DUmmies Discuss The Copenhagen Gorescam

[GOBUCKS]

Canuckistanian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:29 PM
Original message
Copenhagen is an absolute ****ing disaster
The final draft is still being written, but it looks like a total WASTE of time.

There are no clearly defined targets. EVERYTHING is voluntary. Developing countries are furious. The US again failed to show leadership.

And Canada, my country, was judged as one of the WORST offenders for total inaction and the insistence on developing the oilsands petroleum hellhole.

Already, environmental groups are calling it "Copenfailure".

I can't tell you how bitterly disappointed I am. I weep for humanity.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7268368

So maybe, just maybe, somewhere out of view, behind the scenes, there are a few grownups trying to defend the economy of the free world against this crazy gorescam. Our peril is that none of these grownups are in the executive branch of the U.S. government.

 

Deja Q  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:30 PM
Response to Original message
1. Even developed countries are furious.

No, only the moonbats in developed countries, like, say, Prince Charles, and Canuckistan.

Canuckistanian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:35 PM
5. Unrecs don't bother me tonight
It's easy to pay someone to disrupt a discussion board.

Hell, it's cheaper than buying your average politician.

At $8/unrec, it isn't that much cheaper. This is a better gig than the careers they advertise on matchbooks and utility poles.

Why Syzygy  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:38 PM
Response to Original message
8. Oh no!
Just wait and see. We'll get a new 2% VAT or sales tax! The IMF bank will be pleased!

Isn't that what really matters?  

 

Canuckistanian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:45 PM
10. WTF are you talking about?
NOTHING is going to happen. Did you not get the "gist" of my message?
Carry on with your life, citizen. There's a sale on Hummers this week! Consume! Nothing's wrong!

Hissyspit  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:41 PM
9. We're screwed.  
No surprise.

Gregorian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:45 PM
11. Give it a little time. When snorkle sales go up, people will begin to get serious.  
How much is the New Orleans price tag for repairs? How many more of them will we experience, and how many more will the planet see?

By the way, in case anyone is interested, humans are putting out 100 times the CO2 output of all volcanoes on the planet right now.

There's that word again! And as far as NOLA is concerned, I thought W killed that damn town. What's this "repair" business?

ThomCat  (1000+ posts)      Fri Dec-18-09 10:50 PM
14. Voluntary ****ing Targets!
Which means that none of the damned targets will be met anyway because nobody has to meet them.

What a ****ing bad Joke.

It really sucks that there really isn't any way to hold politicians and government lackies accountable for the bullshit, incompetence, and lack of progress they force all of us to live with.

It is enough to make me really wish there was a God sometimes, and that he or she might really answer just prayers, if only so that there might be a way for all the powerless people of the world to get real justice in the end.

It's an appealing fantasy. Having to live in a world where the Powerful thrive and profit while never taking any responsibility for solving the problems they create is endlessly galling.  

DUmmies want the power plants shut down. No nukes, no coal, no electricity, no hydro. They tried with the "acid rain" scam, but it didn't take. People finally figured out those dead trees were killed by gypsy moths, not "acid rain". Now they want to do it with the gorescam. Wait til they find out that will cause their grow lights to go out. The democrat base depends on grow lights.
 

Canuckistanian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. They can't even agree on an extension to Kyoto
And we all know what a big success THAT was.

??I thought Kyoto was Algore's crowning achievement.??

mullard12ax7 (476 posts)      Fri Dec-18-09 10:50 PM
Response to Original message
15. I had to tune into Russian and French TV just to hear news about it
The U.S. whore media is all upset over a golfer when the entire planets future is on the line.

Some of these moonbats actually believe that!
(By the way, has the bimbo count gone over 14? What's the over/under?)

Canuckistanian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. It's fast becoming our national shame
We used to be leaders in environmental issues. We've now become the main problem.

What makes it hard is that in terms of public opinion, we're totally in agreement with major changes.

Unfortunately, it's our ****ing Conservative Harper government that's calling the shots right now.

God, I hate them.

Pretty sad when we have to have our ass saved by the socialist Canadians.  


So, what does the dumbest person on all the internets think about this situation?

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 11:03 PM
Response to Original message
21. We're so screwed.

DUmmy Gregorian is in a depressed state of panic:

Gregorian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 11:35 PM
30. Big changes would require sacrifices nobody is willing to make.  
Anyone who understands the full extent of carbon emissions by modern societies knows that we cannot make a dent in emissions without serious sacrifices. And one of those is untouchable. Unmentionable. No one will even discuss it. Population must decrease. That is first and foremost. And it most likely wasn't even mentioned at the summit.

We're in deep trouble. I posted engine manufacturing plant videos from World War 2 factories some time ago. Just that period of our history caused monstrous emissions. The Berlin airlift? It had to be done. But the emissions? Good god! A billion gallons of fuel for the Iraq war a year ago, was what I calculated.

