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Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« on: January 08, 2010, 05:01:20 PM »
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Newsjock  (1000+ posts)       Wed Jan-06-10 08:41 PM
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Nova Scotia Muslim woman refused entry to U.S.
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A newlywed Nova Scotia woman hoping to visit her husband in the United States says she wasn't allowed to board a flight at Halifax Stanfield International Airport this week because she is a Muslim.

Ayat Manna, 25, of Dartmouth, said she thinks she was picked out of the crowd Monday night because she wears a Muslim headscarf. She said U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents questioned her for four hours, fingerprinted her and then escorted her out of the airport.

"I was walking downstairs in front of everybody. I had two guards and the police. They're all walking beside me as if I'm a terrorist," she said Wednesday.

Originally from Jordan, Manna has lived in Nova Scotia for 15 years and has been a Canadian citizen for 12 years.

... She said the interrogation by the border agents was humiliating.

"They asked me about my background, how much I pay in rent and why I don't own my own house. I don't know why they ask me these questions, if I'm pregnant or not," she said.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/01/06/n...
 


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Randall Flagg (46 posts)      Wed Jan-06-10 08:54 PM
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4. What a sad state of affairs.
 It seems as if the terrorists may have won.

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dkf  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-06-10 09:00 PM
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5. Travel is a privilege not a right. 
 As is access into any foreign country.
 
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msanthrope  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-06-10 10:49 PM
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19. Your blanket statement ignores settled constitutional law.
 The 'right to travel', while not absolute, is most definitely a federally-recognized right--not a privilege. 


"Constitutional" ... "federally-recognized"..... aren't these terms reserved for, let's see, US CITIZENS?  I know I didn't go to law school, like msanthrope did, but this strikes me as teh stoopid.  TLB would have had something to add here, I am sure of it.

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2010, 07:12:18 PM »
I knew we were too soft on terrorists if a cop walking behind you makes you feel like one.  :lmao:

because she is a Muslim? I see, so there are no other Muslims flying into the US at all?? Obvious lie.

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2010, 07:13:29 PM »
They need to stop their colonialist thinking that the US Constitution applies to foreigners in foreign lands.

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2010, 03:43:23 AM »

Did I read this right? U.S. agents questioned her and escorted her out of a Canadian Airport? They can do that? Cool.

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2010, 07:04:34 AM »
Did I read this right? U.S. agents questioned her and escorted her out of a Canadian Airport? They can do that? Cool.

Yeah, I noted that too.  Funny, I've traveled to probably 20 different countries in my day and never once in any airport or seaport outside the United States did I see US Customs anywhere around.
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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2010, 08:35:55 AM »
If it is a right,  I want to go to Hawaii.  It is cold here
You see, I don't care you how feel.  I really don't.  More importantly, neither does anyone else.  Only about 200 people on a planet of 7 billion actually care about your feelings, and that's if you're lucky.  The sooner you grasp this lesson, the better off you will be.  And since almost no one gives a damn what you do, say, think, or feel, appealing to your feelings when you encounter differences of opinion is not only illogical, but useless.

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2010, 09:24:47 AM »
Did I read this right? U.S. agents questioned her and escorted her out of a Canadian Airport? They can do that? Cool.

US agent can do pre-entry inspection at Canadian airports, just like they would if somebody was driving over the Canadian border.
  :whatever:
You know what, I can tell you exactly why they didn't let her in.  They believed she didn't plan to come back Canada.  Whenever people come to the US, they have to overcome the presumption that they are planning to immigrate, so they need to to show strong ties to their home country.  Her husband is in the US and she had a one-way ticket.  What did she have in Canada to encourage her to return?  I sincerely doubt it had anything to do with her religion.  Idiot   :whatever:

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2010, 10:52:09 AM »
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I met an intelligent and attractive Marine Lieutenant at the local Gym who had an Iranian heritage. I recognized her features because unlike many non-enlightened American Citizens, I've had the privilege to reside for a time in Iran as a child of diplomatic American Parents.

Guess what? She was assigned to the "Finance Branch." What a waste! She could speak Farsi and her parents were first generation (Cultural understanding) but instead of recruiting her for INTELLIGENCE, she was stuck in finance.

Did the flaming dwarf ask the young Marine if she wanted to work in finance? Or did the flaming dwarf assume that someone of such cultural and ethnic background should be forced to work in said area. The dwarf thinks that the young Marine should automatically be forced into looking and playing the part of her ethnic background. The dwarf wants to be entertained and made to believe she's better than others because she saw an actual live Iranian, or other ethnic person, in their native habitat. Working in finance doesn't give the flaming dwarf the thrill as if she had been to a zoo.

I've run into this with leftists. They assume, because of my ethnicity, that I am to be pigeon-holed into their idea of "Native American." I'm not supposed to work in IT, I'm supposed to be an artist painting about the plight of the poor tortured planet.  :bawl:

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2010, 11:13:29 AM »
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I met an intelligent and attractive Marine Lieutenant at the local Gym who had an Iranian heritage. I recognized her features because unlike many non-enlightened American Citizens, I've had the privilege to reside for a time in Iran as a child of diplomatic American Parents.

Guess what? She was assigned to the "Finance Branch." What a waste! She could speak Farsi and her parents were first generation (Cultural understanding) but instead of recruiting her for INTELLIGENCE, she was stuck in finance.

Yeah, so what if she was a CPA and had an undergrad degree in accounting and an MBA?  Stupid military!!!111!!!

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Re: Primitives debate travel: privilege or right?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 06:50:27 AM »
And better yet, from what nation does this post come from?  Last I heard, WE AIN'T HAD NO EMBASSY IN IRAN FOR 30 ****IN YEARS!!!
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