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numSlides of totalImages  A Taunton father is furious his eight-year-old son was sent home from school and required to undergo a psychological evaluation after he drew a stick-figure picture of Jesus Christ on the cross.

The father, who wants his name withheld to protect his son, told the Taunton Gazette he got a call earlier this month from the Maxham Elementary School.

They told him his son, a second-grader with special needs, had created a violent drawing.

It started when his teacher asked the class to sketch something that reminded them of Christmas.

The boy drew a crucified Jesus with X's covering his eyes to signify that he had died on the cross.

So where's the link to Christmas?

The boy drew the picture shortly after taking a trip with his family to see the Christmas display at the La Salette Shrine, a Christian retreat in Attleboro.

Maxham School principal Rebecca Couet would not comment. She referred all questions to the superintendent's office.

Superintendent Julie Hackett told the paper district policy prevents her from discussing a "confidential matter regarding a student."

The father says his son has no history of trouble or violence and is now traumatized. He wants him transferred to another elementary school in the district.

"I find the decision very disappointing," school committee member Christine Fagan told WBZ Radio Tuesday.

"But I think there's so much pressure now on people to look for all kinds of things. I think that's what generates these types of responses."

"Because someone makes a decision like that, that's not representative of the whole community," Fagan added.

"I think we really need to be careful about how far we want to take this idea of political correctness."


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Think Christ has something to do with Christmas?

Go home and get a psych evaluation!

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One of my friends got in trouble in elementary school for drawing an empty cave with a stone in front of it when he was supposed to draw a picture about Easter.  The teacher didn't want to give him credit for the assignment, because apparently he didn't "follow directions".  His mom pitched a fit, and he got credit for his drawing   :cheersmate:

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One of my friends got in trouble in elementary school for drawing an empty cave with a stone in front of it when he was supposed to draw a picture about Easter.  The teacher didn't want to give him credit for the assignment, because apparently he didn't "follow directions".  His mom pitched a fit, and he got credit for his drawing   :cheersmate:

Do you think the teacher  had a clue as to the meaning of that drawing?
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I really think a psychological evaluation is in order here.....for all the teachers and the school board.
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Do you think the teacher  had a clue as to the meaning of that drawing?

Apparently not. I think we need a new addition to the diversity courses, lol.

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I think that the way they treated this boy is another example of political correctness in overdrive, but I am amazed that they were even allowed to mention Christmas in a school.

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I really think a psychological evaluation is in order here.....for all the teachers and the school board.

Agreed. Same goes with all PC Nazis. They need a psych evaluation and the firing squad.  :evillaugh:
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"I think we really need to be careful about how far we want to take this idea of political correctness."

Really?  No shit?

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Massachusetts...big shock.
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 12:19:58 PM »
I'd hate to see what would have happened to the boy had he drawn "an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle"...
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 12:32:52 PM »
The reasons to home-school just keep piling up.  What number are we on now?  I keep losing track...
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 12:38:29 PM »
The reasons to home-school just keep piling up.  What number are we on now?  I keep losing track...

Just keep adding zeros:  you'll get into the right range soon enough.
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 01:09:42 PM »
You would think that in an area like Boston with a high percentage of Catholics....the teacher and school administrators would have been smarter than they appears to be....and just asked the child what the meaning of his drawing was.

I don't think I've ever been in a Catholic Church that doesn't have a crucifix at the front of the church....and since children are taught to keep their eyes front during Mass....duh...
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 02:11:06 PM »
You would think that in an area like Boston with a high percentage of Catholics....the teacher and school administrators would have been smarter than they appears to be....and just asked the child what the meaning of his drawing was.

I don't think I've ever been in a Catholic Church that doesn't have a crucifix at the front of the church....and since children are taught to keep their eyes front during Mass....duh...

Kennedy was a Catholic. IMHO, as a person with a Catholic priest in the family (Whom I greatly respect), I put little weight in anyone someone themselves Catholic. Catholic, and I think my uncle would agree, means 45 minutes on Sunday... and you leave your religion at the church.

I also believe that psychologists, counselors and therapists, in many ways, have helped destroy this society. Their insistence on make-work is complete crap.

Just my opinions..

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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 02:55:53 PM »
Another reason my children will never go to public schools.
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 03:12:57 PM »
Kennedy was a Catholic. IMHO, as a person with a Catholic priest in the family (Whom I greatly respect), I put little weight in anyone someone themselves Catholic. Catholic, and I think my uncle would agree, means 45 minutes on Sunday... and you leave your religion at the church.

I also believe that psychologists, counselors and therapists, in many ways, have helped destroy this society. Their insistence on make-work is complete crap.

