primitives discuss Senate race in Massachusetts

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7470527

Oh my.

BurtWorm  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 08:32 AM
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Massachusetts, you're not really going to inflict a PaliniteTea Partier on the rest of us, are you?   

In Teddy's seat? Because of opposition to health care reform?!

PS: Is there anything the rest of us can do to help?

The primitives getting all worried about something they don't need to be.

Given the corrupt machine that runs the commonwealth, I don't see the Republican winning; even if he pulls in a margin of 70-30% in the honest votes, the Democrat machines will flip them for their candidate.

If I were a primitive, I wouldn't worry.

shopgreen (134 posts)      Fri Jan-15-10 08:34 AM
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2. Pray? (for those who are into that).

boston bean  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 08:37 AM
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3. Yes, start holding the leadership of the Democratic Party responsible for the principles in the platform.

drm604  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 08:42 AM
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4. We need to hold onto that 60th seat first.

Craftsman (1000+ posts)      Fri Jan-15-10 08:44 AM
THE SEARS, ROEBUCK PRIMITIVE
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6. If he is even close to wining the blue dogs and those in contested seats will bolt to the right.

negativenihil (524 posts)      Fri Jan-15-10 08:46 AM
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7. ugh

the unfortunate fact is that western mass isn't as liberal as eastern mass. It's almost like a whole other state out there.

i have a rotten feeling that this one is going to be real close...

Tesha  (1000+ posts)      Fri Jan-15-10 09:03 AM
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10. The heck with worrying about *WESTERN* Mass!

Worry about the Boston 'burbs!

Yesterday, I was driing around Boston's northern suburbs and while I saw lots of Brown lawn signs and quite a few Brown bumper stickers, I've never ever seen even one sign or sticker for Coakley!

It's as though she felt like she didn't need to run any campaign at all! Didn't someone tell her that the Republicans, nationwide, had absolutely nothing else to so this January besides creating trouble for her in Massachusetts???

Democrats have to be some of the most naïve politicians on the planet!!!

MiniMe  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 08:50 AM
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8. They have an "independent" candidate running, and his name is Joe Kennedy

That may confuse some voters because of the name.

LaydeeBug  (1000+ posts)       Fri Jan-15-10 08:54 AM
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9. whatever happened to Ted Jr? 

this is making me sick too, but the puking icon makes me sicker, so this is my last response in this thread.

If I were a primitive, I wouldn't worry; the bosses will pull it out.

[USA4ME]

You are correct, frank.  With Vast Teddy and Lurch, they consistently won by 70%+ of the vote.  If this Dem candidate doesn't do the same thing, that spells trouble for the Dems nationwide in 2010 unless they can pull out a miracle.  Will the primitives ever grasp that message from this Senate election?  No.

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[The Village Idiot]

It looks like Joe "not a" Kennedy is going to drop out. He'll likely endorsed Martha

[Karin]

even if he pulls in a margin of 70-30% in the honest votes, the Democrat machines will flip them for their candidate.

Now just wait a minute.  How can you be so casual?  You almost sound as if you're yawning, Frank.  Where do we live, Iran?  Venezuela?  Well, dammit, not yet.  There are a lot of people saying that if weirdness follows this election, the entire country will explode.  I'll be one of them. 

[formerlurker]

It looks like Joe "not a" Kennedy is going to drop out. He'll likely endorsed Martha

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 where are you getting  that info?

[The Village Idiot]

Now just wait a minute.  How can you be so casual?  You almost sound as if you're yawning, Frank.  Where do we live, Iran?  Venezuela?  Well, dammit, not yet.  There are a lot of people saying that if weirdness follows this election, the entire country will explode.  I'll be one of them. 

Just like Minnesota?

[delilahmused]

Just like Minnesota?

I couldn't believe that one...and the people seemed so disconnected.

Cindie

[Peter3_1]

COAKELY is the poster child for useful idiot politicians. We have al-Qaeda here in America, but none in Afganistan? Idiot quickliy loseing usefulness.....

[Karin]

When Minnesota was going on, FGL, enough people hadn't woken to the country going over the cliff.  Times have changed. 

[zeitgeist]

There are so many threads over there bemoaning this election I have lost track of them all.  One called Poll Shocker: Brown Surges is attracting lots of attention:

No Elephants (1000+ posts)      Fri Jan-15-10 12:08 AM
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8. I hope you're right. I've only ever had Democrats representing me in Massachusetts, on both 
 Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 12:09 AM by No Elephants
the state and federal levels (except for Governors). Our state legislature is about 95% Democrat. Currently, even our Governor is Democrat (Deval Patrick, whose campaign David Axelrod also ran.) His poll numbers have not been good, either, though.

I am very disappointed. And this is hard for me because my Rep, Mike Capuano, should have beat Martha in the primary, IMO. However, as AG, she had statewide name recognition, while he did not. (Uninformed voters!!) And, as I said, being a woman gave her an advantage in the race, which she freely admitted.

