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White House nightmare persists
« on: January 24, 2010, 04:52:45 AM »
White House nightmare persists
By Edward Luce

Published: January 22 2010 19:21 | Last updated: January 22 2010 19:21

At the end of Barack Obama’s worst week since taking power a year ago, the US president’s fortunes look set only to deteriorate over the coming days. Following the shock defeat of the Democratic candidate in Massachusetts on Tuesday, a move that deprived the president of his 60-seat super-majority in the Senate and left his legislative agenda in tatters, Mr Obama has just four days to reboot the system.

The US president had originally delayed next week’s State of the Union address to Congress in the hope he would get his signature healthcare reform bill enacted in time. That prospect, already waning, was killed dead by the voters in Massachusetts. A growing number of Democrats believe the nine-month effort could collapse altogether.
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“Nor can Mr Obama rely on unity within his own party, which has been in disarray, if not panic, since Tuesday. For example, Mr Obama’s more populist tack on Wall Street re-regulation failed to attract endorsement from Chris Dodd, chairman of the Senate banking committee, even though he was present when Mr Obama made the announcement.

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In short, Mr Obama’s nightmare January could easily slip into a nightmare February. “Unless and until the president changes the way his White House, works, things are going to continue to go badly for him,” says the head of a Democratic think-tank. “Heads still have to roll.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/821dce96-0786-11df-915f-00144feabdc0.html


It only took him a year to implode.   The rookie mistakes have culminated into the collapse of his party.  This is so much more than "the majority always loses seats in the mid-term elections",  this is epic failure that going forward we will bookmark as supporting evidence to lay claim he is the worst U.S. president in our nation's history.

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Re: White House nightmare persists
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 06:16:21 AM »
The reality of a Barack Obama isn't just a shame.  It's a damn shame. 

Having "everything black" gauged by this silly ridiculous man is an injustice and insult to all black Americans.  How long will it be now before anyone takes a serious look at an actual qualified black candidate for high office?  It will be a while.

And this Obama clown isn't even "black". 

Maybe Obama was the plan all along.  The plan of the deeply racist and hate-filled socialist American left. 

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 08:18:00 AM »
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It only took him a year to implode.

The magnitude and swiftness of the implosion is a surprise, to me anyway. I expected it to be slower and thereby less drastic.

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Having "everything black" gauged by this silly ridiculous man is an injustice and insult to all black Americans.

Let me preface my comment by stating that I voted for Ambassador Keyes in the 1996 and 2000 R Presidential primaries. My criteria were his stances and experience. In Obama, many Americans fooled themselves into voting a bright, shiny empty-suit symbol into a position that would challenge the most substantial.
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Re: White House nightmare persists
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 08:54:54 AM »
The magnitude a swiftness of the implosion is a surprise, to me anyway. I expected it to be slower and thereby less drastic.

Let me preface my comment by stating that I voted for Ambassador Keyes in the 1996 and 2000 R Presidential primaries. My criteria were his stances and experience. In Obama, many Americans fooled themselves into voting a bright, shiny empty-suit symbol into a position that would challenge the most substantial.

I voted for Keyes in 1996.  I was not so keen on Keyes by 2000.  I would vote for him today, though. 

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 09:21:49 AM »
Keyes made comments some time after the 2000 election that seemed to express support for affirmative action and/or "reparations". In my books, "affirmative action" is a euphemism meaning "racist quotas". And "reparations are absurd for at least six reasons: 1.) Slavery ended nearly a century and a half ago, so those actually damaged by it are long dead; 2.) A substantial number of blacks in the US came here (or their ancestors did) after slavery ended; 3.) A substantial number (probably a majority) of whites in the US came here (or their ancestors did) after slavery ended (that includes 3/4 of my ancestors); 4.) The ancestors of a substantial number of whites in the US fought in the Civil War for purposes that included ending slavery; 5.) Many whites whose ancestors lived in the South when slavery existed did not own slaves, opposed slavery and, if they fought for the South in the Civil War, did so for reasons other than preserving slavery; 6.) Not all slave owners were white - some were black or Native Americans.