Every trip to the market in 1950. Every yo-yo ever produced. Every movie production crew and transportation. Every dental device being manufactured and transported. Every cubic yard of cement mined and refined.

It's mind boggling. And if the population were small enough it wouldn't be overwhelming the planet. But in combination it's the end of the ecosystem.

I can't even communicate it. But as long as we're burning fuel to do stuff for us, and this many of us are doing it, then we're in trouble. And two billion people are just joining the club. It's going to get worse before anything happens to make it better. I don't have much hope.  

DUmmy Gregorian should do his small part to solve the overpopulation problem by joining Skidmore and ladyhawke in a suicide pact. If he truly believes that drivel, then it isn't worth living, is it?

[I_B_Perky]

This climate change crap has been going on for well over a hundred years and surprise! the earth and us are still here.

We're all gonna die!

[Lord Undies]

Remember being told about the Orson Welles 1930's radio broadcast called "War Of The Worlds"?  This "Global Warming broadcast" is just like that only longer, wider, less believable, not as polished, and aired with sinister intentions.

Copenhagen, like Kyoto before it, was based on the ultimately silly Star Trek conventions.  It hosts a bunch of like-minded people entertaining their fantasies about a world they wish existed, because if it did exist, their fantasy of socialist control would be validated and To Serve Man really could be a cookbook.     

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Yes, DUmmies, the earth is hereby, irrevocably condemned to a slow boiling Hell.

Best to kill yourselves now to spare yourselves the unholy anguish sure to come.

[diesel driver]

Gregorian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 11:35 PM
30. Big changes would require sacrifices nobody is willing to make. 
Anyone who understands the full extent of carbon emissions by modern societies knows that we cannot make a dent in emissions without serious sacrifices. And one of those is untouchable. Unmentionable. No one will even discuss it. Population must decrease. That is first and foremost. And it most likely wasn't even mentioned at the summit.

That's what wars are for.  Oh, wait!  Silly me, you oppose war.  In that case, lead by example:  take yourself out....

We're in deep trouble. I posted engine manufacturing plant videos from World War 2 factories some time ago. Just that period of our history caused monstrous emissions. The Berlin airlift? It had to be done. But the emissions? Good god! A billion gallons of fuel for the Iraq war a year ago, was what I calculated.

I guess they don't make engines anymore, so you had to post videos from WWII factories? 
The world uses about 80 million barrels of oil a day.  That's over 3.35 billion gallons.  If we have used only a billion gallons in 5 years fighting a war, while at the same time the world has used about 6 trillion gallons of oil, then we have used approximately .01% of the total oil consumed in the world fighting the war.

Every trip to the market in 1950. Every yo-yo ever produced. Every movie production crew and transportation. Every dental device being manufactured and transported. Every cubic yard of cement mined and refined.

What's so special about 1950?   
What do you have against dental devices and cement? 

It's mind boggling. And if the population were small enough it wouldn't be overwhelming the planet. But in combination it's the end of the ecosystem.

I can't even communicate it. But as long as we're burning fuel to do stuff for us, and this many of us are doing it, then we're in trouble. And two billion people are just joining the club. It's going to get worse before anything happens to make it better. I don't have much hope.

Oh, I misread that last word.  You said "HOPE".  I thought you said "DOPE".  Silly me.   
Mankind's TOTAL contribution to atmospheric CO2 is less than 3%.  The oceans contribute 50 times what we do. 
But you and your fellow DUmmies can help save the planet and reduce CO2 being added to the air.
Stop breathing, kill yourselves, only don't decompose, because that would put the carbon in your bodies back into the air, and that ain't good....

[The Village Idiot]

I saw someone using the figure 0.117% of CO2 coming from man. Did they mean farts and burps? heh

[Oceander]

It's mind boggling. And if the population were small enough it wouldn't be overwhelming the planet. But in combination it's the end of the ecosystem.

Then do us all a favor, help make the population smaller.  Here's a loaded pistol,

take it, tuck the business end (that would be the round end, with the little hole in it) up snuggly under your chin, and pull the trigger, please.

[kenth]

We're in deep trouble. I posted engine manufacturing plant videos from World War 2 factories some time ago. Just that period of our history caused monstrous emissions. The Berlin airlift? It had to be done. But the emissions? Good god! A billion gallons of fuel for the Iraq war a year ago, was what I calculated.

Every trip to the market in 1950. Every yo-yo ever produced. Every movie production crew and transportation. Every dental device being manufactured and transported. Every cubic yard of cement mined and refined.

Every computer manufactured. Every internet connection. Every pc power connection. Every silly missive typed...

Oh, nevermind.

