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Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients, UGP & Bobo the Hobo Tag Team, Hilarity Ensues
« on: January 16, 2010, 11:54:35 PM »
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Neb. bill would tie welfare benefits to drug tests

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God forbid an addict needs help to survive!
And would that piss test exclude certain psych meds?Prescribed by your psychiatrist? How about Pain killers for people in pain management under a doctor's care?


This who DESERVES mentality of the right and it's stupid zero sum game bullshit is what has to DIE.
Improve ones life? Who measures the'improvements' and defines what an'improvement" IS in someone else s's life ? Is it centered on getting a JOB or a person's capacity to live their own life? Who DEFINES that? The person or the MARKET responsible for the psychopathic sorts of lies made into belief that people get what they "deserve"...
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v3n2/justwor...


**** you Janssen what makes YOU think you deserve your wealth asshole? What makes YOU think you get to decide who survives.
I think rich parasites like you deserve to be hated and made poor for the rich politician pigs like you exploited millions to become what they are.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7484428

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Edited by franksolich to add name of original poster; sorry for the inconvenience.  Carry on.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients, UGP & Bobo the Hobo Tag Team, Hilarity Ensues
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 12:06:38 AM »
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74. It is society paying people
   
to live with a bare sense of independence. That is their minimum wage for being born in the U.S. It is either that or prisons and workhouses. You can call it a gift as, no doubt, it makes you feel superior.

Being born in the US is a burden for which one deserves to be compensated?

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Go fellate a jack hammer before I repeal the 13th amendment.

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97. Independence is myth
   
we all need each other to survive.The world is a hostile predatory place,it does not need people playing elitist with others lives on top of bloody clawed nature. No one asked to be born here.Nobody deserves the shit life flings on people. Humanity does not need stupid hypocrites spouting social darwinism pointed at some of us because we are not the fortunate ones. Not everyone is lucky or copes or handles hardships like certain self righteous twits pride themselves upon ,Look if we were a bunch of sociopaths we would not exist as a species.Social Darwinism is eugenics and it is a LIE.
That's reality.
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99. lol you do realise that you are just an animal like any other, darwinism cuts across the species
   
at the end of the day. you say independance is a myth, yes it is to you but to many peoples its how they live and survive..
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jan-16-10 10:51 PM
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104. She said "Social Darwinism" which is a eugenicist crackpot theory dreamed
   
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 10:51 PM by Luminous Animal
up by Charles Darwin's crackpot cousin. It applies the scientific conclusions of evolution in order to human interactions in order to support a dog-eat-dog world.
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111. you do know it is a dog eat dog world dont you, we have this veneer of society but strip that away
   
and we become tribal as hell, just look at any place in the world were civilisation breaks down even for a few hours and you start to see the unravelling..
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119. In tribal societies, the tribe takes care of all of its members. That's what we've lost
   
But overall, you're right, mostly, humans (like other chimps) are a loutish, aggressive species that ordinarily drives away or kills the weak and the sick, commits genocide, wages war, rapes, murders, and cannibalizes.

The difference is we don't HAVE to be.

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142. as an anthropologist, I have to tell you, you are incorrect. Tribe members depend on their clan
   
and membership depends on a shared world view and strict adherence to rules.

If you step outside the bounds of highly circumscribed behavior, you will be ostracized.

Furthermore, in tribal society, all resources belong to the group. You do not get anything without subscribing to the religion of the group.

Many DU'ers don't realize the freedom we have from the social strictures tribes adhere to.

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208. not all tribes are like that
   


http://www.enotes.com/genocide-encyclopedia/taino-arawa...
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214. rofl you do realise that link says they are all dead and gone

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Exterminted by genocde no less.   :evillaugh:
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 12:07:55 AM »
isn't it the left that thinks the economy is a zero sum game?
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients, UGP & Bobo the Hobo Tag Team, Hilarity Ensues
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 12:28:25 AM »
Quote from: FGL on January 17, 2010, 12:07:55 AM
isn't it the left that thinks the economy is a zero sum game?