I do find a couple of things sad. I find it sad that, of the three significant D black candidates for the Presidency - Jesse, Al and Obama - two are huckstering frauds and the third an empty suit. I find it sad that many/most Ds are unaware the there has been a significant R black candidate for the Presidency - and if you so informed them, many would all but call you a liar.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2010, 09:25:42 AM »
Keyes made comments some time after the 2000 election that seemed to express support for affirmative action and/or "reparations". In my books, "affirmative action" is a euphemism meaning "racist quotas". And "reparations are absurd for at least six reasons: 1.) Slavery ended nearly a century and a half ago, so those actually damaged by it are long dead; 2.) A substantial number of blacks in the US came here (or their ancestors did) after slavery ended; 3.) A substantial number (probably a majority) of whites in the US came here (or their ancestors did) after slavery ended (that includes 3/4 of my ancestors); 4.) The ancestors of a substantial number of whites in the US fought in the Civil War for purposes that included ending slavery; 5.) Many whites whose ancestors lived in the South when slavery existed did not own slaves, opposed slavery and, if they fought for the South in the Civil War, did so for reasons other than preserving slavery; 6.) Not all slave owners were white - some were black or Native Americans.

I do find a couple of things sad. I find it sad that, of the three significant D black candidates for the Presidency - Jesse, Al and Obama - two are huckstering frauds and the third an empty suit. I find it sad that many/most Ds are unaware the there has been a significant R black candidate for the Presidency - and if you so informed them, many would all but call you a liar.

There's no "all but" about it - they would call you a liar, and not only that, they'd call you a damned, racist liar.

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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 12:24:12 PM »
The reality of a Barack Obama isn't just a shame.  It's a damn shame. 

Having "everything black" gauged by this silly ridiculous man is an injustice and insult to all black Americans.  How long will it be now before anyone takes a serious look at an actual qualified black candidate for high office?  It will be a while.

And this Obama clown isn't even "black". 

Maybe Obama was the plan all along.  The plan of the deeply racist and hate-filled socialist American left. 

Undies, I don't disagree, but 97% of black Americans will dismiss the bolded comment out of hand, and still consider him to be the "second coming"......which unfortunately, IMO doesn't say a lot about the caliber of the black population......

That said, there are many extremely intelligent, motivated, and educated black Americans that wouldn't touch politics with the proverbial ten foot pole......they are too busy making fortunes in the business world, or if they are motivated to public service, do so in the military, academia, or the  judiciary........only the stupid ones seem to end up in elected office, the Shiela Jackson Lee's of this world, because the smart ones simply don't want to get involved in the politics of "race baiting" that seems necessary to electively serve......Obama states that he wants a "post-racial" America, but he is doing exactly the opposite.

THAT.....is truly the shame of it all.......

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Re: White House nightmare persists
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 12:47:13 PM »
The reality of a Barack Obama isn't just a shame.  It's a damn shame. 

Having "everything black" gauged by this silly ridiculous man is an injustice and insult to all black Americans.  How long will it be now before anyone takes a serious look at an actual qualified black candidate for high office?  It will be a while.

And this Obama clown isn't even "black". 

Maybe Obama was the plan all along.  The plan of the deeply racist and hate-filled socialist American left. 

I know it would be accused of being racist but that is only because the left has picked and chosen what is and isn`t so who cares and here goes...

The black culture of today that supports dems by a 90 % margin has become convinced as dogma that they are oppressed,blameless nor responsible for their lot in life and entitled to a special set of rules.
No matter how many times and for how many decades they have been lied to by democrats they will still follow the "promise" that libs will make it all good for them without any effort on their part.
It is a belief system akin to a religion and I am not sure anything will change it.

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 01:21:59 PM »
I dunno; it seems to me that a lot of intelligent African-Americans are beginning to get real headaches from the cognitive dissonance of the justifiable pride they feel in having the nation's first African-American President in office, and the gut-wrenching sense that he's selling them out to the hard-core liberals so that they and their children will be forced to wander in the deserts of the racial ghettoes for another generation to come.

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2010, 02:02:26 PM »
I dunno; it seems to me that a lot of intelligent African-Americans are beginning to get real headaches from the cognitive dissonance of the justifiable pride they feel in having the nation's first African-American President in office, and the gut-wrenching sense that he's selling them out to the hard-core liberals so that they and their children will be forced to wander in the deserts of the racial ghettoes for another generation to come.

Unfortunately your premise, although logical, is not reflected in political polling......there has been NO significant erosion of Obama's support amongst black Americans.......

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 04:06:30 PM »
Unfortunately your premise, although logical, is not reflected in political polling......there has been NO significant erosion of Obama's support amongst black Americans.......

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When Gingrich became speaker in 1994 he wanted to change the wording on the civil rights amendment regarding descrimination.  Apparently it says you cannot descriminate against....any number of things.  He wanted to change it to you can not descriminate "for or against" and Jesse and frends went apeshit!  If was very clear they never wanted equality, they wanted preferential treatment.  To me BO is nothing more than an extension of that belief.  Racial justice is nothing more than a code word that means steal from those who work their asses off and give it to the blacks because 250 years ago people were mean to them.

