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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 09:22 AMNOMINEE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009Original message This repubican hand wringing over government regs "strangling" small business ....... ..... makes me want to ****ing hurl. I own a small business and have since 1993. Before that, I worked for a small business for many years.Government regs have never been an issue. Rapacious BIG BUSINESS is the issue. The repubicans get the little guys to cheer for deregulation that actually HURTS little guys and gives freer reign to the big guys to pick the bones and pockets of the little guys.And it goes unchallenged by those who are supposed to be on OUR side.Gawd ...... I hate repubicans.
NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 09:33 AMResponse to Original message 1. i hear ya Stinky my accountant used to turn purple at tax time when she'd hand me my quarterly bill, she'd sputter about people making 3x what I did on 'investment income' and paying nothing while I put out close to 40% of every profit dollar.....
laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 09:47 AMResponse to Reply #1 5. Same here. My husband has been in business since 1982 and our tax hit was right at 40% of every dollar. I just seethe when I hear Repigs talk about small business. I've never seen them do anything that helped "small" business.One clue what they consider small: the Senate health care bill exempts small business from the employer mandate. They define this as employers with payrolls under $500,000.
unpossibles (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 09:36 AMResponse to Original message 2. so true. I've also wondered about when voters on the right complain about lobbyists corrupting the government, then in the same breath complains about the government being too large or full of regulations and whatnot. Don't they get that removing the government from the equation just makes the corporations who back those lobbyists that much more powerful?
phantom power (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 09:39 AMResponse to Original message 3. I've got a neighbor who runs a small business... Over thanksgiving, he was spouting the GOP supply-side line. "Well, if they really want to stimulate the economy, they should lower taxes on small businesses."I was tempted to ask him: "So, if your biz had lower taxes, how would that help your business stimulate the economy?"But I know better than to bother.
Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 09:40 AMResponse to Original message 4. I don't know of many small businesses that are even aware of the regs. Usually because the regs only impact the big businesses.
phasma ex machina (510 posts) Fri Dec-04-09 10:03 AMResponse to Reply #4 8. The powers that be find it infinitely easier to control one big business with 50,000 employees than 10,000 businesses with 5 employees. Big Gov and Big Biz, it's a symbiotic relationship.
doc03 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 09:56 AMResponse to Original message 6. I have to disagree that government regs have (never) been an issue. I can give you an example: A friend of mine that owns an asphalt paving company was going to build a new equipment repair building. The building was to replace an old building in another location that he had been using for years. The first problem he ran into was he would have a couple men working in the building so he was required to put in a sewage system, couldn't use a port-a-john. He couldn't put a sewage system in because he had slightly less than an acre of ground, so he would have to purchase more ground. If you have an older home on say a quarter acre you are grandfathered in and it doesn't matter if you have ten people in the house. But because it would be new construction he needed a full acre of ground even though he only had two employees. Then he ran into another problem, even though it would only be used by his mechanics he was required to make the place handicap accessible for another several thousand dollars. What he finally ended up doing was just putting up a storage rental building.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 01:17 PMNOMINEE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009Response to Reply #6 11. There are always exceptions that prove the rule. Just as there are stupid regs put in place ..... ..... with good intent. I suspect your friend ran afoul of the latter.
Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 02:22 PMResponse to Reply #6 15. Other than the handicap accessible issue, it sounds like most of the other issues were local township, city, county or state compliance codes. In my experience with small businesses, other than taxes the local regulations are far more oppressive than federal regulations.
butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 01:21 PMResponse to Original message 12. And I hate some Dems for.. not telling these people where to get off,they usually go on with some long speech instead of getting to the point and telling them that its BULLSHIT!
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-04-09 01:52 PMNOMINEE FOR TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009Response to Reply #12 14. That's what the other side of the same coin does .....
Wait... so the dummies are bitching about paying 40% in taxes.... and then say there's no reason for tax cuts. STupid people bug me.