Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain

[NHSparky]

Almost.

Your hero, I presume...



Tyrants and oligarchs mistrust the people, hence they deprive them of arms.  --Aristotle

[Aaron Burr]

An almost extinct species.

Wow! Look at the guns on this lib. Too bad they don't reproduce.....um, naturally.

[AbsolutNickUSN]

Your hero, I presume...



Tyrants and oligarchs mistrust the people, hence they deprive them of arms.  --Aristotle

You would.

[NHSparky]

You would.

Hmmmmm...sounds like I've hit a nerve.

GOOD.

[rich_t]

Hmmmmm...sounds like I've hit a nerve.

GOOD.

Perhaps his hero is:



Notice how the bitch has her finger on the trigger of an uncleared weapon in a room full of civilians.

[AbsolutNickUSN]

Hmmmmm...sounds like I've hit a nerve.

GOOD.

Very true.


but given you're now just picking this up and on the wrong note reiterates that you haven't been paying attention.

[AbsolutNickUSN]

Perhaps his hero is:

Try again.

[NHSparky]

Ah, yes--Senator "Freedom for me, but not for thee!" Feinstein, she of the, "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it."  She of the vote against the Vitter Amdenment.

Oh, those tolerant liberals!

[NHSparky]

Very true.


but given you're now just picking this up and on the wrong note reiterates that you haven't been paying attention.

To you?  Why waste the effort?  Not worth the time.  I see your lips moving, but all I hear is, "Blah, blah, blah..."

[Oceander]

and Liberty is a well armed Liberal contesting the vote.

Sorry, but no, not as per the current working definition of a "liberal" - perhaps yes if we're talking about someone who's a member of the Australian Liberal Party (i.e., the customary opponents of the Labour Party, which I think should give you a clue as to their basic political philosophy), or liberalism from the time of John Stuart Mill, "an influential British Classical liberal thinker of the 19th century whose works on liberty justified freedom of the individual in opposition to unlimited state control" - that is, someone who would be radically opposed to the connivings of the current crop of liberals in the Whitehouse and in Congress.

An armed American Liberal is a threat to the liberty of everyone around that liberal, not any sort of protection for that liberty.

[rich_t]

Try again.

They aren't indicative of the armed liberals of which you speak?

[NHSparky]

Try again.

Well, dear boy, you are the company you keep.

[AbsolutNickUSN]

The Thompson is pretty sweet.

[AbsolutNickUSN]

Sorry, but no, not as per the current working definition of a "liberal" - perhaps yes if we're talking about someone who's a member of the Australian Liberal Party (i.e., the customary opponents of the Labour Party, which I think should give you a clue as to their basic political philosophy), or liberalism from the time of John Stuart Mill, "an influential British Classical liberal thinker of the 19th century whose works on liberty justified freedom of the individual in opposition to unlimited state control" - that is, someone who would be radically opposed to the connivings of the current crop of liberals in the Whitehouse and in Congress.

An armed American Liberal is a threat to the liberty of everyone around that liberal, not any sort of protection for that liberty.

You're warm.

[NHSparky]

The Thompson is pretty sweet.

Yes, I know--I've fired one.  Of course, liberals would deny me that right.

[Oceander]

To you?  Why waste the effort?  Not worth the time.  I see your lips moving, but all I hear is, "Blah, blah, blah..."

Are you sure?  To me, that distinctly sounded like "Ba-a-a-h, ba-a-a-a-h, ba-a-a..."

[NHSparky]

You're warm.

I identify most closely with the philosophy of Mill, which is why I laugh my ass off at the current crop of big-government statist hacks who claim to be "liberal", but in reality are anything but.

But back on topic--so would you agree with me that the political left in this country has made a habit over the past, say, quarter-century to turn national tragedy into political points for their agenda or not?

Please provide examples to support your conclusion.

[AbsolutNickUSN]

To you?  Why waste the effort?  Not worth the time. 

The time already spent suggests otherwise.

I see your lips moving, but all I hear is, "Blah, blah, blah..."

impressive.



Opps did it again with the semantics didn't I?

[Oceander]

You're warm.

And you're a fool, particularly if you think that the "liberalism" George Washington was referring to in the quotation you have in your signature line:

"As Mankind becomes more Liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and Liberality."     -George Washington

is anything other than the diametric opposite of what passes for "liberalism" today.  Liberals today are nothing more than latter-day King George the Thirds, without the powdered wigs (except for in certain circles in Soho and S.F., where powdered wigs are considered the ultimate accessory for the floppy wrist).

[rich_t]

Yes, I know--I've fired one.  Of course, liberals would deny me that right.

Many would deny you the right to own even a single shot firearm of any sort.

[Aaron Burr]

Hey! I got to fire a Thompson too. At the "unmarked" training facility out at Silver Springs. Sadly, no Tellicherry peppercorns were to be found.

Anyway, glad to see there is a topic for this thread. Wish Nicky would simply answer instead of playing coy.

[AbsolutNickUSN]

I identify most closely with the philosophy of Mill, which is why I laugh my ass off at the current crop of big-government statist hacks who claim to be "liberal", but in reality are anything but.

But back on topic--so would you agree with me that the political left in this country has made a habit over the past, say, quarter-century to turn national tragedy into political points for their agenda or not?

Please provide examples to support your conclusion.

You have GOT to be kidding me?  

I tried havin a rational adult discussion on the subject and the issues.  

Look how ****in far that got.

[rich_t]

I identify most closely with the philosophy of Mill, which is why I laugh my ass off at the current crop of big-government statist hacks who claim to be "liberal", but in reality are anything but.

But back on topic--so would you agree with me that the political left in this country has made a habit over the past, say, quarter-century to turn national tragedy into political points for their agenda or not?

Please provide examples to support your conclusion.

Quarter-century?  Closer to half from where I sit.

[Aaron Burr]

Bah. Thompsons are heavy as Hell. Tellicherries kick ass. And this thread is going nowhere.

[rich_t]

Hey! I got to fire a Thompson too. At the "unmarked" training facility out at Silver Springs. Sadly, no Tellicherry peppercorns were to be found.

Anyway, glad to see there is a topic for this thread. Wish Nicky would simply answer instead of playing coy.

Honestly now...  Have you ever seen a liberal give a straight up answer on a message board?

I haven't and I've been on various boards for well over a decade now.