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Offline thundley4

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obama empties jail cells.
« on: December 30, 2009, 01:54:57 PM »
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babylonsister   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-30-09 11:53 AM
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Obama Quietly Changes U.S. Immigration Policy
   

Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 11:56 AM by babylonsister
Obama Quietly Changes U.S. Immigration Policy

by Edward Alden


SAN FRANCISCO - The Obama administration quietly announced last week that it would overturn one of the harsh immigration enforcement measures enacted by the Bush administration following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Beginning next month, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said, those who arrive in the United States fleeing torture or persecution abroad will no longer automatically be welcomed with handcuffs and months in a jail cell. Instead, many of those seeking protection will again be permitted to live freely in the country while their applications for permanent asylum are considered by an immigration judge.

The measure is the latest in a string of little-noticed initiatives by the Obama DHS to reconsider some of the most controversial enforcement policies of the past decade. The administration in August launched an overhaul of the immigration detention system, which had grown out of control as the number of detainees doubled in just five years to more than 440,000 annually. Some of those were simply lost in the system, while others fell ill and died due to poor medical care, and the administration has pledged to stop such abuses. That same month, it moved families out of the notorious T. Don Hutto immigrant detention facility in Texas, which had become a national disgrace after revelations that pregnant women and small children were being held there in prison-like conditions.

The administration has also largely halted workplace raids that resulted in jailing, deportation and even criminal charges for many unauthorized workers, and is focused instead on in-depth audits of companies suspected of hiring those workers. And DHS has curbed the authority of state and local police forces to demand immigration documents from anyone stopped for minor offenses like traffic violations, saying that such checks should be done only for those jailed on criminal charges, particularly for serious criminal offenses. To drive home the point, DHS in October stripped the notorious Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona of federal authority to make immigration-related arrests.

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http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/12/30-3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x102841

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Jamastiene   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-30-09 11:57 AM
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2. This is good. Maybe this will start to restore some of our reputation around the world
   
as a good place with good people. 

We have that reputation. That is why so many people want to come here, DUmmie.

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MidwestRick (386 posts)           Wed Dec-30-09 12:16 PM
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3. Wow
   
"And DHS has curbed the authority of state and local police forces to demand immigration documents from anyone stopped for minor offenses like traffic violations, saying that such checks should be done only for those jailed on criminal charges, particularly for serious criminal offenses."

Great. Come to the US illegally, and as long as you aren't arrested for some other crime, you are free to live here illegally. Brilliant.

What would you like on your tombstone?

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babylonsister   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-30-09 12:20 PM
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5. I see; you'd rather immigrants be treated as criminals for minor
   
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 12:21 PM by babylonsister
offenses. That's brilliant. I don't suppose there were any immigrants in your family either, or you wouldn't be so judgmental.

Are you an American Indian, per chance?

Hey whoreofbabylon, a minor offense still makes them a criminal.

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MidwestRick (386 posts)           Wed Dec-30-09 12:22 PM
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6. Yep.
   
If they are here illegally, they have no right to be here. It's pretty simple.

And no, none of my family broke any laws entering the country. Go figure.

Keep digging that grave.  The alert buttons are getting their workout.

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lunatica   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-30-09 12:35 PM
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10. THere are millions of generational Hispanic citizens of the US
   
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 12:37 PM by lunatic. You're OK with children being held in detention centers that are like prisons because in your mind they must be criminals?

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MidwestRick (386 posts)           Wed Dec-30-09 12:41 PM
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12. If they were brought here illegally
   
yes, keep them with the people that brought them, or return them to the country of their origin.

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shellgame26   (759 posts)             Wed Dec-30-09 01:30 PM
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17. Stop being Karl Rove's bitch
   
another wedge issue sucker! This is the one thing they know will divide the working class. dredge up your underlying racist reactions and make you feel justified for having those feelings.

It should unite the working class, but bleeding heart lefties want to ruin the country.

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MidwestRick (386 posts)           Wed Dec-30-09 02:27 PM
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19. Racist? ROFL
   
Nice strawman. Disagree with illegals in the US, one must be a racist. Gotcha.


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Re: obama empties jail cells.
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 02:04:14 PM »
DUmmies only want laws they agree with enforced.  The rest of the laws are just a nuisance.

Wait until one of these 'immigrants' brings in a bomb and gets to use it with all the free time he has on his hands. 

Good Lord those people are complete idiots. 

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Re: obama empties jail cells.
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 02:13:07 PM »
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babylonsister   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-30-09 12:20 PM
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5. I see; you'd rather immigrants be treated as criminals for minor
 offenses.

No you effin moron I want them treated as criminals for the major offense of entering this country illegally.
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Re: obama empties jail cells.
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 02:17:36 PM »
I'm not sure that DUmmies (or any other Democrats/liberals for that matter) really understand what the word "reputation" means - being known for being lower than a prostitute (because even prostitutes get paid for it, but we no longer do) is not the same thing as a "good reputation."

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 02:19:27 PM »
The USA is a horrible place.  Why would anyone want to come here?  Especially if that action will turn them into illegal criminals?  What the heck could the attraction be to take such desperate chances?  And aren't we doing these fools a great service by getting them out of this hellhole ASAP?  I mean, really!  The USA is the only non-holy place on earth.  It has white people in it, for gawd's sake.  It ain't a socialist paradise.  It isn't an enlightened secular haven.  Why would anyone want to risk coming here - legally or illegally?  What is the deal?  What? What?  WHAT???

Arresting the poor unsuspecting fools who find themselves here accidentally "illegally" in order to send them back to from where they came is an act of pure humanitarian goodness.  I cannot imagine any compassionate caring person who would stand in the way of any effort to deport a pure and innocent soul out of this crappy unfair pit of muck and horrid despair.  How mean can the Little Goons get?

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Re: obama empties jail cells.
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 03:16:42 PM »
DUmmies only want laws they agree with enforced.  The rest of the laws are just a nuisance.

Wait until one of these 'immigrants' brings in a bomb and gets to use it with all the free time he has on his hands. 

Good Lord those people are complete idiots. 

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The effers will still say they are angry at Bush and need to be understood.

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Re: obama empties jail cells.
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 03:26:48 PM »

Hey, lets let all the criminals go and the whole world will love us even more.

They can even run for Congress. Like that would change anything.

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Re: obama empties jail cells.
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 03:40:16 PM »
The USA is a horrible place.  Why would anyone want to come here?  Especially if that action will turn them into illegal criminals?  What the heck could the attraction be to take such desperate chances?  And aren't we doing these fools a great service by getting them out of this hellhole ASAP?  I mean, really!  The USA is the only non-holy place on earth.  It has white people in it, for gawd's sake.  It ain't a socialist paradise.  It isn't an enlightened secular haven.  Why would anyone want to risk coming here - legally or illegally?  What is the deal?  What? What?  WHAT???

Arresting the poor unsuspecting fools who find themselves here accidentally "illegally" in order to send them back to from where they came is an act of pure humanitarian goodness.  I cannot imagine any compassionate caring person who would stand in the way of any effort to deport a pure and innocent soul out of this crappy unfair pit of muck and horrid despair.  How mean can the Little Goons get?

Yes, it's a horrible place. I'm only staying for the excitement....to come.
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Re: obama empties jail cells.
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 01:54:48 AM »
O'Bummer is trying to get them to stay long enough for him to grant them amnesty. After all with this "Bummer" economy, many of them are going back home. He needs enough to stay in order to assure his next election. ACORN can only guarantee so many votes!
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