Yep, they think that for them to get ahead, others have to suffer. They must have just discovered the phrase, as I've seen it at least three times over the last two days. Their context in which they use it never makes any sense. They just claim out of nowhere that we're zero sum, with no anecdotal evidence to back it up. I suppose they think it makes them look smart.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 12:40:25 AM »
The DUmmies are so short sited that they don't see just how much Americans happily help their fellow Americans.  Go to a food bank or soup kitchen on any given day, and there will be volunteers gladly helping.  Habitat for Humanity generally has a waiting list to volunteer.  In general, people, especially religious people, will give what they can to help.  However, they expect what they give to be put to good use.  They expect it to be spent on food and other necessities, not recreational drugs.  They expect people to do what they can to improve their own situation once the immediate needs have been met. 

Why do the DUmmies think that productive Americans should provide for those who choose to be non-productive members of society.  If you want to sit around and smoke weed all day, go for it, but don't expect me to pay for it. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 01:56:27 AM »
The opening post is total bullshit to begin with.  I'll type slow so any lurking DUmmies can understand....

If you have to take a drug test, take your PRESCRIPTIONS with you.  My wife has to have drug tests and she is on prescription pain meds for chronic back pain.  No problem whatsoever with any drug tests....

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 02:17:32 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 17, 2010, 12:06:38 AM
Being born in the US is a burden for which one deserves to be compensated?

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66. Nope. It is a meager payoff for being forced to live in a competitive system.  And in every competition, every single one, there are losers. It is our mean tip of the hat to socialism which gives the losers the bare minimum to survive so that we don't have to step over their sick and dying bodies on the way to the coffee shop.
They're insane. :lmao:
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 03:30:42 AM »
On what planet could piss testing people who feed off of the government teat every be a bad idea? Said here before, I had to do random piss tests for nigh on a decade to even be allowed a script for opiates. Seems fair that if someone else, i.e. the American Taxpayer, has to pay for it, then some rules should be written and implemented.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 04:43:19 AM »
Quote from: happy1ga on January 17, 2010, 03:30:42 AM
On what planet could piss testing people who feed off of the government teat every be a bad idea? Said here before, I had to do random piss tests for nigh on a decade to even be allowed a script for opiates. Seems fair that if someone else, i.e. the American Taxpayer, has to pay for it, then some rules should be written and implemented.

But, milady, the gutter gato thinks that, because it exists and uses some of the same oxygen molecules as others do, everyone else must support it.  The extreme application of the phrase, "From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs."

The gutter gato thinks that, by its' very presence upon the Earth, that all of us mere mortals should be grateful to Gaia for putting the he/she/it here.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2010, 05:01:41 AM »
I had to take a drug test Friday for work, so did one other person in my department.  Evidently the other guy forgot to study for it.  He claims to have been at a party and got second hand "smoke".  They sent his sample to a better lab, and if the level is below a certain minimum, then he's in the clear.

Hey DUmmies, if I have to be tested to work for a paycheck, then you can certainly be tested for your freebies.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2010, 06:56:52 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 17, 2010, 05:01:41 AM
I had to take a drug test Friday for work, so did one other person in my department.  Evidently the other guy forgot to study for it.  He claims to have been at a party and got second hand "smoke".  They sent his sample to a better lab, and if the level is below a certain minimum, then he's in the clear.

Hey DUmmies, if I have to be tested to work for a paycheck, then you can certainly be tested for your freebies.

I'm so glad they have an initial screening process in the nuclear industry.  Cuts down on the moonbat factor considerably.  Either that, or any DUmmie who can get past a drug test, and a pysch screen, and financial and criminal background checks, and references without any flags coming up is a really good mole over at the DUmp.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 07:51:21 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on January 17, 2010, 01:56:27 AM
The opening post is total bullshit to begin with.  I'll type slow so any lurking DUmmies can understand....

If you have to take a drug test, take your PRESCRIPTIONS with you.  My wife has to have drug tests and she is on prescription pain meds for chronic back pain.  No problem whatsoever with any drug tests....

The subway cat needs to stop eating out of her own litterbox, she is already full of shit...

In my experience you're 100% correct. A few years back I had to take a drug test to do work on a particular factory's property. Not long before I had to take the drug test I was given some pain meds by a doctor. I asked him about the drugs and the test. He told me to just take the prescription to the test. I showed the prescription to the test giver. She marked it down, and I had no problems.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 08:02:08 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 17, 2010, 05:01:41 AM
I had to take a drug test Friday for work, so did one other person in my department.  Evidently the other guy forgot to study for it.  He claims to have been at a party and got second hand "smoke".  They sent his sample to a better lab, and if the level is below a certain minimum, then he's in the clear.