Just my opinions..

Catholics are no different than most other Christian religions....many parishoners show up on Sunday to be seen and then gossip about each other. Which was one of the many issues I had with the Episcopal Church I attended here for years....it was a "who is wearing what, are their children behaving, who's giving how much money to the church, etc...."

My point was a child...asked to draw something about Christmas....drawing a crucifix....needs to be asked why? not accused of evil thoughts.

I'm Catholic. At Mass on Sunday...the only thing to represent the Christmas season in the sanctuary itself...was the Advent Wreath with 2 of the 4 candles lit. The priests were wearing purple vestments and the candles themselves were purple. While purple is the color of Advent in the Catholic/Episcopal Church...purple is not a color most small children would associate with Christmas.

There were wreaths on the doors to the church and a bare Angel Tree in the vestibule.

Maybe the child didn't have a tree at home.

Who knows? Regardless the teacher was thinking like an adult (and not a very astute one) instead of trying to find out what a 7yo was trying to convey his in drawing....it was easier to try to look important to the principal, by bringing a future criminal mind to the principal's attention.

All that was accomplished was confusing an innocent child and making him think he did something evil.....



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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 03:32:45 PM »
The school system needs to lose federal funding
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 03:42:27 PM »
The school system needs to lose federal funding

The Federal Government needs to be removed from the school systems.
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2009, 03:43:18 PM »
Catholics are no different than most other Christian religions....many parishoners show up on Sunday to be seen and then gossip about each other. Which was one of the many issues I had with the Episcopal Church I attended here for years....it was a "who is wearing what, are their children behaving, who's giving how much money to the church, etc...."

My point was a child...asked to draw something about Christmas....drawing a crucifix....needs to be asked why? not accused of evil thoughts.

I'm Catholic. At Mass on Sunday...the only thing to represent the Christmas season in the sanctuary itself...was the Advent Wreath with 2 of the 4 candles lit. The priests were wearing purple vestments and the candles themselves were purple. While purple is the color of Advent in the Catholic/Episcopal Church...purple is not a color most small children would associate with Christmas.

There were wreaths on the doors to the church and a bare Angel Tree in the vestibule.

Maybe the child didn't have a tree at home.

Who knows? Regardless the teacher was thinking like an adult (and not a very astute one) instead of trying to find out what a 7yo was trying to convey his in drawing....it was easier to try to look important to the principal, by bringing a future criminal mind to the principal's attention.

All that was accomplished was confusing an innocent child and making him think he did something evil.....





You make a good point.  The teacher really should have gently asked the child to explain the drawing, in order to determine if the child (who is a "special needs" child in any event) was simply representing something that was fresh in his mind that someone else had connected to Christmas for him - as would have happened at the place they visited, as well as at church - or was attempting to convey something else (and then, to figure out if that something else really was objectively disturbing).

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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2009, 04:45:52 PM »
Catholics are no different than most other Christian religions....many parishoners show up on Sunday to be seen and then gossip about each other. Which was one of the many issues I had with the Episcopal Church I attended here for years....it was a "who is wearing what, are their children behaving, who's giving how much money to the church, etc...."

Sorry - migraine almost all day, so I'm a bit short today. Kind of went off there, eh?

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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2009, 04:59:46 PM »
Well technically, Christ on the cross is an Easter symbol and not a Christmas one.. :popcorn:

In all seriousness though....it's a shame.


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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2009, 06:26:52 PM »
Well technically, Christ on the cross is an Easter symbol and not a Christmas one.. :popcorn:

In all seriousness though....it's a shame.



Except that the only reason that the Birth of Christ has any historic or commemorative significance at all, is the atonement, death and resurrection of the Living Son of the Living God.  Mary knew it from the moment of the Visitation by Gabriel; Joseph knew it shortly thereafter. The Savior arguably knew it before the world was created.

If an 8-year old chooses to remember Christ's perfect gift to mankind in his description of what Christmas means to him, I can only applaud him, and stand menacingly between him and all of the social engineers trying to re-program it out of him in his school system.
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Re: Boy sent home, psych evaluations, for drawing Jesus (reminder of Christmas)
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2009, 06:34:30 PM »
You would think that in an area like Boston with a high percentage of Catholics....the teacher and school administrators would have been smarter than they appears to be....and just asked the child what the meaning of his drawing was.

I don't think I've ever been in a Catholic Church that doesn't have a crucifix at the front of the church....and since children are taught to keep their eyes front during Mass....duh...

Boston area is very racially segregated. More so than the South. I have heard it is one most racist city.
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Boston area is very racially segregated. More so than the South. I have heard it is one most racist city.

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