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DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« on: January 03, 2010, 07:47:03 PM »
DUmmy rhett o rick has had it with sane democrats:
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rhett o rick  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 08:14 PM
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You say centrist, I say bullshit.
The one thing that GWB the idiot king got right was that you are either with him or against him. I so agree. You are either with the corporatist oligarchy or against it. The right-wingnuts are with corporatism (read fascism) and the left is against. Where do the so-called centrists stand?

In DU I find it interesting that some posters attack the left. They hid behind being so-called centrists or blue dogs. I say bull shit. Why would Democrats attack the left? The left adds a lot of energy and support to the Party and was very instrumental in electing Pres Obama. One might argue that the left is sometimes too enthusiastic, and I say how can you be too enthusiastic when fighting for freedom? A real Democrat* would not venomously attack the left as the so called centrists (blue dogs) do.

I have found only two kinds of so-called centrists in DU. One appears to me to be the new right wing of the Democratic Party (the blue dogs). And the other are the cowards that agree with the goals of the left but are afraid to identify with the left because the left is portrayed as radical.

Whenever I see a centrist attacking the left, I always ask them to explain the issues that they disagree with the left? Do they disagree with single payer or the robust public option? Do they support escalation of the wars in the Middle East? Do they think that the Patriot Act should be repealed? etc, etc. Never once have they responded to express their stands on issues. IMO their goal here is to disrupt. They attack the left because they are right-wingnuts disguised as Democrats.

Call them out. Ask them how they stand on the issues.

*One must identify a real Democrat as different from the impostors that have sneaked into our tent when the Repukes self destructed.

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I think DUmmy Warpy, in her perpetual narcotic haze, may be even more bitter and hateful since being demolished by Pam and "bobo the hobo" in the Top DUmmy competition:
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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 08:22 PM
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6. No guts, no life, it's all he's got
I agree with you that most self identified centrists have completely forgotten where the center really is, if they ever knew it at all.

The fact that the country is used to conservative rhetoric hasn't moved the center, either. The majority of people, and that's the center, folks, want a robust public option for their health insurance, curbs on runaway executive pay, higher taxes on the rich, and a repaired social safety net.

And that's just the beginning.

Self styled centrists act like all those are positions taken only by loony leftists.

I suggest they might take the time to research a few polls on the subject, but they're all blinded by their own significance and probably won't bother.
 


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Hello_Kitty  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 08:20 PM
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2. It's telling how they have a lot more to say about "leftists"
 Than they do about Lieberman, Nelson, and Stupak. All of whom have a vote in Congress and the ability to kill the legislation if they want. They threatened to do exactly that if concessions weren't made to them.



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lazarus  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jan-03-10 08:20 PM
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3. they're disruptors
 I ran into two on another thread. Made a nice logical argument against them, and they were kind enough to tell me I was now being ignored. Hee hee

I'll bet DUmmy lazarus had a really nice logical argument!


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Buzz Clik  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jan-03-10 08:21 PM
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4. Jeebus effin' Cristo.
"The one thing that GWB the idiot king got right was that you are either with him or against him. I so agree."

Tragic.

You'll be delighted to hear that you also are keeping philosophical company with El Rushbo.

Awesome. 
 


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rhett o rick  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 08:28 PM
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11. You provide an excellent example of what I am talking about. An attack w/o substance.
And I am delighted that you are attacking me. You are making my case. You are one that i have asked time and again to explain your stances on the issues.
But you wont.

And I appreciate the "awesome" comment. 
 

 
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All those centrists should quit voting democrat and get behind the Repubs
or form their own party. They should be required to pass a purity test (determined by DU?) before we let them vote for a democrat

Dennis K for president or NO Democrat in office!

The DUmp's Kootch nuts are exact mirror images of our own libertarian/ronbot loonies. 


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Richardo  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 08:26 PM
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9. A bunch of purist horseshit - how's that?
You want a religion, not a political party.

Good luck with that. 


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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 09:07:54 PM »
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Richardo  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 08:26 PM
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9. A bunch of purist horseshit - how's that?
You want a religion, not a political party.

Good luck with that.

A Little Goon that cuts through the bull and hits the bone.  Wow.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2010, 10:41:23 PM »
I just want to know what polls they're reading because even those done by lefty polling organizations can't find a majority of people who want single payer no matter how they ask the questions or how many for dems are polled.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 12:34:54 AM »
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The fact that the country is used to conservative rhetoric hasn't moved the center, either. The majority of people, and that's the center, folks, want a robust public option for their health insurance, curbs on runaway executive pay, higher taxes on the rich, and a repaired social safety net.

I haven't heard anyone say any of these things other than people who have already self-identified as hardcore leftists/whackjobs.  Well, ok, I heard one person, out of probably twenty or thirty with whom the topic has come up in person, as well as hundreds online in various forums, who thought that "everyone should have health insurance" - but that was about it.

These people need to realize that DU is not the center of the Universe, and that the "center" of DU does not constitute the silent majority of Americans.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 03:59:00 AM »
Just remember that when a DUmmie says he's  "fighting for freedom", he really means He's fighting for "more free stuff" and more government control.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 04:15:08 AM »
Just remember that when a DUmmie says he's  "fighting for freedom", he really means He's fighting for "more free stuff" and more government control.

Or, he's "fighting for freedom to your stuff."
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 08:22:40 AM »
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stray cat  (1000+ posts)   
All those centrists should quit voting democrat and get behind the Repubs
or form their own party. They should be required to
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pass a purity test (determined by DU?)
before we let them vote for a democrat

Dennis K for president or NO Democrat in office!

Wow, just Wow!  OK Stray cat, you go ahead and get working on that.  The part that really gets me is:
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pass a purity test (determined by DU?)


The DUmp controls a political party for half of the entire country?  One would have to get permission from the DUmp to cast a vote?  What drug and what planet is this person on?  We've got a lot of candidates for "posts that stand alone" today.  Jeez. 

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 09:06:00 AM »
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4. Jeebus effin' Cristo.

"The one thing that GWB the idiot king got right was that you are either with him or against him. I so agree."

Tragic.

You'll be delighted to hear that you also are keeping philosophical company with El Rushbo.

Awesome.

If this is in fact the former "Liberal Guy," then what's he complaining about?  His political philosophy was much more "you're either with us or against us" than Bush or Rush ever was.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2010, 09:50:33 AM »
Or, he's "fighting for freedom to your stuff."

Just a slight slip up there.....it won't happen again.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Evil Of Sanity
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2010, 01:53:36 PM »
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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 08:22 PM
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6. No guts, no life, it's all he's got

WOW! First time I've heard O'Bummer described in this way at the DUmp!.....oh wait!
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