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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2010, 06:44:47 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 31, 2010, 07:35:36 AM
Less than one might think, provided you don't shove a whole bunch of food, grease, etc, into the tank.

A $20 bottle of Rid-X gives me six doses of tank treatment (once a month).  Around here, they charge about $250 or so to pump it down, a little more if they have to dig up the lids.  My biggest expense is salt for the softener and filters--and even that is less than $10/month.

I've lived in the house for 3 years, and no sign of having to pump it down.  Like I said, if you are good to it, it's good to you--I've seen folks who pump theirs down every 3-4 years, and people who haven't had to after living in their home for 10 years.


$250-300 is what they charge here too....depending on if the lids have to be dug up....


The guys that do this must make a lot of money... :bow:
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2010, 07:19:32 PM »
Quote from: debk on January 31, 2010, 06:44:47 PM

$250-300 is what they charge here too....depending on if the lids have to be dug up....


The guys that do this must make a lot of money... :bow:

Yeah, but it's a shitty job. :evillaugh:
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2010, 01:12:28 AM »
Quote from: crockspot on January 31, 2010, 07:19:32 PM
Yeah, but it's a shitty job. :evillaugh:

That's what it takes to be #1 in the #2 business....   :rotf:
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2010, 07:17:45 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on February 01, 2010, 01:12:28 AM
That's what it takes to be #1 in the #2 business....   :rotf:

remember that septic tank cleaner from the RED GREEN SHOW??
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2010, 07:26:14 AM »
Quote from: FGL on February 01, 2010, 07:17:45 AM
remember that septic tank cleaner from the RED GREEN SHOW??

I've seen the show, but I don't recall that episode....

Them damned Canadians is some weird folk, eh....
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2010, 07:42:00 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on February 01, 2010, 07:26:14 AM
I've seen the show, but I don't recall that episode....

Them damned Canadians is some weird folk, eh....

The skinny dude with a hardhat. Sometimes they had a faux commercial for his sewer sucking service.
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2010, 11:16:02 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on February 01, 2010, 07:26:14 AM
I've seen the show, but I don't recall that episode....

Them damned Canadians is some weird folk, eh....
I had entirely forgotten Red Green. What a great, weird show. I just checked, and about a half dozen full seasons are available from Netflix. Red Green and SCTV were the two best things ever to come out of Canada. As imports, I still think they were both better than Monte Python.
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2010, 02:01:08 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 01, 2010, 11:16:02 AM
I had entirely forgotten Red Green. What a great, weird show. I just checked, and about a half dozen full seasons are available from Netflix. Red Green and SCTV were the two best things ever to come out of Canada. As imports, I still think they were both better than Monte Python.

Its also apparently on Youtube and stuff. heh.
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2010, 02:19:54 PM »
I still watch Red Green every Saturday night on PBS. Funny as hell! The last one was about the Forest Ranger getting lost!

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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2010, 03:07:09 PM »
I've never even heard of the Red Green show.  Sounds like something I'd like.  Does anyone remember the Honey Dipper Dan song/skit on Mad TV?  That was a good one.

In CT, by law we had to pump every 2 years.  I didn't know where the damn thing was, and had to "handle" this matter with the guy, since my X was working at the time.  Traumatic experience.  The guy sounded exactly like Count Dracula. 

Back to the OP, over at Moonbattery they posted a video of a guy maintaining his humanure facility, I guess you'd call it.  The family shat in the living room or something into 5 gallon buckets, then he carried them out to a truckbed and dumped it along with hay.  Forked it over to mix it up.  Rinsed out the buckets with the tiniest minute amount of water, and he did this all without gloves.  Utterly disgusting.  Generated hundreds of comments and countless views. 
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2010, 03:22:04 PM »
Quote from: Karin on February 01, 2010, 03:07:09 PM


Back to the OP, over at Moonbattery they posted a video of a guy maintaining his humanure facility, I guess you'd call it.  The family shat in the living room or something into 5 gallon buckets, then he carried them out to a truckbed and dumped it along with hay.  Forked it over to mix it up.  Rinsed out the buckets with the tiniest minute amount of water, and he did this all without gloves.  Utterly disgusting.  Generated hundreds of comments and countless views. 

