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NEWT & friends buy ad in Danish paper and fire a shot across BO's bow
« on: December 16, 2009, 06:06:07 PM »
A group of American rightwingers led by the former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is to fire a shot across President Obama's bows with a full-page advert  in a Danish newspaper warning him not to make carbon commitments he cannot live up to at the Copenhagen summit.

Mr Obama is flying into the UN summit on Friday and has already offered to cut US CO2 emissions by 17 per cent on 2005 levels by 2020 — although other developed nations which started cutting their emissions under the Kyoto Protocol use a more testing 1990 baseline and are demanding more.

Mr Gingrich's American Solutions group has booked space in the English-language Copenhagen Post tomorrow and on Friday to insist that the President would need the approval of Senate to raitify any agreement despite the recent decision by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) that CO2 and other greenhouse gases represented a health risk.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6958591.ece


Hi,

Way to go Newt. 

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Re: NEWT & friends buy ad in Danish paper and fire a shot across BO's bow
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 06:17:17 PM »
I love it.
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Re: NEWT & friends buy ad in Danish paper and fire a shot across BO's bow
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 06:22:23 PM »
That's going to leave a mark! :lmao:

Good job Newt.  Maybe things are starting to sink in.
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Re: NEWT & friends buy ad in Danish paper and fire a shot across BO's bow
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 07:45:26 PM »
WONDERFUL
yes- that is what it says---
WE THE PEOPLE
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Re: NEWT & friends buy ad in Danish paper and fire a shot across BO's bow
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 07:46:36 AM »
Yes, well done Newt.  :bow:

I do think he's having a bit of a pipe dream though, if he thinks he can do anything to influence Lisa Jackson's (EPA) ruling.

This is a problem we have today - those Executive Branch Administrators (there's about 140 of them), they can make the law by decree! Just like Lisa Jackson is doing, and it's all perfectly legal, because Congress "re-delegated" them the authority to do that!

I look at it this way: we gave Congress a "power of attorney" to represent us - they are the only branch of government that's supposed to actually make law.

And they, in turn, have "re-delegated" much of that power to the Executive Branch! It's Congress's fault, not the President's. The Prez just does his job, but it's really Congress's job. That is a lot of power to put into one man's hands - but the worst part of it is, it's not really IN his hands, because in theory he doesn't have jurisdiction over the decisions of the administrators! (In practice he probably does, because they're political appointees, but i could give you several examples of one of the Administrators contravening the President's wishes and getting away with it).

Congress is very lazy, they don't even want to read their bills anymore. That was a nice move by Boehner, wasn't it? Wheeling in that entire bill on a dolly? lol!!!
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Re: NEWT & friends buy ad in Danish paper and fire a shot across BO's bow
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 03:22:33 PM »
Quote from: ballantine on December 17, 2009, 07:46:36 AM
Yes, well done Newt.  :bow:

I do think he's having a bit of a pipe dream though, if he thinks he can do anything to influence Lisa Jackson's (EPA) ruling.

This is a problem we have today - those Executive Branch Administrators (there's about 140 of them), they can make the law by decree! Just like Lisa Jackson is doing, and it's all perfectly legal, because Congress "re-delegated" them the authority to do that!

I look at it this way: we gave Congress a "power of attorney" to represent us - they are the only branch of government that's supposed to actually make law.

And they, in turn, have "re-delegated" much of that power to the Executive Branch! It's Congress's fault, not the President's. The Prez just does his job, but it's really Congress's job. That is a lot of power to put into one man's hands - but the worst part of it is, it's not really IN his hands, because in theory he doesn't have jurisdiction over the decisions of the administrators! (In practice he probably does, because they're political appointees, but i could give you several examples of one of the Administrators contravening the President's wishes and getting away with it).

Congress is very lazy, they don't even want to read their bills anymore. That was a nice move by Boehner, wasn't it? Wheeling in that entire bill on a dolly? lol!!!

Hi,

If I were running for congress I would take a stand on this issue and propose the following.

"No member of any branch of government can issue a regulation that will impact the economy by more than $500 million without prior congressional approval"

Plain and simple.  That will come to pass when the conservatives are in charge.

Sad thing is all you are doing is saying follow the Constituion stupid!

regards,
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