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Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« on: December 28, 2009, 10:01:13 PM »
Last Thursday, December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order "Amending Executive Order 12425." It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.

By removing language from President Reagan's 1983 Executive Order 12425, this international law enforcement body now operates on American soil beyond the reach of our own top law enforcement arm, the FBI, and is immune from Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

Section 2c of the United States International Organizations Immunities Act reads:

    Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable. (Emphasis added.)

Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens' Freedom of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative discovery.  Property and assets being immune from search and confiscation means precisely that. Wherever they may be in the United States. This could conceivably include human assets - Americans arrested on our soil by INTERPOL officers.

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You just can't make up how brazen this crowd is. One week ago, President Obama quietly signed an executive order that makes an international police force immune from the restraints of American law.

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2009, 10:19:38 PM »
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2009, 10:22:16 PM »
Lord Zero needs somewhere to keep his birth certificate and college records safe from prying eyes.  :-)

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2009, 12:10:31 AM »
Why would he reverse something Reagan did...what information does Interpol have that Obama doesn't want leaked?

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2009, 04:03:40 AM »
Why would he reverse something Reagan did...what information does Interpol have that Obama doesn't want leaked?

Information on all the enemies of 'socialism'....in other words, they're here to spy on all of Obama's and the democrats enemies....me and you.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2009, 04:20:27 AM »
Information on all the enemies of 'socialism'....in other words, they're here to spy on all of Obama's and the democrats enemies....me and you.
And they can arrest Americans for things that are not currently crimes on American soil.
This could seriously pave the way for Saudis to arrest and remove from America people who convert away from islam...or people who have images of Mohamed on their computers.
The EU could arrest US soldiers for trial and take them to Europe.
The UN can arrest Americans for free speech crimes on behalf of 3rd world despots.

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2009, 04:41:09 AM »
And they can arrest Americans for things that are not currently crimes on American soil.
This could seriously pave the way for Saudis to arrest and remove from America people who convert away from islam...or people who have images of Mohamed on their computers.
The EU could arrest US soldiers for trial and take them to Europe.
The UN can arrest Americans for free speech crimes on behalf of 3rd world despots.

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2009, 06:30:03 AM »
But CIA officers, Predator drone pilots and US SOCOM personnel acting on his orders have no guarantees they won't be charged with crimes or handed over to international bodies with whom we have no ratified treaties.

FYI - Many of the UN/leftard internationalist set consider commando ops against terrorists to be extra-judicial killings and Obama has remained silent rather than disabuse them of their fallacy.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2009, 06:48:19 AM »
Sorry, kids--overreaction time.  Interpol has no arrest authority.  They're an information clearinghouse, nothing more.  Jonn over at TAH explains it better than I could:

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As far as I can read it, it exempts their incomes from US taxation if they're foreign nationals, nothing more.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2009, 09:58:29 AM »
Seems innocent enough on its face, Sparky, but I just don't trust the bastard.

How much more surreptitious shit is he pulling, quietly and without fanfare?

He's the guy who firmly believes in the U.N. "one world, one government" horseshit (quotes are mine), so I can very well imagine some behind-the-scenes pen-waving that slowly, gradually, over time, chips away at our sovereignty.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2009, 02:11:17 PM »
It kinda makes you wonder if this Administration is setting it up so Foreign Powers can try President Bush and his Administration on War Crimes just my thoughts.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 02:26:39 PM »
From what I've been reading, Interpol used to be subject to FOIA, now they are not. That could free them up to carry out all sorts of information gathering activities with no possible repercussions. It sets them up to be the intel agency for Lord Zero's brownshirts.

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2009, 03:59:45 PM »
It kinda makes you wonder if this Administration is setting it up so Foreign Powers can try President Bush and his Administration on War Crimes just my thoughts.

