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Offline franksolich

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primitive trying to get squared
« on: December 12, 2009, 08:21:40 AM »
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Oh my.

You know, I kind of sort of always sometimes used to wonder about that.

As a little lad, I used to see old wooden doors that had some type of wire or cable stretching diagonally from the top of one corner to the bottom of the opposite corner, and usually there was a twist-turn thingamajig about mid-point, where one could tighten or loosen the wire, or cable.

Is this what the primitive is referring to?

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I'm back,,,..One thing after another! Fixable?

My house is old and nothing is square any more. Recently, the aluminum storm door, the one I use daily, has been sticking near the top for about 8 inches; heavy friction. Only a good whack will open it. Last night the handle fell apart. I can fix that but I am wondering if this arrangement I saw yesterday will be able to square off the door again. I will get out there with a square this AM and see how off square I am.

I noticed a door yesterday that had, inside, a heavy duty diagonal rod from top right to bottom left. There was a turnbuckle in the mid-section to cinch it tight. I may be wrong but I thought it was to help keep the door square.

The full length hinges on the left(as you look at it from the exterior) are worn after 40 years. It should probably be replaced but $$ is a problem right now. I'd love to find some kind of a stop-gap measure to get me through this winter.

Any thoughts?

No primitive, not even the know-it-all defrocked warped primitive, has shown up at this bonfire. 

Any suggestions from this side?
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Re: primitive trying to get squared
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 01:15:38 PM »
Coach, if the door frame is square (and plumb), but the door itself is sagging out of square (like wooden-framed screen doors used to do when they aged), the diagonal device with the turnbuckle in it will re-square the door......if the door frame itself is no longer square, you have to distort the door (into a parallelogram) in order to get it to fit.......

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Re: primitive trying to get squared
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 01:23:39 PM »
Quote from: TVDOC on December 12, 2009, 01:15:38 PM
Coach, if the door frame is square (and plumb), but the door itself is sagging out of square (like wooden-framed screen doors used to do when they aged), the diagonal device with the turnbuckle in it will re-square the door......if the door frame itself is no longer square, you have to distort the door (into a parallelogram) in order to get it to fit.......

Thank you, sir; I used to see those doors with that cable stretched diagonally all the time, when I was a little lad.  These however were wooden doors (usually screen doors), not aluminum ones. 

I just always thought the cables were used to strengthen the door; I had no idea they could be used to twist the door into fitting the frame.

I haven't seen one of those in a long time, though.
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Re: primitive trying to get squared
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 01:33:43 PM »
This DUmmy's door is probably not out of square. It's probably the house that is sagging. But just keep throwing a band-aid on the problem and tweak that door every year or so until the house falls down around you, you big DUmmy.
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Re: primitive trying to get squared
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 01:36:33 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on December 12, 2009, 01:23:39 PM
Thank you, sir; I used to see those doors with that cable stretched diagonally all the time, when I was a little lad.  These however were wooden doors (usually screen doors), not aluminum ones. 

I just always thought the cables were used to strengthen the door; I had no idea they could be used to twist the door into fitting the frame.

I haven't seen one of those in a long time, though.

Same here Frank..a forgotten memory of growing up.
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Re: primitive trying to get squared
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 01:51:50 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on December 12, 2009, 01:23:39 PM
Thank you, sir; I used to see those doors with that cable stretched diagonally all the time, when I was a little lad.  These however were wooden doors (usually screen doors), not aluminum ones. 

I just always thought the cables were used to strengthen the door; I had no idea they could be used to twist the door into fitting the frame.

I haven't seen one of those in a long time, though.

Well......there are several types of aluminum storm doors........the cheap ones are fabricated out of extrusions, pieced together with pressed joints.....these will sag over time, and can be repaired with the device that is described above.......

Most quality storm doors nowadays are welded together, and won't typically sag over time.  However, since these doors also come with a built-in frame that attaches to the exterior of the house, if the house settles, and distorts the door frame, all you have to do is take the door, and the frame off the house, and remount it in a square configuration......problem fixed......sorta.....

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Re: primitive trying to get squared
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 01:57:48 PM »
Quote from: crockspot on December 12, 2009, 01:33:43 PM
This DUmmy's door is probably not out of square. It's probably the house that is sagging. But just keep throwing a band-aid on the problem and tweak that door every year or so until the house falls down around you, you big DUmmy.

ha ha ha ha... :rofl:
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Re: primitive trying to get squared
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 11:17:14 PM »
I would suggest the DUmbass simply remove the door from its hinges, and then brick up the resulting opening. The out-of-square gaps could then be filled in with extra mortar. Most houses have a back door and a front door, so whichever one remains could serve for entry/exit. Cold air draft problem solved, although this solution could affect resale value. I love helping out a DUmbass. Next case.
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