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I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« on: December 13, 2009, 12:43:16 PM »
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I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
   
that he'll lose his cred as a tool of wall street.

Talk me down.

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OMG you have to be kidding me Obama creating too many jobs?  :rotf: :rotf:
Only a DUmmy though would see something bad in a scenario that won't happen like this to be a bad thing.
I'd love for too many jobs to be out there.

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3. Remind me again how the President creates jobs.
   
Any stimulus bill goes through Congress -- and unless you lived in a cave for the months of February and March, you know how that worked out.

Yeah it worked so well there are job listings everywhere employers are fighting like hell to get people to work for them.  :rotf:

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10. Yes, it is Congress who passed the whittled down stimulus
   
Would be nice if the Obama administration could address that at some point. Instead of letting the RW co-opt the debate with their talking points about deficits and government spending. Some mention of the fact that the original proposals would have produced faster results but had to be cut back 2nd to Republican obstructionisism. President Obama can't pass the legislation but the will to call out those who responsible for thwarting the job creating agenda does not seem to be there.

Hmmm you guys bitched about deficits and spending when Bush was in office now it's just a right wing smear to point out that Obama has added a hell of a lot to the deficit.

I also love how it's all the repukes fault when they are the minority. Minority means there are less of them which means the dems control everything. You kept crowing about having 60 in the senate and still you cant get what you want. So instead of blaming the 60 you blame the 40. Just like if cap and tax comes to life and you have to pay double in electric bills to post at DU I bet you blame the repukes for that too.


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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 12:48:47 PM »
It could happen; but I've still got my money on the snowball in Hell.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 12:52:44 PM »
From what I'm seeing, we ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to unemployment.  From what I can tell, there are going to be HUGE layoffs from some very major corporations early in 2010.  The farcical "reported" unemployment rate may be headed towards 15-20%, to which you can add another 5-10% for the people that fall off the radar.

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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 12:54:59 PM »
Quote from: BadCat on December 13, 2009, 12:52:44 PM
From what I'm seeing, we ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to unemployment.  From what I can tell, there are going to be HUGE layoffs from some very major corporations early in 2010.  The farcical "reported" unemployment rate may be headed towards 15-20%, to which you can add another 5-10% for the people that fall off the radar.

Good things are not coming DUmmies, no ponies for you, no ponies for anyone.

Yep no ponies but tons of horseshit.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 01:05:47 PM »
I like the the fact that they are trying to equate a rise in the stock market with an economic recovery, for which employment is always a "lagging indicator".

The stock market LOVES layoffs.  This shows that companies are cutting costs, which Wall Street ADORES.  Doesn't mean shit about the economy or employment prospects.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 01:31:21 PM »
Obama has created a number of jobs, actually. Each title ends in "Czar"...
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 01:45:11 PM »
Quote from: bkg on December 13, 2009, 01:31:21 PM
Obama has created a number of jobs, actually. Each title ends in "Czar"...

I think you've hit upon the solution!  He can just "czar" the entire country!  That way, everyone's got a job, right?  :rotf:
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 01:46:26 PM »
Quote from: Oceander on December 13, 2009, 01:45:11 PM
I think you've hit upon the solution!  He can just "czar" the entire country!  That way, everyone's got a job, right?  :rotf:

Unfortunately, that would create competition, so it will never work.

Which might be why KTLK FM is allowing people to nominate themselves for Czar positions. Funny as hell.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 01:54:02 PM »
Umm...unemployment has doubled since Obama took office.

What jobs has Obama created so far that the DUmmies are worried about him creating more of?
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 02:06:28 PM »
Jobs? What jobs? DUmmies don't work. *returns to Falcons-Saints*
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2009, 02:09:13 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on December 13, 2009, 01:54:02 PM
Umm...unemployment has doubled since Obama took office.

What jobs has Obama created so far that the DUmmies are worried about him creating more of?

Like bkg pointed out, all those czars, man - Zero-bama is simply czarry-eyed.  He's got czars coming out the ... well, out of every orifice, mentionable and unmentionable! ;)
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2009, 02:09:54 PM »
I love it.  Uh, DUmmies?  Governement doesn't CREATE SHIT.  They only prevent the creation of by degrees.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2009, 02:14:33 PM »
Quote from: BadCat on December 13, 2009, 01:05:47 PM
I like the the fact that they are trying to equate a rise in the stock market with an economic recovery, for which employment is always a "lagging indicator".

