Twix candy bar primitive describes who's hurting from Bo's unemployment

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7379907

Oh my.

The Twix candy bar primitive:

TwixVoy  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 04:22 PM
#20 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Original message

Want to know who is really suffering from unemployment?

Here is a NY Times interactive chart. Customize it anyway you want to see what demographic is hurting more than others. Looks like black males, with no high school, age 15-24 is the highest demographic at nearly 50% unemployment.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/06/business/...

timeforpeace (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
 
1. What jobs are best for black males, with no high school, age 15-24?

Liberal_in_LA  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
 
2. same as jobs for white males with no HS, age 15-24

timeforpeace (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
 
3. Suggests that this demographic has had the highest unemployment rate all along and this "info" is neither informative nor relevant.

But it's from the New York Times.

Learning Nomad (45 posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
 
7. The question isn't what jobs are best, but what is available and what are they willing to work at? Few people get to work at what jobs are best for them.

timeforpeace (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 05:14 PM
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8. If we are a caring society we must provide the best jobs for this demographic to solve this problem.

The time to eat primitive is stoned, I bet.

Learning Nomad (45 posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
 
11. Non-sequitor. A caring society provides jobs, not the best jobs

timeforpeace (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #11
 
14. For the unemployed aged 15-24, the best job is a job, would you not agree?

barbtries  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 04:42 PM
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4. i don't get why they would put 15-24 year-olds in one demographic. 15-18 year-olds should still be in school. unfortunately i rather doubt that cleaning that up would help.

timeforpeace (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
 
9. Otherwise you wouldn't get the emotional reaction to the numbers that the Times desires.

dkf  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #4
 
12. These are people who don't get their high school degrees.

So if they are dropouts they do kind of fit into the group that needs to find a job.

hfojvt  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 06:45 PM
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13. it doesn't matter you are only counted as unemployed if you are looking for work and unable to find work. Hence, if you are 16 and not looking for work because you are busy enough with school, then you would not be counted as unemployed.

However, an unemployed teenage might feel bored and broke, but he/she's probably not homeless or hungry in many cases. At least I never was when I couldn't find a real job between the ages of 17 and 22.

Kaleva  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 04:44 PM
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5. Is it the rich people?

LARED (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 04:46 PM
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6. The trend and shape of the curve is actually pretty consistent by demographic. Meaning your demographic has had only a marginal impact on your change of employability.

anonymous171  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 05:16 PM
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10. Young people everywhere are struggling with unemployment

All the older people took the kid jobs after they got laid off.

Lorien  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #10
 
15. And those over age 45 are being laid off and replaced with kids out of college because the middle aged cost more to insure and the young will take very low wages. In the end both are getting screwed.

[GOBUCKS]

I don't believe that statistic for a second. Black male high school dropouts ages 15-24 cannot possibly have a 50% unemployment rate. Far more of them than that are working in license plate factories, an industry that has been immune from outsourcing.

[The Village Idiot]

Learning Nomad (45 posts)      Sat Jan-02-10 06:18 PM
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11. Non-sequitor. A caring society provides jobs, not the best jobs

Dig those holes. Fill those holes. Here's your gruel and slop! Now to the bunkhouse, you're coming back at 6AM!

Its a caring society.

[Tucker]

I don't believe that statistic for a second. Black male high school dropouts ages 15-24 cannot possibly have a 50% unemployment rate. Far more of them than that are working in license plate factories, an industry that has been immune from outsourcing.

At .25 a day with medical, food and lodging provided.

Detroit has a 22% graduation rate. Solution. Give the union teachers a raise.