The best jobs bill is single payer

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7609256

ashling (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-30-10 06:45 PM
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The best jobs bill is single payer
   
take the health insurance burden off the back of small business

Still boring as heck on the island but this was interesting for one reason.

daleanime  (621 posts)          Sat Jan-30-10 06:49 PM
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1. You know it...
   plus all the new jobs that would open up in the health care field

Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts)          Sat Jan-30-10 06:52 PM
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3. K&R...American industry needs Single Payer as much as American citizens do.

Chemical Bill  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-30-10 07:15 PM
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10. It takes the health insurance burden off of GM too. n/t

Jakes Progress (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-30-10 09:46 PM
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17. Not just small business, but those guys or girls
   Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 09:47 PM by Jakes Progress
who want to start a business or work for themselves. I know a half dozen guys who would start their own business, from consulting to blacksmith to art store, if they had insurance coverage for their family. They are willing to do the work. They are willing to risk short pay. They just can't bring themselves to risk their kids health.

All the hypocritical republicans who say they love entrepreneurship are stifling that drive when they prate against single payer.

Real useful stuff there. 

ashling (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-30-10 11:49 PM
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20. I include those in small business
   either ones that are struggling or can't even get up and running because of the roadblocks such as health care for their prospective employees

PufPuf23  (898 posts)          Sun Jan-31-10 03:38 AM
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22. Excellent point!   
   Takes burden off large business and the less fortunate as well and disconnects health care availability from employment.

Also makes a more level playing field for "Fair" Trade under our "Free" Trade programs.

Single payer public health care is just so much more efficient and kinder than the mess of for profit medical insurance (with all the wrong incentitives).

That imo is what it all really is about to them.

njlib  (467 posts)       Sun Jan-31-10 11:00 AM
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29. Absolutely!
   At my last job, the premiums for 17 employees came to about $150K/year! That's a nice chunk of change that could be put back into the business for raises/bonuses, new hires, or equipment upgrades. It would make a world of difference for all business!

The thing I found interesting is that not once did someone mention that all this comes at a cost and these businesses will be taxed heavily to pay for their dreams.
They really do think it just falls out of the sky for their benefit.

[Specbid]

ashling (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-30-10 06:45 PM
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The best jobs bill is single payer
  
take the health insurance burden off the back of small business

Any burden on small business is self-imposed. I do not have to supply healthcare to my employees. I do it as a benefit to get and keep the best people I can get.

Next...

[Specbid]

daleanime  (621 posts)          Sat Jan-30-10 06:49 PM
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1. You know it...
   plus all the new jobs that would open up in the health care field

Yeah, in gov't bureaucracy. Just what we need...oh yeah, who pays them?

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[Specbid]

Chemical Bill  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-30-10 07:15 PM
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10. It takes the health insurance burden off of GM too. n/t

Tell that to the UAW...

[Specbid]

from consulting to blacksmith to art store

 

[Specbid]

ashling (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-30-10 11:49 PM
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20. I include those in small business
   either ones that are struggling or can't even get up and running because of the roadblocks such as health care for their prospective employees

Once again, who says you have to do this?

[The Village Idiot]

I posted about healthcare deform in the BLOGS section.

Basically that the Democrats over reached. They could have passed a bill easily.

[Specbid]

njlib  (467 posts)       Sun Jan-31-10 11:00 AM
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29. Absolutely!
   At my last job, the premiums for 17 employees came to about $150K/year! That's a nice chunk of change that could be put back into the business for raises/bonuses, new hires, or equipment upgrades. It would make a world of difference for all business!

No, that's 150k more they'll get taxed for, plus the tax increases congress wants, plus they now certainly make more than 85k and are now rich in the eyes of gov't...more tax increases.

[ScubaGuy]

This is what happens when you spend your adult life living in your parents basement.  Everything should be free. The DUmmies never realize that someone is paying the bills

[The Village Idiot]

This is what happens when you spend your adult life living in your parents basement.  Everything should be free. The DUmmies never realize that someone is paying the bills

Its sad when people have such little clue.

[jukin]

Any burden on small business is self-imposed. I do not have to supply healthcare to my employees. I do it as a benefit to get and keep the best people I can get.

Next...

BINGO!

These people have no idea what a job is much less making jobs.