Well....having lived in a VERY Muslim country (Saudi Arabia), and travelled in half a dozen others, I can say unequivocally that vestanumbers is full of crap.........
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This is how it works DOC, for all my life I have admired the Israelis that had the ground breaking idea of making ALL their citizens responsible for the country's well fare.
How can I put this so others will understand.
As I look back on history our Nation could not have thrived had it not been for the amazing woman that with a child at her breast reloading husbands arms to fight of Indians, the French, the British, horse thieves and cattle rustlers.
In the city's of the East coast in the 1800's woman had no rights per say, but out on the plains of the West a woman in a teepee joined in the council meetings of her tribe.
I read an interesting book as a child, a history of what became of the children of the settlers that had been kidnapped by the Indians. A couple of tribes had as leaders the White Male Children that became most feared.
Some family's paid huge fees to get the return of female children, brought them back after 3-6 years to Boston or NY and were stunned when the girls left them to go back to their very kidnappers and way of life. They had freedom and a say in their life with the tribe that they could not have in Polite society of the time.
When I became aware that at least 3-4 woman had disguised themselves as men to fight in Civil War, and did so fearlessly and honor, as a female child I began to wonder about gender and why I could not join the armed forces except as a Nurse, or office personal.
To this day DOC, I am still amazed how far our society has gone when I see a female Cop, got to remember there was no such thing as I grew up. Come to think about it, Navy Housing was segregated, first Black Chief I ever saw I was about 10. The sailors that were Filipino seldom got above E-5 they served in the mess or laundry room.
It takes years for a society today or yesterday to get use to ground breaking traditions, I remember all too well the shock when the Navy began to place woman on the ships at sea, began to train them to fly jets, helicopters and work in a motor pool.
Then the first woman astronauts and the first woman Supreme Court Judge.
Little Miss Doctor Ruth, all of 4 feet tall could take apart a machine gun blind folded and put it back together at the age of what, 15.
She and her country expected everyone to be ready to fight for their country, the woman knew full well that if captured in battle what the price was for them to pay, Rape mutilation and because of this they fought to the death. They were fearless as a quick death was preferable to being taken captive.
Other then that, I see that the Muslims are changing as somehow they are recruiting woman to do their dirty work. Somehow they are getting their woman to strap on bombs and blow people up. This may well backfire on them as time will tell.
The woman taken hostage that was felt up and raped knew this could happen as do the males know who go into battle. She KNEW she could have bones broken, as did her male companion, She went into battle knowing the repercussions of being captured . She made the choice to face the same thing men face in war.
It is kind of hard for me to listen to a woman woman who underwent all this hell complain about her treatment when men have lost limbs, been casterated, and come home half brain dead.
Back to the Fatwas and getting raped, well from what I see in the middle east the laws were put in place by men to insure the family line. Great steps were taken to insure the woman was protected as one would do to protect a prised Cow. No bull but the best could get near her.
Extreme measures were taken, first make her invisible to other men, train her from birth to be submissive to their father and then husband. Never allow her to go unescorted out side the home for any reason. Some society's went to the length of mutilating young girls so they would not run away from their husbands.
Laws on stoning woman as an example to other woman was popular, the woman had to stay invisible to other men.
This is where they messed up, this is why they remain in the Iron age, this is why they are so very dangerous to their own people.
I would love to see America take a chance, go the way the Israelis have and put all people at the age of 15 into a national guard. Teach them that this land is their land and how to defend it. Give them pride in their land.
BTW My mom visited Israel about 10 years ago and came home to tell us of what she had seen. Little kids as she said walking down the street with machine guns at their side. There was no unsafe area after dark, no gangs or thieves, no gun fire anywhere and everyone felt safe and relaxed.
She said this was a society armed to the teeth against enemy at its borders, yet she felt safe and protected. When she came home landing in Boston, she could not wait to get home to lock her doors and windows.
