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primitives discuss rubber gloves
« on: December 03, 2009, 05:46:00 AM »
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eleny  (1000+ posts)      Sun Nov-29-09 10:34 PM
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Does anyone use food handling gloves?

I'm looking for recommendations for gloves to wear while working with raw chicken. I can't stand all the slippery sliminess and would like to buy a box of gloves. So if anyone has experience with these and has a favorite type, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

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Duer 157099  (1000+ posts)        Sun Nov-29-09 11:33 PM
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1. All the time. And for everything.

I'm a glove fanatic.

The ones I currently have (a case from ebay) are called:

"QuickServe Gloves with Microban" by Handgards

They come in bunches of 50 and a cardboard thing that you can hang somewhere so you just slip your hand in and pull one off. I love them.

edit: Oh, and btw, those are just basically plastic hand coverings, not good for doing anything that requires dexterity of any sort. For that, I have a second type that I get in boxes at Costco, the Nitrile Exam gloves.

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eleny  (1000+ posts)      Sun Nov-29-09 11:47 PM
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2. Sounds like the exam gloves would be a choice for deboning raw chicken.

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kestrel91316  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-01-09 12:42 PM
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6. Latex exam gloves are overmuch for food handling. They make food handlers plastic gloves that are probably super-cheap. Smart & Final is a source around these parts, IIRC.

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eleny  (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 07:17 PM
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12. They look good - so long as they hold up while deboning chickens

I'll only work on one chicken at any time. So these look like they'd be a good choice.

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grasswire  (1000+ posts)      Mon Nov-30-09 12:09 AM
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3. I wished I had gloves yesterday...

...when I was handling a whole salmon that was defrosted from the freezer. Not that it was contaminated or anything; it just felt i**y.

Gee. Gloves would be useful for some pet-related tasks. Hm.

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eleny  (1000+ posts)      Mon Nov-30-09 12:26 AM
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4. I avoid cutting up chickens and often opt for parts

But tonight I watched a couple of videos demonstrating how to debone a whole chicken. It all started with a video about butterflying chickens. I really want to do this but realized that I avoid dealing with raw i**y chicken when I can avoid it. One of the chefs in a video was wearing gloves and that's the answer to my dilemma. A good pair of gloves and a sharp knife and I'm in business.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Mon Nov-30-09 01:25 AM
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5. I do but I use them for jobs like picking up the hairballs the cat just hocked up.

I have latex gloves for other jobs, like cleaning the ring out of the toilet bowl with pumice stone.

For jobs that are just germy and not disgusting, like handling raw chicken, I'd go bare handed and wash my hands as soon as the prep work is done, along with the knife and plastic cutting board.

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hippywife  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-01-09 12:53 PM
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7. Nope.

I've just convinced myself over the years that I need to just stick my hands in and do what needs to be done, can always wash them after.

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eleny  (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 07:20 PM
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14. Thanks anyway but I have a light case of hand exema which blooms when I wash my hands too often

It's on the knuckles on top of my right hand. Just dry and very itchy. So if I can avoid the hand washings I'll be better off.

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woofless  (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 03:30 PM
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8. I use them whenever I cut meat or poultry.

I like just being able to strip them off and chuck them, and continue with another task. Reglove as needed. I buy the cheapest latex exam gloves I can find. You can feel things well through them and knife control is good.

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Paper Roses  (393 posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 03:57 PM
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9. I must admit that cleaning the innards from poultry is not my favorite job but it would take me twice as long to do if I was wearing gloves, Toughen up, get it done, wash hands and board and be done with it.

I have a friend who just stuffs her hands into a baggie to take care of the bird. Just shakes them into the rubbish when done.

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katkat  (766 posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 04:20 PM
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10. I try not to use gloves for anything

they wind up in the landfill and never degrade. Some wind up in the islands of plastic trash in the oceans.

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hippywife  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-01-09 06:06 PM
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11. Bingo!

The less non-biodegradable items in the landfills and the great ocean gyres, the better. 

after which Grandma quotes an article about plastics in the Pacific

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katkat  (766 posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 08:22 PM
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17. eleny

Try Neutrogena hand cream and taking flaxseed oil. It seems for me anyway to be dryness that causes a problem.

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eleny  (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 08:36 PM
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18. I'm being treated by my doc

I use hand cream just about every time I wash my hands and an ointment on the area. It helps. But hand eczema is a thing that doesn't go away easily.

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japple  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 10:02 AM
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21. Hey eleny, I have eczema as well and I use "Bluettes" heavy-duty lined gloves for lots of kitchen chores. I wash them after using, just as I would wash my hands. They are invaluable during canning time for handling the scalded jam jars, etc. I would be lost without my bluettes. They last forever.

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Retrograde  (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 11:59 PM
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20. I use kitchen towels

the cheap white kind I buy in bulk. Use them to pull the skin off chickens, then toss them into the wash (hot, with bleach).

I use latex gloves for some applications, like working with planting soil or dyes. I have large hands, and most gloves are uncomfortable: if they're wide enough across the palm the fingers are too long. So I rely a lot on soap and hot water when dissecting chickens by hand. An assistant to fetch utensils and turn on the tap helps, too.

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Tab  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-01-09 10:19 PM
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19. Yeah, I do

Not for health reasons, just because the stuff stinks and takes forever to get rid of. Same with handling garlic

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gizmonic  (994 posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 01:47 PM
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22. Would nitrile gloves be ok to use while mixing dough, pastry, etc.

or do I have to look for a food safe type of glove? Problem is I can't find anything of the sort around here and I've a bit of baking to do.

