will happen again.  The American people have a collective political memory of about a year, and after that, they will forget the sins of the past, and allow the same old crap to be foisted on them again, by the same old zealots......its part of the political cycle.....

What action do I recommend?  First, stop listening to clowns like Glenn Beck......or if you do, stop taking him seriously.......Beck is an "entertainer"......he has never held political office, never run a substantial business (except for his radio/TV shows), and has absolutely no economic credentials for much of the doom that he shovels.  I've listened/watched him a few times, and found that much of his economic predictions are simply wrong, or baseless, and founded on little but his "emotions", but people eat it up, because he sits (at least partially) on our side of the political aisle.......wise up people.......Beck is the "Barack Obama" of the right, a charismatic clown with little depth, and a blackboard.......give me a break!  You will sleep better at night......

Am I suggesting that you not prepare for the worst......no, never......always be prepared, but sitting around spouting doomsday predictions does little good......spend your lives enjoying the blessings of the years that you have......not worrying about the years that you will not have.  I have grandchildren as well, and although I'm concerned about their future.....its their future.....not mine, and they will be tasked with managing what comes, just like we did.......never forgetting that OUR grandparents elected the likes of FDR (four times).......I wonder if they were thinking about us when they cast their ballots.........

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Re: Anyone else feel this way??
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2010, 12:03:01 PM »
Am I suggesting that you not prepare for the worst......no, never......always be prepared, but sitting around spouting doomsday predictions does little good......spend your lives enjoying the blessings of the years that you have......not worrying about the years that you will not have.  I have grandchildren as well, and although I'm concerned about their future.....its their future.....not mine, and they will be tasked with managing what comes, just like we did.......never forgetting that OUR grandparents elected the likes of FDR (four times).......I wonder if they were thinking about us when they cast their ballots.........

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Doc....I'm not worried about my grandchildren's future as far as the country's debt is concerned. Or their education.

I'm worried about my economic future. I have been a Realtor for 13 years. Not only has the market never been in it's current condition in those years...but other agents that I work with that were agents when Carter was president...have not seen it like this!

Is that a "doomsday" situation for the country? No....

but it may be for my checking account! :(

And that tends to influence how I am looking at everything right now.

I also due reports daily, on homes that are going into foreclosure or up for short sale. I am constantly reviewing the housing market in my county on a daily basis. I sell foreclosures. I resell them when they have been rehabbed.

It is not a question of dwelling on the "bad" stuff....it just that what I do for a living...keeps me focused on the bad stuff.

It's wearing me down.
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2010, 04:58:00 PM »
Since this thread seems to be confined to the political thoughts of some of our more "mature" members, I'll toss my two cents worth in.......

First, I've been around since FDR's last term, and have seen presidents, good and bad, come and go.......I've lived through wars and recessions, oil embargoes and market crashes, and have arrived at a somewhat different place than some of you have.

Although many of the concerns that you raise are valid, if you study the history of our Republic, we've managed to muddle through much worse.......Americans are a unique people, and the founders created a governmental framework that has survived many trials worse than Obama, and the current crop of quasi socialists in Washington.  If we look at the past century alone, we've managed to get through two complete economic depressions, and two global wars........both of these sets of events impacted our citizens to a far greater degree than current events are.......so lets put things in perspective.........

Lets select just two liberal zealots, FDR, and LBJ.......both had Obama's vision of a "socialist" America, to one degree or another, both had visions of an all-encoumpassing welfare state that provided cradle to grave entitlements for "people" (people being defined as those that could be convinced that government benefits could ensure their reliable political support in the future)......and to a very small extent they succeeded (in some cases temporarily) in moving the ball in the direction of a welfare state.........

FDR attempted much "social engineering", but in the grand scheme of things actually accomplished little, except making the overall economy worse......his only achievement that persists is Social Security, and its present condition cannot, in any rational manner be blamed on him, as very little of the original program survives.

LBJ's "Great Society" essentially died with welfare reform during Clinton's administration, and the only lasting result of this program is the complete collapse of the black family structure in America, and my evaluation of that is, if they are too collectively stupid to figure this out, they own it.......its not my problem.......it doesn't have anything to do with skin color, and everything to do with collective intellectual capacity......as MLK so aptly stated (paraphrased) I am not judging them by the color of their skin, just the content of their character.

So where does that leave us?  We are in an economic downturn, like many that we have experienced before......we have a government that sees this as the first real opportunity that they have had in forty years to move the ball incrementally forward toward a "welfare state"......and they are taking their best shot......its happened before, and I'm certain that it will happen again.  The American people have a collective political memory of about a year, and after that, they will forget the sins of the past, and allow the same old crap to be foisted on them again, by the same old zealots......its part of the political cycle.....

