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Offline thundley4

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Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« on: January 18, 2010, 08:35:27 PM »
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MadHound   (1000+ posts)           Mon Jan-18-10 07:36 PM
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Can you hear us now?
   

By all measures the Coakley campaign should be coasting to an easy victory in tomorrow's election. After all, this is an election to fill Teddy's old seat, in a state that is one of most Democratic in the country. But a funny thing has happened, the left has gotten pissed, and it shows.

Never mind that Coakley is, to put it delicately, something of an inept campaigner, that's not what's killing her chances at this point. What is killing her chances actually has very little to do with her and a lot to do with what is going on nationally.

The left is in full out open revolt against the Democratic party. After giving Obama and the Democrats everything that they wanted the left suddenly found themselves an unwanted guest at the table. Suddenly, despite their hard work the left found that not only were their issues not being addressed, but worse Obama and the Democratic Congress were following a much more conservative path, ranging from snubbing the LGBT community to expanding the war to caving in to corporate interests over the HCR bill.

The anger over these outrages against the left is now culminating in the Massachusetts senatorial election. The left is either looking to stay home, or worse yet, voting for the RW yahoo out of sheer spite. In other words, the left is sending a message, "Pay attention to us, start moving the party back to the left or suffer the consequences."

So the question now is whether or not Obama and the Democratic party are getting the message. Will the party start tacking back to the left, or will they continue to pursue their corporate friendly rightward course? If the party starts tacking back to the left, then they stand a good chance of winning big again in the fall. If not, the left is going to do what they're doing in the Massachusetts election, staying home or voting 'Pug out of sheer spite.

So win or lose tomorrow, the ball is in the court of the Obama and the Democrats. Stop ignoring and spitting on your base or suffer the consequences. It's up to you.
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Seriously?  Are you that frelling stoopid?

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jezebel (1000+ posts)           Mon Jan-18-10 07:40 PM
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1. Bullshit. And boring bullshit at that. nt

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MadHound   (1000+ posts)           Mon Jan-18-10 07:45 PM
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8. Now that's an erudite response
   
You can't deny that MA is heavily blue state. You can't deny that under normal times even a dead Democrat could beat Brown hands down. So what is your excuse for such a bad performance?

No, it can't be the left exercising its muscle, it just can't be 

Good luck winning in the fall with your head stuck in the sand.

The DimRats should write in Dead Ted? 

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jezebel (1000+ posts)           Mon Jan-18-10 07:56 PM
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16. Your quote of "The left is in full out open revolt against the Democratic party" IS total bullshit.
   
The Mass election if lost is NOT going to be lost because the Dem's are in revolt. It will be because the Dems are apathetic and have a crappy candidate. That is balanced against an enraged right wing and indies who whether you want to believe it not are voting for Brown not because he isn't progressive but because he is CONSERVATIVE.
I don't like it but its the truth.

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MadHound   (1000+ posts)           Mon Jan-18-10 08:01 PM
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23. Hmm, what's going on in the country tends to refute your point
   
Hell, what's going on on this board is refuting your point.

Face the fact, the left is pissed. You may not like it, but if you simply stick your head in the sand on this one, you're going to lose badly in the fall.

The simply fact is, there are too many on the left to allow Brown to win as outline. It is simply the left, pissed off and staying at home that is going to turn the tide for Brown.

Hey crazydog, most polls show that Obamacare is not wanted. Massholes have first hand knowledge of the failure of socialized medicine.

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dionysus   (1000+ posts)           Mon Jan-18-10 08:48 PM
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39. uh, every poll out there, which shows obama has very high ratings amongst dems. are you pissed that
   
there aren't enough of you outside of internet message boards to even register in poll results?

hmmm?

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MadHound   (1000+ posts)           Mon Jan-18-10 08:51 PM
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42. Umm, most of us on the left aren't registered Dems
   
That means that we're those dreaded/coveted independents. You want our vote, you've got to earn it, it's that simple.

Right, they've infiltrated the GOP.

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scheming daemons   (1000+ posts)             Mon Jan-18-10 08:58 PM
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50. Then quit calling yourselves "Obama's base"... because he *IS* a Democrat
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Offline Oceander

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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 08:36:57 PM »
God almighty but the standup comedy on DU would earn some 6-figure payouts if it ever made it on-stage.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 08:50:56 PM »
Ignoring the facts in front of their faces is something many DUers have mastered.

