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mountain man primitive being ironical
« on: December 04, 2009, 10:09:41 AM »
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Oh my.

The mountain man primitive who, like all men, nightly pitches his tent one day's march nearer the mausoleum:

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Fri Dec-04-09 09:49 AM
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Is this what you call irony?

Ask an American kid of high-school age to point out Pakistan on a map of the world and chances are they won't be able to do it despite the fact that some number of them are likely to die or be maimed there. Ironically (?) if you were to put a map of the world in front of a Pakistani kid of high-school age and ask him to point out the place in the United States from which the Predator Drone (armed with a Hellfire missile that was going to kill him, his family, and half of his village) would be operated and launched he couldn't do it either.

One hides in a cave, the other hides in a bunker. You tell me what the difference is.

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seabeyond  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-04-09 09:52 AM
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1. when you were a kid did you know where vietnam was, or grenada, or kuwait?

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atreides1 (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-04-09 09:54 AM
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3. I did

My father, step father, cousin, and an uncle were in Vietnam.

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HopeHoops  (1000+ posts)      Fri Dec-04-09 09:57 AM
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5. Seems Reagan thought Grenada was a huge island in the Gulf of Mexico.

That was such a crock of shit.

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Fri Dec-04-09 10:09 AM
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8. When I was in high school I was very much aware of where Viet Nam was

I could not have picked Grenada out on a map, but in fact there are many maps drawn to a scale so large that they omit that tiny island - of course Reagan didn't have any problem finding it. Just think of the glory, the USA against a country who's entire population could easily be assembled in the very Pentagon that guided the attack against it. Kuwait had been a nation roughly 2 years when I started High School and to be honest about it I doubt that our maps were that recent, not that I could have pointed it out. I probably would have looked in the right part of the world first though. You see, they used to teach Geography, and I wasn't all that bad in school.

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atreides1 (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-04-09 09:53 AM
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2. Well

I'm not so sure that the Pakistani wouldn't be able to show you on a map where the United States was!

However, I do believe that the American would probably point to Turkey or Texas.

The bitter old Vermontese cali primitive:

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-04-09 09:55 AM
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4. no, this is not a good example of irony.

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Lerkfish  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-04-09 09:58 AM
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6. agreed. irony is something completely different. This, as stated is rather an example of its an example of clueless children and bloodthirsty adults.

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surrealAmerican  (1000+ posts)      Fri Dec-04-09 10:57 AM
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10. It shows that our weakness in education is not limited to geography ...

... but it includes literary devices as well.
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Re: mountain man primitive being ironical
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 11:01:50 AM »
Most DUmmies think irony has something to do with metal.

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Re: mountain man primitive being ironical
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 11:08:11 AM »
Most DUmmies think irony has something to do with metal.

It's kinda goldy and shiny...

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Re: mountain man primitive being ironical
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 11:28:56 AM »
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Is this what you call irony?

Ask an American kid of high-school age to point out Pakistan on a map of the world and chances are they won't be able to do it despite the fact that some number of them are likely to die or be maimed there. Ironically (?) if you were to put a map of the world in front of a Pakistani kid of high-school age and ask him to point out the place in the United States from which the Predator Drone (armed with a Hellfire missile that was going to kill him, his family, and half of his village) would be operated and launched he couldn't do it either.

One hides in a cave, the other hides in a bunker. You tell me what the difference is.

And yet, your average 10 year old homeschooler would have no problem pointing Pakistan out. That says about all you need to know about public school.

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Re: mountain man primitive being ironical
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 03:59:08 PM »
And yet, your average 10 year old homeschooler would have no problem pointing Pakistan out. That says about all you need to know about public school.

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How very true, here in my area a few years back there was a great example of this.

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Against All Odds:
Homeless homeschooler gets perfect SAT score!
 
 SONORA, CA - A 17-year-old homeschooled student scored a perfect 800 on both the verbal and mathematics sections of the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) in April, despite the adversity of periodic homelessness. Trevor Loflin credits his mother, whom he calls "a great teacher," and his family's strong religious faith, for his success.

Now living in an apartment in northern California, Trevor recalls that "things started coming apart at the seams" for his family in 1996, with job losses, a divorce, bad credit, fire and theft of their belongings, and other "odd misfortunes," which eventually led to home-lessness. In spite of these trials, Trevor's mother began homeschooling her three children several years ago, when, as they describe it, the public schools "really began getting in the way of our education."

Trevor reports on his new website (http://www.rmwest.com/trevor/) that the children studied in the car, on picnic tables, in tents and, occasionally, in the garages and living rooms of friends. His mother tested them with the optional SAT II subject tests to determine the effectiveness of their instruction, and Trevor's subject test scores (perfect 800s in physics, math, and language, with slightly lower scores in literature and chemistry) presaged his performance on the SAT I college entrance exam.

As a result of his combined 1600 SAT I score, Trevor received a good deal of publicity in the media and on the internet. He also earned the title "Presidential Scholar Candidate," which is conferred on only two students per state per year. He plans to attend Bob Jones University in the fall, although his choice of this institution makes him ineligible for government grants and scholarships, as well as for most private foundation grants.

A happy result of Trevor's notoriety has been the establishment of an "Educational Fund" in his name. He hopes to enroll in a work-study program to earn the rest of his college tuition and says that, if he "should happen to receive" more than he absolutely needs for his educational expenses, he will help his sisters attend college as well.

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