Hey DUmmies, if I have to be tested to work for a paycheck, then you can certainly be tested for your freebies.

What is the other guy's DU name?  :rotf:

And I agree, if those of us who have to pee in a bottle to have the privilege of going to work then they can pee in a bottle too. And anyone with any common sense knows if you are on prescription drugs you take the script in when you get tested. DUmmies prove very day how stupid they are.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 08:16:19 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 17, 2010, 05:01:41 AM
I had to take a drug test Friday for work, so did one other person in my department.  Evidently the other guy forgot to study for it.  He claims to have been at a party and got second hand "smoke".  They sent his sample to a better lab, and if the level is below a certain minimum, then he's in the clear.

Hey DUmmies, if I have to be tested to work for a paycheck, then you can certainly be tested for your freebies.

I drove for a delivery company for over 20 years, and per DOT regs, we had to have a mandatory drug test, at least 2 random each year, plus we got another one biannually when we got our DOT physicals....

I guess it never occurred to a DUmmie that if you stay clean and sober, you have nothing to worry about....
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2010, 08:28:47 AM »
Oh my.

Someone else besides franksolich looks at Skins's island as an adventure in anthropology?

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142. as an anthropologist, I have to tell you, you are incorrect. Tribe members depend on their clan and membership depends on a shared world view and strict adherence to rules.

If you step outside the bounds of highly circumscribed behavior, you will be ostracized.

Furthermore, in tribal society, all resources belong to the group. You do not get anything without subscribing to the religion of the group.

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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2010, 08:31:46 AM »
I bet some there now have Kitty tagged as your mole Frank.  :rotf:
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010, 08:34:50 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on January 17, 2010, 08:16:19 AM
I drove for a delivery company for over 20 years, and per DOT regs, we had to have a mandatory drug test, at least 2 random each year, plus we got another one biannually when we got our DOT physicals....

I guess it never occurred to a DUmmie that if you stay clean and sober, you have nothing to worry about....
If you read the thread you'll see the only welfare recipients on illegal drugs--EVER--are combat vets scarred with PTSD from *'s evil corporatist wars (thankfully Obama is in office so the righteous glow of His Being shields troops from PTSD).
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2010, 08:36:06 AM »
Quote from: Randy on January 17, 2010, 08:31:46 AM
I bet some there now have Kitty tagged as your mole Frank.  :rotf:

Oooops.

There I went again, speaking twice and thinking once, rather than thinking twice and speaking once.

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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010, 08:43:32 AM »
After more than a third of a century of active and reserve military service to collect the shilling, I really don't have any sympathy at all for any whining by someone else that want's public money.  The military tests are, shall we say, a bit more intrusive than many civilian tests. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2010, 08:54:59 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 17, 2010, 08:43:32 AM
... The military tests are, shall we say, a bit more intrusive than many civilian tests. 

I keep trying to explain that I'm just really cold.
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2010, 09:05:00 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 17, 2010, 08:54:59 AM
I keep trying to explain that I'm just really cold.

I'm sure they know you're really 'A bigger man than that,' MSB.
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2010, 09:08:41 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 17, 2010, 08:34:50 AM
If you read the thread you'll see the only welfare recipients on illegal drugs--EVER--are combat vets scarred with PTSD from *'s evil corporatist wars (thankfully Obama is in office so the righteous glow of His Being shields troops from PTSD).

I am so stealing that last sentence that and shoving it down every liberal's throat I can find.
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2010, 09:38:26 AM »
They want the government OUT of their business on welfare but INTO their business on healthcare.

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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients, UGP & Bobo the Hobo Tag Team, Hilarity Ensues
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2010, 10:14:20 AM »
Quote from: Texacon on January 17, 2010, 09:38:26 AM
They want the government OUT of their business on welfare but INTO their business on healthcare.

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You're missing the connection: they want free drugs.

Their ability to corrupt themselves is more important to than any sense of liberty or self-sufficiency.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients, UGP & Bobo the Hobo Tag Team, Hilarity Ensues
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2010, 10:17:23 AM »
I fail to see why they cant understand the concept of the more you give to someone the less they will tend to work. ::)
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"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
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