cali primitive worried about Massachusetts Senate race

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7379450

Oh my.

But given the stranglehold Democrat corruption has on the commonwealth, I suspect it's a whole lot of worrying about a whole lot of nothing.

cali  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 02:57 PM
THE BITTER OLD VERMONTESE CALI PRIMITIVE
Original message
 
Maybe it's crazy but I'm worried about the MA Senate race (Jan 19)

I think voters are in a very contrary mood and Brown strikes me as a very slick candidate. There don't seem to be any polls, but I have a feeling this race may be closer than we'd like.

Yuugal  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:01 PM
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1. If the dem loses.... 

....it might be the best thing that could happen to the party as a whole. Perhaps the dems might realize "more of the same corporate crap" isn't what we meant when we asked for change.

cali  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:02 PM\
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2. If the dems lose, it's bad news for the party and the people.

If they lose it tells us that Repubs may well be in control of everything but the Executive wing come next January. Losing doesn't make parties better.

Now, why would the Democrats lose?

I thought Benito Bo was taking care of everything.

mitchtv  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:05 PM
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3. it made the GOP wake up

someone needs to SLAP the Dems across the face and wake them up

cali  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:06 PM
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5. really? when?

Again, more of this primitive delusion that one has to move further left, to win elections:

Yuugal  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:05 PM
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4. needless to say, I disagree 

We have a party in a tailspin because they refuse to dance with the one that brung them. If they lost a high profile race it might shut up all the people who keep screaming at us progressives that we are the problem and might make them actually start to tap the 40 zillion metric tons of dry powder they've accumulated over the last 3 years.

Unless.....change is still "off the table".

cali  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:07 PM
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6. Who brought them? A broad coalition of voters, that's who

Yuugal  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:12 PM
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8. A coalition who demanded change and instead..... 

....got the same corporatism they soundly rejected last go around. It was no mystery what people wanted after 8 years of Bushco giving away the store for wars and corporate greed. People really believed the dems when they insisted things would be different but after 3 years of everything we hoped for being "off the table" and 3trillion more reasons given in bailouts to the rich in the last year(while doing jack squat to create jobs), I'd say many young voters, many independent voters, and a huge pile of progressives voters.....will be looking for something good on tv that day rather than vote for more of the same. "We are slightly better" just isn't a winning strategy.

cali  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:15 PM
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10. change is a vague concept that means different things to different people

first of all, look at the American electorate, it's highly persuadable at any given time. And did the majority of people who voted for Obama vote for him on an anti-corporate basis?

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:10 PM
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7. Oh yeah? The people who brung 'em aren't the far left of the party. 

Not at all. You folks are confused about who elected Obama. Very confused. I saw who did it while watching a polling place, and you're all way off base.

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:16 PM
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Response to Reply #9

11. tut tut tut, dear. and curb the paranoia. No one is trying to get rid of you.

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:21 PM
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12. Your opinion. My opinion. That's a discussion. 

Your nasty comment? Not so much.

Yuugal  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:29 PM
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13. You started it by implying I must be a "confused" person because I disagree with you. Expect that response on election day too if things keep going the way they are with "our" party......which is only our party when the DLC needs people to help elect their corporate stooges and is never our party after the elections. At that point we are always told to **** off until the next election.

Some of us brought people to the polls too, gave out of our food money in the mistaken belief that someone actually might give a shit about us, and ruined any credibility we will ever have with the young people we convinced to vote for Mr McHopeNChange and deeply resent the treatment we get from "our" party every time we ask where the beef is.

[Carl]

Obama voters...

[BEG]

I am beginning to think Cali is a mole.

On a different note, I noticed something on my FB account.  I have quite a few moonbats on my FB. One in particular drives me nuts. I am "friends" with her only because she has the same auto-immune disease I have. She also wrote a book about it which I personally thought was one if the most depressing and poorly written books I have ever read. She was not nice about her family (I'm not talking just one or two people but her whole family, including her in-laws) and in general the whole book was hugely negative. If I was a newly diagnosed person it would have depressed the hell out of me. BUT I digress......

