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[thundley4]

And many will. Some, like most of us who need our jobs, will be forced to continue practicing.

If enough doctors leave the profession, that will leave the remainder being overburdened.  That will also leave patients waiting much longer to be seen.  There are enough rich people in this country that they might start highering private doctors that are kept on retainer, much like lawyers.

[The Village Idiot]

If enough doctors leave the profession, that will leave the remainder being overburdened.  That will also leave patients waiting much longer to be seen.  There are enough rich people in this country that they might start highering private doctors that are kept on retainer, much like lawyers.

which will be made illegal. People will end up going to Bermuda or Panama for their private care.

[thundley4]

which will be made illegal. People will end up going to Bermuda or Panama for their private care.

If I were a doctor I might look forward to retiring to the Bahamas and treating only wealthy American clients.

[diesel driver]

But even then, many will decide to find alternative careers, particularly those that still have some working years left.  After all, if auto mechanics are going to have a per-hour rate that is significantly higher than that of doctors, we may all find that we have Cuban-style healthcare, but Indy-500 style auto repairs.

That will last until the government mandates that everyone get Indy-500 style auto care, all the while mandating the automakers produce Cuban-style autos....

Reagan had it right:  "Government isn't the solution to our problem.  Government IS the problem."

[VivisMom]

Then they all start declaring that the doc neeeds to make less..I am reading it saying to myself Efff you.
Who are they to dictate what anyone makes?

I would like to join that though and declare every DUmmy makes too much if they can afford Internet and needs to have less money.

No kidding. Apparently the DUmpmonkeys have no idea how much it costs to become an MD, let alone one with a specialty in something like cardiology.

Then again, these people probably get their medical advice solely off of the intarwebz. 

[USA4ME]

Agree...

But that will end once the gov't demands they treat medicaire patients or lose their license all together. It WILL happen.

I could see it being like a utility where a board of physicians petition for rate hikes.  Most doctors I know only have so many medicare patients they're willing to take at any one time anyway.  The gov't forcing a profession to do business with customers of which they don't want to do business will create problems in the "Law of Unintended Consequences" realm.

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[Karin]

But Vivismom, the SoCal airhead thinks that the burdens of an expensive education is not a valid arguement for a decent salary.  She ridicules it before it's even mentioned.  

SOCALS (136 posts)      Mon Dec-21-09 10:06 PM
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38. Wait for people to start saying
 that doctors have to study for 12 years and... take loans to pay for education! Of course it justifies ripping off working Americans

[Oceander]

That will last until the government mandates that everyone get Indy-500 style auto care, all the while mandating the automakers produce Cuban-style autos....

Reagan had it right:  "Government isn't the solution to our problem.  Government IS the problem."

You'll get no argument from me on that point.

[Oceander]

I could see it being like a utility where a board of physicians petition for rate hikes.  Most doctors I know only have so many medicare patients they're willing to take at any one time anyway.  The gov't forcing a profession to do business with customers of which they don't want to do business will create problems in the "Law of Unintended Consequences" realm.

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At some point it also devolves into indentured servitude, or more bluntly, slavery.

[Texacon]

But Vivismom, the SoCal airhead thinks that the burdens of an expensive education is not a valid arguement for a decent salary.  She ridicules it before it's even mentioned.  

This from the same group of people constantly crying that they can't find a 'decent' job due to being 'over educated'.  This group won't take a job flipping burgers because it doesn't pay what their credentials warrant.

Go figure.

KC

[VivisMom]

But Vivismom, the SoCal airhead thinks that the burdens of an expensive education is not a valid arguement for a decent salary.  She ridicules it before it's even mentioned.  

OMG those kind of people piss me off to no end.

Bob wants to be a doctor. Bob goes to a nationally ranked, non-Ivy private school, and with no scholarships ends up graduating in four years with approximately 110K in debt. He applies to a number of medical schools, and ends up at a private medical school because it was cheaper than paying out of state tuition at a state school. In four years, he accrues 250K more in debt. After he graduates, he does a residency in cardiology (3 years) and then a fellowship (4 years.) Then he takes his final boards and is able to go into a private practice. He's accrued more than 360K in debt, and now has to pay 50K a year in malpractice insurance.

I'm sorry, but the people who dismiss the fact that medical school is expensive, and that being a doctor is hard, by saying they don't deserve what they earn are ****tards of the highest degree. Many doctors have loads of debt-especially the young ones, fresh out of school. As far as I am concerned, those doctors deserve every penny they earn.

I have a friend who was a GP in a private practice, and she was barely making enough to cover her living expenses-and she didn't live in a huge house or drive a Benz. Now she has a good job at a teaching hospital, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't consider herself rich or wealthy by and standard because she has a ton of debt to pay off.

SoCal, if you are reading this, FOAD. 

[Karin]

They will FOAD, (and so will we) when there's no doctor to see them.  Who the hell would go to medical school now?  There are so many other things you could do with your brilliance that may pay far handsomer. 

[VivisMom]

I'm going to tell my kid to run for Congress...no work, no term limits, good benefits and good pay. Hell, any moron can be a Congressman-Al Franken did it!

[Texacon]

I'm going to tell my kid to run for Congress...no work, no term limits, good benefits and good pay. Hell, any moron can be a Congressman-Al Franken did it!

H5!

LIFE TIME benefits.

KC

PS to add to your list of morons;

Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Chucky Schumer
Henry Waxman
Dianne Feinstein ....