90%+ of Democrats will vote for Coakley, helped keep an innocent man in prison, protected real child molesters, etc etc
98%+ of Republicans will vote for Brown,
2/3rds of independents seem to be supporting Brown at this point

There is no liberal vote against the Dems. They might be angry and upset but they will always vote for the ones holding the leash.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 08:54:25 PM »
Tomorrow should be fun !!


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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 08:58:28 PM »
Bring it  :popcorn:
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 09:13:03 PM »
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Face the fact, the left is pissed. You may not like it, but if you simply stick your head in the sand on this one, you're going to lose badly in the fall.

The simply fact is, there are too many on the left to allow Brown to win as outline. It is simply the left, pissed off and staying at home that is going to turn the tide for Brown.

There's insane and then there's INSANE.  This primitive is definately in the INSANE category.  Let's hope the whole Dem party is as INSANE as he is.  We already know they have STUPID covered.

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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 09:15:45 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on January 18, 2010, 08:54:25 PM
Tomorrow should be fun !!
Watching Dems crash N Burn is always priceless.

I mean I don't really like Scott Brown, I don't know much about him. As I have said before I have 0.0% respect for anyone who takes off their clothes for the camera.

Still Coakley & the Dems deserve their meltdown.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 10:09:54 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on January 18, 2010, 08:54:25 PM
Tomorrow should be fun !!





Yes, it will.  We are ordering pizza and making cake just for the occasion.  Just for this occasion, I think I will force myself to watch Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow just to see their heads asplode! 

 :hyper: :popcorn: :hyper: :popcorn: :hyper: :popcorn: :hyper: :popcorn:


P.S.  Thanks for the avatar idea! 
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 10:13:24 PM »
What time do the polls close?  I have the day off tomorrow, so I'll definitely be here in the evening.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 10:24:24 PM »
While I have no love or respect for Scott Brown, I want Coakley to lose, she is pure evil.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 11:18:39 PM »
Anytime we can replace a dipshit like the "swimmer" with a repub is grounds for celebration!!!!!!!

I mean c'mon! This is goin' to be a real buttreamin' for the left!

I'm goin' to laugh for days! They're goin' to "cry" for years!
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 11:21:00 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on January 18, 2010, 08:54:25 PM
Tomorrow should be fun !!


I certainly hope so, although I am cynical enough (I would call it mere realism) to suspect all sorts of Democrat dirty tricks to, as Ed Schultz so felicitously put it, steal this election.  At any rate, here's part of my little graphic contribution to the paradigm-shift taking place right now:

The Evolution of a Democrat



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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 11:23:32 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on January 18, 2010, 11:18:39 PM
I'm goin' to laugh for days! They're goin' to "cry" for years!

That will be a real treat, for sure.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 11:24:09 PM »
Buh bye democRATs. The people are retaking the Republic.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 07:54:52 AM »
So let me see if I have this right.  Democratic candidate isn't far enough left, so everyone is going to vote for a Republican?  I wish these people would actualy use this thing they call a brain.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 07:58:00 AM »
I believe the Kostards are always floating that balloon--"We need to move even more to the left; then we'll win elections in droves!!!!"   It's willfully ignorant, and that's no way to go through life, son. 

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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2010, 07:58:19 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on January 19, 2010, 07:54:52 AM
So let me see if I have this right.  Democratic candidate isn't far enough left, so everyone is going to vote for a Republican?  I wish these people would actualy use this thing they call a brain.

For them to atually use their brain would mean they'd have to aknowledge that a lot of the reason they lose is their fault and not someone elses.

Instead they keep their gray matter powered down and spout crap like "we lost because we didn't go enough to the left"..."we lost because we didn't get out message out in the media properly"...either that or they go around muttering to themseves about it being Bush's fault and DIEBOLD!!!!
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2010, 07:59:15 AM »
Quote from: Karin on January 19, 2010, 07:58:00 AM
I believe the Kostards are always floating that balloon--"We need to move even more to the left; then we'll win elections in droves!!!!"   It's willfully ignorant, and that's no way to go through life, son. 



That line of thinking predates the Kos Kiddies.  IIRC I've heard that excuse as far back as th Reagan years.
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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2010, 09:54:18 AM »
PleasePleasePleasePleasePLEASE go farther left, Dems!

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Re: Coakley in trouble, Dems aren't far enough left
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2010, 01:30:10 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 19, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
PleasePleasePleasePleasePLEASE go farther left, Dems!
AMEN! I fully support the democrats nominating the DUmp dream ticket of McKinney/Kucinich.
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