Hmmm... this guy obviously has a problem with modern advancements. Now, he has a truck, but no indoor plumbing. At least toilet wise. I like my truck, but I love indoor, working toilets. If I have to choose between my truck and toilet, I'll be walking.
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2010, 06:38:18 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 01, 2010, 02:19:54 PM
I still watch Red Green every Saturday night on PBS. Funny as hell! The last one was about the Forest Ranger getting lost!

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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2010, 06:48:45 PM »
It amazes me that this is legal.  My 'other' job is managing our small water/waste water system for our subdivision.  We have to have the sludge pumped out of our waste water tank about 2 times a year.  Before it can be pumped we have to have it tested for all KINDS of stuff, including heavy metals.  It makes a difference because our sludge goes to land application where it has to sit for a long time before anything can be done with it but the testing we have to do is muy expensive and it involves a lot of filing with the state.

This is for a system that serves around 435 homes.

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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2010, 07:44:28 PM »
Holy crap, I can't believe this thread is still goin' on. I went out to the new house today to check on the progress of the septic guys...and they're done. I have a whole new leech field...and a completely torn up side yard, but apparently I'm good for a couple of...well maybe more than a couple of years.

It seems more environmentally friendly than the humanure system, and far less...um...crappy than the sawdust bucket advocates.

Oh, and I asked the real estate guy about the humanure deal. It isn't legal, but I can't see how anyone would know you were doing it around here. Lot's of horses and other livestock out here....But then again, my neighbors don't strike me as the type of people who would be into that. Too many Don't tread on me and Marine Corps flags in my neck of the woods.
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2010, 01:08:31 AM »
Quote from: Aaron Burr on February 01, 2010, 07:44:28 PM
Holy crap, I can't believe this thread is still goin' on. I went out to the new house today to check on the progress of the septic guys...and they're done. I have a whole new leech field...and a completely torn up side yard, but apparently I'm good for a couple of...well maybe more than a couple of years.

It seems more environmentally friendly than the humanure system, and far less...um...crappy than the sawdust bucket advocates.

Oh, and I asked the real estate guy about the humanure deal. It isn't legal, but I can't see how anyone would know you were doing it around here. Lot's of horses and other livestock out here....But then again, my neighbors don't strike me as the type of people who would be into that. Too many Don't tread on me and Marine Corps flags in my neck of the woods.

When we had our dairy farm, a friend of ours had a septic tank service. 

We had a 325,000 gallon holding tank for the cow manure that came from the barns and feelot that we would pump out 2 times a year and apply on our crop land.  We would let him "dump a load" into our system every now and then in exchange for a free pumpout or backhoe rental....

He couldn't do it too often, because of the EPA and state regs, but it saved him a 90 miles round trip to unload at an "approved" site....

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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2010, 07:49:35 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on February 02, 2010, 01:08:31 AM

He couldn't do it too often, because of the EPA and state regs, but it saved him a 90 miles round trip to unload at an "approved" site....

was that 'cheating'? hrh
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2010, 10:02:15 AM »
Quote from: Thor on January 30, 2010, 01:23:06 PM
I guess that they're clueless as to WHY the most recent outbreaks of e-coli happened. It was because of migrant workers taking dumps in the veggie fields. Untreated human waste is rife with bad bacteria. While plant will grow well in human excrement, they will also carry those evil bacteria. IF they found a way to treat it, then it would be OK. Then there's the ground water contamination issue. Powdered lime is a good way to sterilize any fecal matter. They really need to have some sort of background in animal husbandry or farming before they attempt to do absurd things like this.

It's complex, the risk of contamination is from incidental contact of the produce with the contaminated soil (Not just from falling on it, but from dust rising from the soil, rain spattering it upward, handling by contaminated hands, or even from flies or bugs walking on the soil then walking on the fruit) not actually transmission from the root through the plant stalk cells to the fruit.  It would be virtually impossible to do safely with root vegetables or even ground-surface vegetables like cukes or melons.

It's extremely risky in terms of infection, this is a practice that only makes sense in an absolutely desperate attempt to wrest bare subsistence from a small and marginal plot of land.  Still it is actually a lot less risky for the growers to eat the fruit than anyone else, because they were the origin of that particular strain or bacteria in the first place, so even rudimentary hygiene practices would generally protect them; not so for anyone with whom they might share the produce. 
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Re: primitives discuss bypassing septic tanks
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2010, 02:11:19 PM »
Quote from: FGL on February 02, 2010, 07:49:35 AM
was that 'cheating'? hrh

Only if you get caught   :naughty:
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