If they want to go down that road, they had better be prepared to "reap the whirlwind" that will follow.  It will be bloody, and it will not end well for the Left.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2009, 04:12:30 PM »
FOIA never applied to Interpol (As distinct from any US participation in it) anyway, it only covers instrumentalities of the Federal government and nothing else.  However, this change does make their records immune from civil or criminal discovery, and also untouchable by search warrant.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2009, 04:30:21 PM »
If they want to go down that road, they had better be prepared to "reap the whirlwind" that will follow.  It will be bloody, and it will not end well for the Left.
I wonder just how powerful this Democrat Admin. has come to think they are after all the things they have done in the past month or so.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2009, 04:36:46 PM »
FOIA never applied to Interpol (As distinct from any US participation in it) anyway, it only covers instrumentalities of the Federal government and nothing else.  However, this change does make their records immune from civil or criminal discovery, and also untouchable by search warrant.

They operated through the DOJ, which effectively put them under FOIA.  They will still be operating under the DOJ, and that worries me given the way Holder has acted.

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2009, 04:52:50 PM »
They operated through the DOJ, which effectively put them under FOIA.  They will still be operating under the DOJ, and that worries me given the way Holder has acted.
I agree I think Holder is the most dangerous of all the people esp. in his position.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2009, 05:48:45 PM »
From what I've been reading, Interpol used to be subject to FOIA, now they are not. That could free them up to carry out all sorts of information gathering activities with no possible repercussions. It sets them up to be the intel agency for Lord Zero's brownshirts.

With an $80 million annual worldwide budget?  Not fricken likely.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2009, 06:10:03 PM »
With an $80 million annual worldwide budget?  Not fricken likely.

There is still a substantial chunk of the Porkulous Funding left.

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2009, 06:23:57 PM »
From what I have gathered, after listening to some of the talk shows, this won't hold up to Constitutional muster. In other words "Hoax and Chains" doesn't have the power he thinks he does with these presidential decrees.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2009, 06:41:45 PM »
From what I have gathered, after listening to some of the talk shows, this won't hold up to Constitutional muster. In other words "Hoax and Chains" doesn't have the power he thinks he does with these presidential decrees.

Remember the Clinton years and the words of Paul Begala..."Stroke of the pen, law of the land.  Pretty cool."

You think Obama is the first or only one?
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2009, 06:51:28 PM »
If they want to go down that road, they had better be prepared to "reap the whirlwind" that will follow.  It will be bloody, and it will not end well for the Left.

Crap Blue, looks like we are against a rock and a hard place here.

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I don't know if it is too late to turn this and time backward, to refuse to march into the river as Lemmings. Over the Cliff with sheep.

We no longer have the society that once was, a common goal, everyone  now seems to think they can indeed make it on their own with no responsibility to anyone but themselves.  

From where I sit at this time, I cannot find even one politician I would trust, so much for HOPE.

Outside of my own Faith, not one other I would trust, so much for Faith.

As to giving to Charity's when the President of that Charity is given a salary that is 1/4 the income, so much for Charity.

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2009, 10:22:07 PM »
Cold weather pretty much downed the Nazis during WWII. I think we are going to have to get into the mindset George Washington did at Valley Forge. Maybe your man wouldn't go out into the cold, but up here it is a way of life. I'd pack my powder and be out the door! We're going to get to the point where we have to make a choice. Freedom or Tyranny!

The Founding Fathers knew what decision to make. Will we have the same courage?

I wonder.
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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2009, 10:57:56 PM »
Cold weather pretty much downed the Nazis during WWII. I think we are going to have to get into the mindset George Washington did at Valley Forge. Maybe your man wouldn't go out into the cold, but up here it is a way of life. I'd pack my powder and be out the door! We're going to get to the point where we have to make a choice. Freedom or Tyranny!

The Founding Fathers knew what decision to make. Will we have the same courage?

I wonder.
Americans, in general, have gotten fat, lazy and complacent...so I doubt it.

Perhaps when we are standing in line for toilet paper, in the freezing cold (not me, I'm in Florida) will people actually organize a revolt.

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Re: Obama Gives Interpol Immunity from American Law
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2009, 12:12:59 AM »
Americans, in general, have gotten fat, lazy and complacent...so I doubt it.

Perhaps when we are standing in line for toilet paper, in the freezing cold (not me, I'm in Florida) will people actually organize a revolt.

I'm not so sure there will be much in the way of organization. Pretty much I think it will be more of an individual response on a massive scale. American Patriots are just that. The volume of those that have had enough individually will surprise the piss out of 'em! After that it may take on a snowball effect.
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