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2010, 04:18:02 PM »
Tell me this doesn't look like the ghost of that other far left socialist bastage FDR in the window. And no. It's not photoshopped. You can see it in the origional.

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2010, 04:25:49 PM »
Hey!  It does.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2010, 04:29:42 PM »
Sen John McCain is now signalling that the GOP just wants to start over on healthcare reform

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2010, 05:04:29 PM »
Sen John McCain is now signalling that the GOP just wants to start over on healthcare reform

Somebody needs to pass a note to the senile old RINO coot that he needs to sit down, shut the hell up about anything to do with health care, and 'retire with dignity' when this session of Congress is finally over.  The whole damned country is just about three steps from going to blows over Congress-shits and their ideas on what we want/need in the way of ****ing health care.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2010, 08:39:19 PM »
OK, here's the problem with Obama:
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/04/narcissism-and-society-part-i.html

Add to this his "father figure" in Hawaii was Frank Marshall Davis anf g.dad was a socialist stay at home g.dad while his flower child mom "anthropologist" pranced around the "third world" leaving him abandoned (BHO Sr. having fled back to Kanya after tiring of her ) by both parents. Is there any wonder he'd fugged up?

Not to mention his confessed pot/coke habit,  being badmouthed by Sr.
when he did visit , and making a religion of Saul Alinsky's writings, and his emersion in the most currupt political machine ever, the Chicago Political Mob did not add one whit to anything resembling self esteem or give him a stable moral base.

So he modeled his public persona after H. P. Long  ( condenced info:  http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=54906 )

EVERYONE marveled at his intellegence, and I can't understand why. Am I missing something

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 08:59:42 PM »
The whole "White House Nightmare" thing confuses me. Shouldn't we be considering the nations nightmare that resides in the White House?

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2010, 09:33:59 PM »
EVERYONE marveled at his intellegence, and I can't understand why. Am I missing something

Well.....Albert Einstein couldn't balance his checkbook.........

Intelligence alone does not a president make.......

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2010, 09:37:55 PM »
Well.....Albert Einstein couldn't balance his checkbook.........

Intelligence alone does not a president make.......

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It seems that possibly, above average intelligence makes for a rather poor president, unless it is tempered, by having to struggle through life.

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2010, 09:39:37 PM »
It seems that possibly, above average intelligence makes for a rather poor president, unless it is tempered, by having to struggle through life.

Or to simplify.....common sense.....

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2010, 09:41:06 PM »
It seems that possibly, above average intelligence makes for a rather poor president, unless it is tempered, by having to struggle through life.

Hi,

Intelligence does not mean smart either.  I do not give a damn how intelligent BO is, he is stupid enough to believe communism is good for the masses.....or egotistical to think that he should be king.

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2010, 09:45:32 PM »
Hi,

Intelligence does not mean smart either.  I do not give a damn how intelligent BO is, he is stupid enough to believe communism is good for the masses.....or egotistical to think that he should be king.

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Hey 5412.

 I noticed that Buckyball invaded the the party thread on the Cubs board. I don't know if you have ventured into the Dumpster on this board, but he would fit right in with the liberals on democratic undergound.

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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2010, 06:15:19 AM »
Somebody needs to pass a note to the senile old RINO coot that he needs to sit down, shut the hell up about anything to do with health care, and 'retire with dignity' when this session of Congress is finally over.  The whole damned country is just about three steps from going to blows over Congress-shits and their ideas on what we want/need in the way of ******* health care.

He needs to be put out to pasture. He has done enough harm to the Repub party with his policies on campaign finances, torture, immigration,etc.

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2010, 06:55:05 AM »
Hey 5412.

 I noticed that Buckyball invaded the the party thread on the Cubs board. I don't know if you have ventured into the Dumpster on this board, but he would fit right in with the liberals on democratic undergound.

Hi,

Yes I saw that also.  He will not respond to logic one bit.  Zip also has a blind spot when it comes to politics and I decline to take the bait with him.  Tried to get him facts a year ago and he got so upset he took a year off from the board.  Notice his bait remark about Palin.

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 06:57:59 AM »
He needs to be put out to pasture. He has done enough harm to the Repub party with his policies on campaign finances, torture, immigration,etc.

HI,

Did you see the Beck interview with Palin?  Beck was to the point with her like why the hell are you helping a progressive like McCain?  Her answer was he is an honorable man and I promised him I would help and I keep my promises.  Beck backtracked a bit about him being honorable, but they both agreed McCain was not a conservative.

Personally, I would prefer Palin does not help McCain; particularly after reading her book about all the crap they did to her.  I really do suspect that it was not McCain but some staffer with an inflated sense of power.

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