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Fat Che an expert on climate change
« on: November 26, 2009, 07:21:27 AM »
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=160205&page=2

Oh my.

I've been considerably worried about Fat Che, ever since his wife lost her job and Fat Che's home got foreclosed upon.

Happily, Fat Che appears alive and well, in this bonfire at the Rancid Rhodes web-site, where debunking scientists are debunked.

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November 23, 2009

AGW without HADCRUT3

Suppose we throw away all of the data that the reality-denying Right is calling into question as a result of hacking some email accounts.

What is left?

Everything.

Yeah, yeah, as if Fat Che knows about stuff like this.

Then Fat Che lists a whole lot of links, but never mind.

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November 23, 2009

Ignore reality if you like. But there it is, Sparky. Three independent data sets, not one of them controlled by anybody at East Anglia, and all in agreement.

That is Science.

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November 23, 2009

This is called "moving the goalposts" because no matter what standard of proof is proffered, it will be rejected as "inconclusive."

This of course flies in the face of the fact that most science is exactly as sound a basis as AGW - no proof is actually ever conclusive. All results can be attacked by new data and new analysis, and all we can ever achieve is consensus.

What we have here for AGW is an especially strong case;

1. The effect of increasing atmospheric CO2 was predicted 182 years ago by the French mathematician Joseph Fourier. (You've heard of him, correct?)

2. We see this effect in the atmospheres of other planets, and it agrees with predictions in those cases.

3. We have excellent results that show that atmospheric CO2 is regularly increasing, and that this rate of change is increasing.

4. We have excellent isotope data to show that the carbon entering the atmosphere was from a fossil source. So much so that recent radiocarbon age measurements have to be scaled on a table that takes this into account.

5. We have an observed warming trend that matches theoretical predictions for this amount of CO2 rise.

6. We have glaciers melting worldwide at rates that agree with those observed warming trends.

7. We are seeing the range of certain plants move steadily towards the poles.

So, not "conclusive" but that is an improper standard for scientific debate.

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November 23, 2009

There are a zillion (OK, I'll be honest, only 0.87 zillion) sources.

Google is your friend.

I gave you three sources for #5 that are not HADCRUT3 related at all, see graphs above.

The rest of this is not dependent on temperature data at all. (The critters can't read temperature data, and the ice is dumb.)

After which Fat Che clogs the thread with more links.

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November 24, 2009

Can you bag together more unrelated crap if you tried?

We KNOW that adding CO2 to the atmosphere causes heating. This has nothing whatsoever to do with anything in the past other than the fact that you can see its effect in past climate and even in mass extinctions.

We know how much CO2 has risen and can COMPUTE from basic physical principles how much this changes energy retention.

I'm sorry if you want to disbelieve the facts so badly that you will embrace any lie to do it, but this does not change the laws of nature.
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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2009, 07:57:45 AM »
Some people are just too stupid to learn....
Right when you think their IQ's can't get any lower, and the stupid of the DUmp had reached its lowest point, there is Benburch....
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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2009, 08:08:16 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on November 26, 2009, 07:57:45 AM
Some people are just too stupid to learn....
Right when you think their IQ's can't get any lower, and the stupid of the DUmp had reached its lowest point, there is Benburch....
It has nothing to do with whether or not he can learn.

It's about his ego being shown to have been duped...and having to admit it to a bunch of knuckle-dragging RWers.

And its about the loss of political power. They NEEDED global warming to exact righteous, holy vengeance against the evil corporations. Trying to destroy the haves(-more than-me) with claims of unfairness is hard to prove when the worker dornes have health benes and 401k's and 2 weeks vacation. That means the only way to destroy them is to claim they pose a common threat to life in general.

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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2009, 08:13:44 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on November 26, 2009, 08:08:16 AM
It has nothing to do with whether or not he can learn.

It's about his ego being shown to have been duped...and having to admit it to a bunch of knuckle-dragging RWers.

And its about the loss of political power. They NEEDED global warming to exact righteous, holy vengeance against the evil corporations. Trying to destroy the haves(-more than-me) with claims of unfairness is hard to prove when the worker dornes have health benes and 401k's and 2 weeks vacation. That means the only way to destroy them is to claim they pose a common threat to life in general.

Green is the new Red.

Dead on.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2009, 08:20:39 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 26, 2009, 08:13:44 AM
Dead on.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Absolutely.... :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2009, 08:28:51 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on November 26, 2009, 08:20:39 AM
Absolutely.... :clap: :clap: :clap:

Next question from the leftist peanut gallery: How does one remove egg from ones face?

Hold their face to a frying pan heated to med-hi?

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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2009, 09:32:01 AM »
On Nat Geo, they had a report on global climate change in which scientists in Greenland took ice core samples over 12,000 years old that showed the climate over 20 degrees warmer than now. My youngest
, an eighth grader, said "Then how did the ice survive?" and "I guess all that driving by the nomadic tribes tribes to hunt reindeer really set off global warming."

Spoke like a true smart ass. :naughty:
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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2009, 10:01:30 AM »
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Fake but accurate.

Post distilled to core message from Fat Che.
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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2009, 10:21:04 AM »
Well done Mr. SB. I was reading a weather blog yesterday and one of
the weather gurus was trying to explain away the emails. It really sounded
pathetic and one of the posters nailed the guy to the wall with a post
much like yours.

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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2009, 04:46:47 PM »
Maybe I am strange but as soon as they changed the terminology to global climate change I knew they were up to something.
The fact is the global climate changes on a continuous basis. Some years its warm in Jan, some years we freeze our butts off in Sept. The climate of the earth is ever changing and did so long before suv's melted the polar bears.
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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2009, 04:59:59 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 26, 2009, 04:46:47 PM
Maybe I am strange but as soon as they changed the terminology to global climate change I knew they were up to something.
The fact is the global climate changes on a continuous basis. Some years its warm in Jan, some years we freeze our butts off in Sept. The climate of the earth is ever changing and did so long before suv's melted the polar bears.


Heh, I just made this same observation on another thread  :-)
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Re: Fat Che an expert on climate change
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2009, 05:04:16 PM »
Quote from: miskie on November 26, 2009, 04:59:59 PM
Heh, I just made this same observation on another thread  :-)

I just saw that. You know what they say about great minds...
Only in this case only one of us has a great mind and his screen name does not start with an F.  :-)
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