I knew it was just a matter of time before another "hate-breeders" thread...
Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 07:41 PM
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Duggars “won’t rule out having baby #20 - Why Michelle Duggar can’t say, “We’re done!â€
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 08:21 PM by Shallah Kali
I am posting this here in general chat because the Quiverfull movement is both a political as well as a religious movement.
http://nolongerquivering.com/2010/01/29/people-magazine...
After the partial uterine rupture, it seemed so obvious to everyone that I ought to be done for sure. How many times did I hear: Surely God will let you off the hook now ~ He would want you to protect your health to ensure that you’ll be around to care for the seven already-born children He has blessed you with?
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You see, once a woman’s mind grasps the concept of “trusting the Lord†with her reproductive life ~ absolutely nothing is ever simple or obvious again. The Quiverfull philosophy is an alluring and powerful spell ~ and the woman so enchanted feels the euphoria of the “Big Happy Family,†she is seduced by a vision of chivalrous men and genteel ladies, tempted by the promise of God’s protection and provision, and she knows the sheer ecstasy of inhaling deeply the ambrosial smell of yet another newborn.
So it’s no surprise that despite preeclampsia, gallstones, and a micro-preemie baby, Michelle’s still determined to leave it up to God whether there’ll be a twentieth Duggar baby or not. That she ought to stop now is glaringly obvious to everyone but Michelle and the Quiverfullers who are similarly beguiled. Having been there and done that (got pregnant twice again after the partial uterine rupture), I’m inclined to go easy on the lady. I think Michelle is doing her best to life consistently according to the worldview of her firmly held Christian beliefs.
But I’m not backing off on my efforts here at NLQ to expose the delusion which has Michelle so captivated that she’s continuing to take unneccesary and irresponsible risks. Bill Gothard, whose “biblical family values†have strongly influenced the Duggars, has never been married and has no children. This man, along with other Quiverfull leaders such as Doug Phillips, Doug Wilson, Voddie Baucham, etc. need to be held accountable for the teachings they are calling “biblical†~ teachings that trap women in a mental headspace in which common sense and gut feelings are to be distrusted and ignored.
No Longer Qivering ‹(ô¿ô)›
There is no "you" in Qivering
http://nolongerquivering.com
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Matthew Murry An American Tragedy http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/14/421737/-Matthe...
The Nightmare of Christianity By Max Blumenthal http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090921/blumenthal
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 07:52 PM
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4. I'm sure the father earns a sufficient income to provide for all those children.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 07:53 PM
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6. If not, Welfare Jesus provides
He is Jesus Christ's very youngest brother, and not often talked about. They couldn't cover all 15 of Mary's children in vivid detail.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 08:07 PM
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13. He pimps his kids for a living.
Visualize a father from another racial group profiting from his proliferation.
Ah, the lovely and tolerant things that come from the community that embraces diversity.
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 08:24 PM
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17. I think preeminently, it's about men controlling women and removing any possibility of a woman
existing in her own right as an individual.
This is a husband PROVING he owns the women, completely.
Because all "normal" women normally choose to murder their kids unborn, of course.
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 08:03 PM
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10. Says it all right here:
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 08:21 PM by wickerwoman
"The Duggars said they prayed for Michelle’s blood pressure to come down, but when that didn’t happen, they agreed to the surgery."
God wants you to have 19 kids, but then gives you preeclampsia, presumably because he has marked you for death and decided that your 19 children should be motherless. But then when the praying for your life doesn't work (because it's thwarting God's will), it's OK for the doctors, whose medical education you have reviled and sought to undermine, to do a c-section.
So tired of fundies of convenience in our society. If you don't want to accept evolution, you don't get to benefit from all the things that resulted from it (like anti-biotics, GM food, animals or plants that have been selected for desirable characteristics...)
:crazy:
Duggars undermine doctors by having kids?? OK...
If fundies get to to without all the things that result from evolution, so we also get to do without all those that cling to the belief while still insisting that the next step is all the fault of humans?
Walk away Donating Member (903 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 09:11 PM
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23. I bet they all love their guns too. What good is a Fundie Army if it's not armed?
It's not difficult to see where this is going. They are too stupid and backward to compete against normal people. Christian / No Science home schooling and no higher education for half of your population leaves brute force and numbers as your way to the top.
Bibles, guns and babies!
Yeah, it's terrible when those fundies actually refuse to let the public schools brainwash their kids into the government-established religions. Especially when you realize that the education that comes with the government religion is so pathetic. Fundies would scare me, too...if I weren't one.
Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-29-10 09:32 PM
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28. Jesus, she's a puppy mill!!
I really think that they're ought to be some tax on people who choose to have more than 3 children. Tax them for the extra natural resources they use and the extra strain they put on the earth and the environment. And this tax should be a graduated increase for each child over 3. Her body, her choice of course, but they should have to pay for the extra strain on resources used.
The liberal dream, in a nutshell...we can make everyone just like us simply by taking away all their money and keeping if for ourselves!! Of course, you have to attain a maturity level somewhere past toddlerhood to understand why other people don't do everything you want...