The stock market LOVES layoffs.  This shows that companies are cutting costs, which Wall Street ADORES.  Doesn't mean shit about the economy or employment prospects.

Consider too that the rise in the stock market is almost entirely due to government infusion of trillions of dollars into the financial markets.  It has nothing to do with a sound economy and everything to do with government interference in the marketplace.  So now, we're faced with:

1.)  We don't recover, we can't raise money through debt offerings, we default, the world ends.
2.)  We do recover (no idea how, we'll just call it the immaculate recovery) we're faced with a currency crisis due to said trillions sloshing around, interest rates shoot straight to the moon, we can no longer finance our debt payments, we default or the dollar fails, or both, the world ends.

Either way, at this point, we burn.  Honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better way to destroy an entire economy than by taking the steps the Obama administration has taken...
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2009, 02:22:24 PM »
Quote from: Chump on December 13, 2009, 02:14:33 PM
Consider too that the rise in the stock market is almost entirely due to government infusion of trillions of dollars into the financial markets.  It has nothing to do with a sound economy and everything to do with government interference in the marketplace.  So now, we're faced with:

1.)  We don't recover, we can't raise money through debt offerings, we default, the world ends.
2.)  We do recover (no idea how, we'll just call it the immaculate recovery) we're faced with a currency crisis due to said trillions sloshing around, interest rates shoot straight to the moon, we can no longer finance our debt payments, we default or the dollar fails, or both, the world ends.

Either way, at this point, we burn.  Honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better way to destroy an entire economy than by taking the steps the Obama administration has taken...

Exactly!  Who needs Usama bin Laden when we have Barak Hussein Obama?
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2009, 02:25:57 PM »
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Honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better way to destroy an entire economy than by taking the steps the Obama administration has taken...

Which is exactly what organizers like Alinsky said would need to happen before the Statists would be able to fully implement their plans.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2009, 02:36:30 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on December 13, 2009, 02:25:57 PM
Which is exactly what organizers like Alinsky said would need to happen before the Statists would be able to fully implement their plans.

And there will be people shrugging at the impending, complete statism and saying, "well, we gave capitalism a chance.  It just didn't work out."  Having the short-term memory of a goldfish, they won't remember TARP, or the auto bailouts, or the re-ordering of debt priority for Chrysler, or the stimulus.  They'll only notice that there's no bread on the shelves and beg for more government "help."  It boggles the mind, and makes me actually want for those people to reap what they sow.  I and mine are almost fully ready for the inevitable collapse, so I have no problem watching DUmmies burn.  If it weren't for the many, many good and decent people who will be also be utterly ruined, I'd say "bring it on.  The sooner the better."
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2009, 02:43:44 PM »
Quote from: bkg on December 13, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
Unfortunately, that would create competition, so it will never work.

Which might be why KTLK FM is allowing people to nominate themselves for Czar positions. Funny as hell.

Nice thing about landing a Czar position, though; you can name it for whatever you like.  The more unqualified you are for the position the better, apparently.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2009, 02:44:21 PM »
Anyone find it intersting that most of the rich, radical socialists who are pushing this agenda were not born in the USA?
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2009, 02:47:30 PM »
Quote from: bkg on December 13, 2009, 02:44:21 PM
Anyone find it intersting that most of the rich, radical socialists who are pushing this agenda were not born in the USA?

You mean like George Soros?

Of course you do.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2009, 02:51:44 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on December 13, 2009, 02:47:30 PM
You mean like George Soros?

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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2009, 03:56:56 PM »
Have no fear, DUmmies. Obama will not do a thing to make this country better.
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2009, 04:03:11 PM »
Quote from: SilverOrchid on December 13, 2009, 03:56:56 PM
Have no fear, DUmmies. Obama will not do a thing to make this country better.

He will on Jan 20th 2013. When President Palin is sworn in.  :-)
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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2009, 04:23:16 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on December 13, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
He will on Jan 20th 2013. When President Palin is sworn in.  :-)

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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2009, 04:38:20 PM »
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I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
   
that he'll lose his cred as a tool of wall street.

Talk me down.

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Re: I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2009, 04:48:40 PM »
Quote from: SilverOrchid on December 13, 2009, 03:56:56 PM
Have no fear, DUmmies. Obama will not do a thing to make this country better.

True that....

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