What action do I recommend?  First, stop listening to clowns like Glenn Beck......or if you do, stop taking him seriously.......Beck is an "entertainer"......he has never held political office, never run a substantial business (except for his radio/TV shows), and has absolutely no economic credentials for much of the doom that he shovels.  I've listened/watched him a few times, and found that much of his economic predictions are simply wrong, or baseless, and founded on little but his "emotions", but people eat it up, because he sits (at least partially) on our side of the political aisle.......wise up people.......Beck is the "Barack Obama" of the right, a charismatic clown with little depth, and a blackboard.......give me a break!  You will sleep better at night......

Am I suggesting that you not prepare for the worst......no, never......always be prepared, but sitting around spouting doomsday predictions does little good......spend your lives enjoying the blessings of the years that you have......not worrying about the years that you will not have.  I have grandchildren as well, and although I'm concerned about their future.....its their future.....not mine, and they will be tasked with managing what comes, just like we did.......never forgetting that OUR grandparents elected the likes of FDR (four times).......I wonder if they were thinking about us when they cast their ballots.........

doc


I am not big in to the doom and gloom but, I do recognize the damage that the left and the Obama administration is doing to our country. If health care gets passed it's here to stay because it is next to impossible to repeal any "entitlement" legislation. The answer from these guys is more spending for every crisis under the sun. Hell Obama is even now wanting to hand out free DSL at taxpayer expense. I do not believe I am overreacting if I say if we don't manage to stop this now we will not recognize our country in 5 years.

I do feel that Beck goes way overboard. Franky he is starting to annoy me because he won't even give props when the GOP does the right thing he continually blasts them and calls them progressives. At least Rush and Hannity are fair to the GOP blasting them when wrong praising them when right. Beck is pretty much a ronbot if you ask me.  :-)
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2010, 05:08:22 PM »
LBJ's "Great Society" essentially died with welfare reform during Clinton's administration.

I hate to bring this up, but the welfare reforms put in place after 1994 were repealed by Obama's "stimulus" package.  And I agree about Glenn Beck.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2010, 05:55:20 PM »
I hate to bring this up, but the welfare reforms put in place after 1994 were repealed by Obama's "stimulus" package.  And I agree about Glenn Beck.

True to an extent, however the most important reform of welfare......the lifetime time limit, stayed intact.  Although the leaches get a small break, the "generational welfare" concept is still gone.......they just don't have to work under "workfare" like they used to.

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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 05:28:43 PM »
I too am no youngster. I too think this is the scariest, most disasterous, most depressing time in my memory. I DON'T THINK Obama will be killed. We will dispose of him next November. And the mid-terms will take away most of his power to do any more damage to our wonderful country. But I'm afraid to exhale.

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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2010, 05:38:43 PM »
I too am no youngster. I too think this is the scariest, most disasterous, most depressing time in my memory. I DON'T THINK Obama will be killed. We will dispose of him next November. And the mid-terms will take away most of his power to do any more damage to our wonderful country. But I'm afraid to exhale.

I too am afraid to exhale. 

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2010, 12:57:00 AM »
I too am no youngster. I too think this is the scariest, most disasterous, most depressing time in my memory. I DON'T THINK Obama will be killed. We will dispose of him next November. And the mid-terms will take away most of his power to do any more damage to our wonderful country. But I'm afraid to exhale.

Hi Daisy,

While I do appreciate the other members of the board trying to temper my remarks with historical perspective, there is one major difference.  For the most part the budget was balanced until the war years.  Even when LBJ passed the great society, we had defecit spending but not nearly what we have today.  Even the latter Bush years with his stupid drug bill look tame by comparison to what we have now.

Today we are in debt to the point of no return.  That has not happened before.  We have a president and democrat congress who blatently lie to the public and do not care.  They are supported by a compliant media who knows it and perpuates the process. 

We have a democrat congress that is bought off by trial lawyers and others, common knowledge, but no one seems to care.  We have an administration hell-bent on turning our country into a socialist, if not communist society using any means possible.  As Sol Alinsky wrote, the end justifies the means and they seem to be proponents of that philosophy.

Americans who were adults during the Roosevelt and Eisenhower age would be appaled at the role of government today.  Each generation progresses more down the track of socialism than ever before.

While a lot of folks do not like Beck, he is sounding the alarm that we are getting way too close to an irreversible point where our government can easily take over and our freedoms will be lost.  If he has to scream, hollar and carry on to get people's attention, so be it.

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2010, 07:16:10 PM »
Hi 5412.  Cannot disagree with anything you said. In addition, since Socialists (read communists.) hate Israel, so does the Obama administration.
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