She is/was a total Obama supporter. So much so that she and I got in a huge argument before the election and she defriended me. She was back being my friend not too long after defriending me but made passive aggressive comments about people who do not agree with her political views.  Anyway, I noticed under political views she had listed: Obama...what have you done for me lately. Makes me wonder what her DU name is.   

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

... Obama...what have you done for me lately.    

Such people do not deserve, and could not keep, their own freedom.

[BEG]

Such people do not deserve, and could not keep, their own freedom.

I know. Ultimately that is the difference between people like her and people like us.  They really don't care (although they pretend otherwise) about other people, they just want the government to give to them. They feel entitled. Where we just want the government to leave us the hell alone.  Someone like her would never get how repulsive her comment really is.  It wouldn't be worth it to even try. My brother thinks the same way.   

[crockspot]

I am beginning to think Cali is a mole.

On a different note, I noticed something on my FB account.  I have quite a few moonbats on my FB. One in particular drives me nuts. I am "friends" with her only because she has the same auto-immune disease I have. She also wrote a book about it which I personally thought was one if the most depressing and poorly written books I have ever read. She was not nice about her family (I'm not talking just one or two people but her whole family, including her in-laws) and in general the whole book was hugely negative. If I was a newly diagnosed person it would have depressed the hell out of me. BUT I digress......

She is/was a total Obama supporter. So much so that she and I got in a huge argument before the election and she defriended me. She was back being my friend not too long after defriending me but made passive aggressive comments about people who do not agree with her political views.  Anyway, I noticed under political views she had listed: Obama...what have you done for me lately. Makes me wonder what her DU name is.   

Haha, my FB friends list is chock full of moonbats. A few have tried to get my goat, but my goat ain't that easy. lol

[BEG]

Haha, my FB friends list is chock full of moonbats. A few have tried to get my goat, but my goat ain't that easy. lol

Well I have to take some blame for the fight. She was having a back and forth fight with a friend about Obama. I noticed she had a picture of an acorn (or a squirrel I can't remember) as her avatar and I couldn't help myself. I had to make a smart ass comment about Acorn and Obama (and this was long before all the crap came out about Acorn this last year).  She went friggen nuts. Defriended me, sent me message after message about how I'm an evil capitalist, I'm racist...blah blah blah.
  

[Oceander]

Funny, seems to me it was just yesterday that the king of the liberal Democrats - JFK - was preaching about "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."  The liberal Democratic refrain has fallen quite far from that acme-point if it now consists of "what has the government done for me today."

[franksolich]

Funny, seems to me it was just yesterday that the king of the liberal Democrats - JFK - was preaching about "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."  The liberal Democratic refrain has fallen quite far from that acme-point if it now consists of "what has the government done for me today."

That's always been one of the major dissonances of the primitives.

The primitives are always asking what we're giving them, rather than what the primitives are giving America.

[Oceander]

That's always been one of the major dissonances of the primitives.

The primitives are always asking what we're giving them, rather than what the primitives are giving America.

And yet, they expect everyone else to be dragooned into indentured servitude to the State in order to provide those free entitlements to them.

[The Village Idiot]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7379450
But given the stranglehold Democrat corruption has on the commonwealth, I suspect it's a whole lot of worrying about a whole lot of nothing.

Isn't that what DUers live for?

[miskie]

If, by chance, Coakley doesn't take Dead Ted's seat, it will be because of vote splitting brought about by the Libertarian candidate Joe Kennedy.

Not that Downtown Ayla Brown's Dad is a bad guy - but he is a Republican in Massachusetts- and is for the most part a political curiosity.

Anyway, Kennedy is first on the ballot, And, much to my surprise, I have seen nothing broadcast about it anywhere. Warning people of the false prophet, etc. -- I also figured he would be at the bottom of the Charles by now, courtesy of our friendly neighborhood SEIU thugs.