Normally I'd use my impeccably clean hands to mix the dough but a couple of my fingers recently met the nasty end of a cheese grater (not too serious -- just a few inconvenient gouges).

I have some nitrile gloves I bought from the hardware store. Would these be acceptable to use?

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Paper Roses  (393 posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 03:55 PM
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23. Hi eleny, I just thought of something that might help. 

When I paint--and I am the messiest painter- I use the cheap poly film gloves that I pick up at a dollar store. They are full length but are a flat shape and very thin. To counteract the thinness, I double up on the gloves so that the friction between the hand and glove is not a problem. Two gloves on each hand seems to be the answer. They rub against each other and not against your skin making them last longer. When done, I peel them off into the trash.

I buy them in bundles at a dollar store when I see them. About #1.00 for about a hundred. Can't beat the price. THey are big, fat gloves that look lime a child's tracing of a hand. Does the job for me. THey would keep your hands out of the water and away from the bird.
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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 07:19:31 AM »
I bet Sarah Palin can handle raw meat without gloves.

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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 08:31:10 AM »
I will admit.  I do wear latex gloves in the kitchen.  ONLY when I am handling jalepenos, or habaneros.  I used to try to use the plastic sack you get at the grocery, to put your vegetables in, but that gets in the way.  I don't buy them.  A buddy of mine works in a medical supply warehouse, and when a box is damaged, they have to pitch them.  I have a habit of rubbing my eyes.  NOT a good idea after handling hot peppers.  My eye swelled shut once. 
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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 08:36:19 AM »
Only time I wear gloves in my kitchen is when I'm cutting up wild game.  Especially poultry, where I change gloves between birds, in order to minimize the potential for any cross-contamination to occur.  First defense against that, of course, is not to shoot an animal that doesn't look/act like a healthy specimen.
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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 08:54:47 AM »
I buy the boxes of the latex gloves...usually at Sam's.

I don't use them for cooking, but I do use them for heavy cleaning the bathroom and always when working in the yard. They are great to wear when planting flowers....much less damaging to the little plants than gardening gloves. Not good for pulling weeds, but good under the garden gloves.
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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 09:05:08 AM »
I buy whatever is on sale at the pharmacy.  I used them for handling food and working on my car (for messy jobs).
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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 10:19:13 AM »
The DUmp lost its expert authority on exam gloves when benburch gulped the granite.

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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 11:02:15 AM »
Iassa, gloves are absolutely necessary when handling those firecrackers! 
We have to use gloves all the time in the takeout joint we have.  They're cheap as chips at Sam's and I go through them like wildfire. 

I cannot plant flowers wearing gloves.  That's a barehanded labor of love, I just feel like I'm manhandling them with gloves. 

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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 11:06:03 AM »
Iassa, gloves are absolutely necessary when handling those firecrackers! 
We have to use gloves all the time in the takeout joint we have.  They're cheap as chips at Sam's and I go through them like wildfire. 

I cannot plant flowers wearing gloves.  That's a barehanded labor of love, I just feel like I'm manhandling them with gloves. 

that's why I like the latex....they fit really well and don't damage the flowers. they also keep me from getting the "itches"


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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 12:02:05 PM »
I never wear gloves, even when I'm cleaning and gutting. I feed my dogs & cats raw, meaty bones every day (a diet I highly recommend for our carnivores). I just wash my hands and the cutting board very well. I've never had problem.

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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 01:34:31 PM »
I never wear gloves, even when I'm cleaning and gutting. I feed my dogs & cats raw, meaty bones every day (a diet I highly recommend for our carnivores). I just wash my hands and the cutting board very well. I've never had problem.

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I always put my cutting boards in the dishwasher after I cut raw meat on them....they are some sort of plastic. I quit using my wood one for raw meat ...too worried about what little germs were doing in the wood....
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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 01:43:26 PM »
I always put my cutting boards in the dishwasher after I cut raw meat on them....they are some sort of plastic. I quit using my wood one for raw meat ...too worried about what little germs were doing in the wood....

I remember reading several years ago that wood cutting boards are better.  There is some natural anti-bacterial agents in wood.

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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 01:45:31 PM »
OMG! DUmmy just buy the f***ing gloves. Not everything needs to be approved by strangers online. It is just GLOVES!!!  :hammer:



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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 03:04:50 PM »
OMG! DUmmy just buy the f***ing gloves. Not everything needs to be approved by strangers online. It is just GLOVES!!!  :hammer:

They probably want justification for cutting "bareback" . . .
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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 04:32:32 PM »
I bet Sarah Palin can handle raw meat without gloves.

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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 07:33:38 PM »
Dummies have to be the biggest bunch of pussies on the planet. Not only does this one require gloves to cut up a chicken, he/she/it cannot make the decision on their own as to which glove would work. It's a chicken. It won't take but a minute to cut it up, then wash. I realize that soap and water are anathema to dummies, but damn, once won't hurt.

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Re: primitives discuss rubber gloves
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2009, 02:51:27 AM »
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eleny  (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-01-09 07:20 PM
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14. Thanks anyway but I have a light case of hand exema which blooms when I wash my hands too often

It's on the knuckles on top of my right hand. Just dry and very itchy. So if I can avoid the hand washings I'll be better off.

It's still a very good idea to wash your hands when taking the gloves off, and your wrists, forearms, etc...