What could be more fun than Orthodox Jews talking about gay marrage and comments from the DUmp?
Ian David (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-01-09 10:36 AM
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Orthodox rabbis take public anti-gay marriage stance in NJ
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x151962
(Lakewood, NJ) The leaders in the local large Orthodox Jewish community go to great lengths to keep out the outside world, discouraging nonbusiness use of the Internet and encouraging strict filters to keep the ungodly out when members must use the Web.
But last month, several rabbis and other elders did something astounding for them: They took a public stand on a political issue, declaring their opposition to same-sex marriage in the state.
“This really hurts us,†said Rabbi Osher Lieberman, a key figure in the community in the suburbs about 30 miles east of Trenton. “To say (it’s) immoral is not enough.â€
He said community members are being encouraged to do whatever they can to make sure lawmakers don’t vote to recognize gay marriage.
More:
http://www.365gay.com/news/orthodox-rabbis-take-public-... /
What a bunch of schmucks.
Irony part of today's program:
Schmuck, a Yiddish word, has a range of meaning depending on context. In its most innocuous use, a schmuck is a person who does a stupid thing, in which case "dumb schmuck" is the appropriate expression.
A schmuck's behavior ranges from pesky and inconsiderate, to obnoxious and manipulative. A schmuck's personality type ranges from jerk to bastard.
Schmucky behavior also falls within a range of intentionality. Some schmucks carefully plan their bad behavior, some only a little, and some not at all. For example, the bastard may spend considerable time planning his bad deeds. In contrast, the dumb schmuck and the pesky behave badly without any forethought.
Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-01-09 10:45 AM
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2. This ex-Orthodox doesn't agree with the rabbi.
and never will.
That's why I consider myself an independent Jew.
I'm not sure they would consider you a jew (note- small 'j'...see other discussion thread on that). Kind of like a Christian who doesn't believe Jesus was the son of God.
RKP5637 (941 posts) Tue Dec-01-09 11:44 AM
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8. Frightful type of people. Yet probably want and demand all of their rights. Yet
they are made of the same material those that persecuted them were, but yet they fail to see it in themselves. What a psychological twist in their minds.
not exactly sure who RKP is talking about...could be DUmpmonkiez.
stopbush (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-01-09 12:24 PM
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9. Yep. How could it be otherwise? All religions are based on fears and lies.
The Rabbis' stance is pretty evil when you think about it. Advocating the denial of basic human rights to a whole class of people because their ****ing fantasies tell them that they KNOW what's right for the world?
It's time the world abandoned these Bronze-Age constructs, embraced what it means to be human and got about the business of evolving as a species.
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil — but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.†- Steven Weinberg
God, I hate religion.
Yup. Marrage is a basic right now. Hate and lies....are the basis for DUmpmokiez
Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-01-09 09:26 PM
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10. It's Nice to Get Affirmation That the One Thing Jews, Christians and Muslims Can Agree On
Is that gay people are bad.
**** organized religion, and **** anyone who funds their hate with their idiotic tithing.
Where is TNO to discuss what bad is?