Like so many, I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7470734

Apparently the negative pachyderm is to young to remember this guy:

Edward William Brooke, III (born October 26, 1919), is an American politician and was the first African American to be elected by popular vote to the United States Senate when he was elected as a Republican from Massachusetts in 1966, defeating his Democratic opponent, Endicott Peabody, 58%–42%. He was also the first African American elected to the Senate since the 19th century, and would remain the only person of African heritage sent to the Senate in the 20th century until Democrat Carol Moseley Braun in 1993. He remains, as of 2009, the last Republican senator from Massachusetts, and the last elected African American member of the U.S. Senate to come from the Republican Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Brooke

Dummy angst is at an all time high as probably are more than a few dummies!!

[USA4ME]

No Elephants

I hope you're right. I've only ever had Democrats representing me in Massachusetts...

In a graduate economics class in college in the mid-80's, the prof divided us into groups and we were to take the state budgets of, I think, 5 states of our choosing and show what would need to happen in order to balance them.  Of all 50, he told us not to even bother choosing Massachusetts, that they were so out of whack it would be impossible.  

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[franksolich]

Apparently the negative pachyderm is to young to remember this guy:

Yeah, after Edward Brooke was elected, there were only 97 white guys in the U.S. Senate.

The other three were of course Brooke (R), Margaret Chase Smith of Maine (R), and Hiram Fong of Hawaii (R).

Also what's little known is that Charles Curtis of Kansas (R) during the 1920s was the first U.S. Senator of Native American derivation, and the first vice-president of Native American derivation--I forget if he was vice-president under Coolidge or Hoover, though, and am too lazy to look it up.

[The Village Idiot]

Yeah, after Edward Brooke was elected, there were only 97 white guys in the U.S. Senate.

The other three were of course Brooke (R), Margaret Chase Smith of Maine (R), and Hiram Fong of Hawaii (R).

Also what's little known is that Charles Curtis of Kansas (R) during the 1920s was the first U.S. Senator of Native American derivation, and the first vice-president of Native American derivation--I forget if he was vice-president under Coolidge or Hoover, though, and am too lazy to look it up.

Hey Frank, I left a message for you on a thread in the book forum

[GOBUCKS]

The other three were of course Brooke (R), Margaret Chase Smith of Maine (R), and Hiram Fong of Hawaii (R).

Every time I see a name like Fong, it reminds me of that W. C. Fields movie where the salesman is shouting questions about Carl LaFong, "Capital L small a capital F small o small n small g, LaFong", while an irritated Fields is trying to sleep.

[franksolich]

Every time I see a name like Fong, it reminds me of that W. C. Fields movie where the salesman is shouting questions about Carl LaFong, "Capital L small a capital F small o small n small g, LaFong", while an irritated Fields is trying to sleep.

Now sir, Hiram Fong (R-Hawaii, 1959-1977) was a great Republican; the only tragedy being he was pretty old when first elected, and so wasn't around but three terms before he retired.

[Allentownjake]

Yeah, after Edward Brooke was elected, there were only 97 white guys in the U.S. Senate.

The other three were of course Brooke (R), Margaret Chase Smith of Maine (R), and Hiram Fong of Hawaii (R).

Also what's little known is that Charles Curtis of Kansas (R) during the 1920s was the first U.S. Senator of Native American derivation, and the first vice-president of Native American derivation--I forget if he was vice-president under Coolidge or Hoover, though, and am too lazy to look it up.

Curtis was VP under Hoover.  Hoover was a good man.  He has one or two black spots on the historical record but he lead the relief efforts in Europe after WWI and almost lost his career in politics for going into Russia and helping the Russian people after the Soviets took charge.  His response was simple, there are starving people there, I don't care about the ideology of their government.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Apparently Coakley made a little boo-boo on the radio and came across as saying Schilling was a Yankees fan.  That could actually be the nail in the coffin for her, nobody takes the BoSox/Yankees thing as seriously as the demographic she is depending on for crucial support.

[BlueStateSaint]

Apparently Coakley made a little boo-boo on the radio and came across as saying Schilling was a Yankees fan.  That could actually be the nail in the coffin for her, nobody takes the BoSox/Yankees thing as seriously as the demographic she is depending on for crucial support.

I saw the transcript.  She corrected it, but she made the mistake.  Likely, along with her shot at Brown for his actually standing outside Fenway shaking hands with voters, to cost her a percentage point or two.  In this election, that's all it takes.

[AllosaursRus]

Coakley is the typical POS entitled DimWit the country is so sick of! She started out thinkin', "it's in the bag"! Every single DEmagogue is going to learn that you just can't dismiss the American voter the way they have been doing! It's time for the tar and feathers!!!

[Oceander]

Apparently Coakley made a little boo-boo on the radio and came across as saying Schilling was a Yankees fan.  That could actually be the nail in the coffin for her, nobody takes the BoSox/Yankees thing as seriously as the demographic she is depending on for crucial support.

You may be spot on with that point!

[Peter3_1]

Yes, Kurt and "The Yas" were BIG yankee fans.......and....anyway,,,....they don't play any more.......and....well....she's ENTITLED to be Senator! The American Royalty , the Irish Mafia SAID SO......!!!!  So THERE!


May the gods let her lose.

[LadyLiberty]

They're worried because ACORN has been busted.