[Chris_]

Remember being told about the Orson Welles 1930's radio broadcast called "War Of The Worlds"?  This "Global Warming broadcast" is just like that only longer, wider, less believable, not as polished, and aired with sinister intentions.

Copenhagen, like Kyoto before it, was based on the ultimately silly Star Trek conventions.  It hosts a bunch of like-minded people entertaining their fantasies about a world they wish existed, because if it did exist, their fantasy of socialist control would be validated and To Serve Man really could be a cookbook.     

I went to a Star Trek convention once. From what I've seen it was much more in touch with reality than the Copenhagen shindig.

[diesel driver]

I saw someone using the figure 0.117% of CO2 coming from man. Did they mean farts and burps? heh

Probably burps....

You have to burn the farts for the CO2....   

[diesel driver]

Canuckistanian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:29 PM
Original message
Copenhagen is an absolute ******* disaster
The final draft is still being written, but it looks like a total WASTE of time.

There are no clearly defined targets. EVERYTHING is voluntary. Developing countries are furious. The US again failed to show leadership.

And Canada, my country, was judged as one of the WORST offenders for total inaction and the insistence on developing the oilsands petroleum hellhole.

Already, environmental groups are calling it "Copenfailure".

I can't tell you how bitterly disappointed I am. I weep for humanity.

I've heard it referred to as "Dopenhagen".
All this convention attracted was DUmmies, Commies and Zero....  (Oh, my!)   

[Carl]

WTF do these idiots want?
Do they truly wish mankind back to the stone age?

[Lord Undies]

I weep for humanity.

Using "weep" helps a Little Goon think he's a Shakespeare.  

[diesel driver]

WTF do these idiots want?
Do they truly wish mankind back to the stone age?

I think it goes farther than that....
They want us (all mankind) GONE!

It's for the good of the earth, don't you know....

[Oceander]

I went to a Star Trek convention once. From what I've seen it was much more in touch with reality than the Copenhagen shindig.

[zeitgeist]

I've heard it referred to as "Dopenhagen".
All this convention attracted was DUmmies, Commies and Zero....  (Oh, my!)   

Hash an hookers on the public dime?  Never!!  This was serius.

[GOBUCKS]

WTF do these idiots want?
Do they truly wish mankind back to the stone age?

No. They only want to shut down American free enterprise. Ringleaders, like Gore and the phony scientists, see an opportunity for huge personal gain from all the bogus industries that would suck up public funds. The huge majority of the rank and file just want to shut down America. There is a significant number of the gorescam foot soldiers who are simply morons, who think the ocean is coming to Charlotte. In ways this is so similar to the Y2K scam it's spooky.

[The Village Idiot]

I went to a Star Trek convention once. From what I've seen it was much more in touch with reality than the Copenhagen shindig.

I went to one scifi convention too. In Pasadena California. There were actual Klingons there, heh. It was actually pretty cool and I got to see some of Trek actors in the flesh, including the beautiful Nicole deBoer ..... who was my favorite back then... *drool*

Yes, they were much more in touch with reality than he DUmmies. There was a copious amount of capitalism going on there too! Not just by the Ferengi either.

[BlueStateSaint]

I think it goes farther than that....
They want us (all mankind) GONE!

Not all mankind--they want to stay, to "keep Mother Earth in balance."

[Carl]

Not all mankind--they want to stay, to "keep Mother Earth in balance."

I know it is a rhetorical question but can they really be deluded enough to think they would be left intact and their lives would not be affected?

Stupid fux.

[Chris_]

Gregorian  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 10:45 PM
11. Give it a little time. When snorkle sales go up, people will begin to get serious. 
How much is the New Orleans price tag for repairs? How many more of them will we experience, and how many more will the planet see?

By the way, in case anyone is interested, humans are putting out 100 times the CO2 output of all volcanoes on the planet right now.

Horse Shit   

[Chris_]

Horse Shit   

He misspoke, but you are close to what he meant to say. When you feed his post into the VRWC DUmmie-to-English translator it reads:
By the way, in case anyone is interested, DUers are putting out 100 times the excrement output of all bovines and equines on the planet right now.

[The Village Idiot]

Horse Shit   

A single major eruption will spew more crap than mankind has in history. Noticed he wrote "right now" no major eruptions.

[BlueStateSaint]

I know it is a rhetorical question but can they really be deluded enough to think they would be left intact and their lives would not be affected?

Carl, Carl, Carl . . . I'm disappointed in you, neighbor.   

The short answer is:  Yes.

[Carl]

Carl, Carl, Carl . . . I'm disappointed in you, neighbor.   

The short answer is:  Yes.

It is just something I can`t wrap my mind around.
They will go on and on about imported goods and that it all should be made here.
Then they will say that every job should be a union job.
Still they think under that scenario they will buy the computer they type away at for the same price as they do now.

The complete disconnect with any form of reality is jaw dropping.