Scientists meet in NYC to challenge Gore, U.N.

[The Night Owl]

well, since you assume that everything written on the web is truth - here ya go. I did a search for "is the sun getting hotter?" and came up with tens of thousands of pages which say... yes. It is. If NASA isnt good enough for you, and you think you need to keep educating us until it 'sinks in' .. maybe its you who needs a slight re-education? [/i]

NASA is plenty good enough for me. According to NASA, solar irradiance has been decreasing slightly since the late 1970s...

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig3_irradiance.gif

The NASA page you cited is an educational page which points out that the Sun will gradually get hotter over the next 5 billion years. The fact that the Sun will get hotter over the next 5 billion years does not mean that the increase in temperature will be a straight line upward. Solar irradiance will go up and down as the Sun gradually gets hotter over the next 5 billion years. But we are not talking about billions of years or millions of years or even thousands of years. We are talking about a period of time measured in decades.

[The Night Owl]

Study says sun getting hotterStudy says sun getting hotter. WASHINGTON (AP) - The sun is getting hotter, adding heat to an Earth already thought to be warming from greenhouse gases. ...
www.lubbockonline.com/news/092897/study.htm

partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/093097sci-sun.html

The AP article points out that the Sun got hotter during the period of time between the late 1980s and the early 1990s. That the Sun got hotter in the period of time between the late 1980s and the early 1990s is perfectly consistent with the NASA solar irradiance graph...

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig3_irradiance.gif

Yes, the Sun got hotter... for a 10 year period. Then it got cooler.

[The Night Owl]

FuturePundit: Sun Energy Output At Over 1000 Year PeakThe Sun is getting hotter(NASA article). Another Nasa article shows climate changes(hotter) throughout the Solar System. Randall Parker said at July 20, ...
www.futurepundit.com/archives/002242.html - 38k - Cached - Similar pages

I really wish you would read and select articles instead of just doing an info dump of what Google searches turn up.

According to the Future Pundit article...

“The change in solar brightness over the past 20 years is not enough to cause the observed changes in our climate. But the indirect effects may be larger, and the range of their influence is unclear, so more study is needed,” he added.

Okay?

[The Night Owl]

Summer's Dog Days Are Here—And Getting HotterSummer's Dog Days Are Here—And Getting Hotter ... Sirius rises with the sun when summer is at its hottest. The dog days traditionally run from July 3 to ...
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0714_040714_summerdogdays.html - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

The National Geographic article does not contain any information pertaining to solar irradiance. This is why I don't like info dumps. In order to refute your post, I have to read a bunch of stuff which has nothing to do with the topic. Lucky, the stuff so far is at least pretty interesting. 

[The Night Owl]

ACRIM vs PMOD - Is the sun getting hotter?Thus, it is evident that with ACRIM the sun would have contributed to the global warming during the last decades. (Source: Shining More Light on the Solar ...
www.skepticalscience.com/acrim-pmod-sun-getting-hotter.htm - 18k - Cached - Similar pages

The article on Skeptical Science confirms what I have been saying...

The ACRIM data shows a slight increase in TSI - the PMOD data shows practically no trend at all. Regardless of which dataset you use, the trend is so slight, solar variations can only have contributed a fraction of the current global warming.

You just got zinged by your own info dump... another good reason why info dumps are a bad idea.

[The Night Owl]

FaqBotic - scheme: is our sun getting hotter of colder?scheme question: is our sun getting hotter of colder? A: yes, but i only slightly believe the mayas, the others are just kooks ...
faqbotic.com/faq/t/114301_2d3b4562_is_our_sun_getting_hotter_of_colder - 4k - Cached - Similar pages

Is the sun getting hotter? - Yahoo! AnswersI just watched a documentry that said the sun was ...
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080218194223AAMUAiV - 42k - Cached - Similar pages

Garbage links.

[Attero Dominatus]

FaqBotic - scheme: is our sun getting hotter of colder?scheme question: is our sun getting hotter of colder? A: yes, but i only slightly believe the mayas, the others are just kooks ...
faqbotic.com/faq/t/114301_2d3b4562_is_our_sun_getting_hotter_of_colder - 4k - Cached - Similar pages

Is the sun getting hotter? - Yahoo! AnswersI just watched a documentry that said the sun was ...
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080218194223AAMUAiV - 42k - Cached - Similar pages

Garbage links.

Actually the suns output can change and effect climate.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html

[The Night Owl]

Actually the suns output can change and effect climate.

No one is arguing that the Sun's output can't change or that changes in solar output can't affect climate.

[overlord]

Here ya go TNO, since you're obviously unwilling to do any real digging of your own here's a nice little collection for ya.  All you have to do is click and read.

http://schnittshow.970wfla.com/globalwarming.html

[The Night Owl]

Here ya go TNO, since you're obviously unwilling to do any real digging of your own here's a nice little collection for ya.  All you have to do is click and read.

http://schnittshow.970wfla.com/globalwarming.html

Great. Another info dump.

If you have a point to make, make it.

[Chris_]

Here ya go TNO, since you're obviously unwilling to do any real digging of your own here's a nice little collection for ya.  All you have to do is click and read.

http://schnittshow.970wfla.com/globalwarming.html

Great. Another info dump.

If you have a point to make, make it.

Kid, you are out of ammo and yet you fight on. I have to respect your tenacity in embracing pseudoscience in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I hereby dub thee:

The Black Knight!

[The Night Owl]

Kid, you are out of ammo and yet you fight on. I have to respect your tenacity in embracing pseudoscience in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I hereby dub thee:

Feel free to take a shot at providing overwhelming evidence, or even just some evidence, that a change in solar output is fueling global warming. Perhaps you will succeed where others have so far failed.

[Attero Dominatus]

Here ya go TNO, since you're obviously unwilling to do any real digging of your own here's a nice little collection for ya.  All you have to do is click and read.

http://schnittshow.970wfla.com/globalwarming.html

Great. Another info dump.

If you have a point to make, make it.

Kid, you are out of ammo and yet you fight on. I have to respect your tenacity in embracing pseudoscience in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I hereby dub thee:

The Black Knight!

It is not tenacity. It is denial.

[The Night Owl]

Since info dumping is all the rage here, I might as well try my hand at it.

A list of what Freedumb2003 would describe as pseudoscientific institutions and organizations which have taken the position that global warming is happening and is probably the result of human activities...


NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS): http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook.html

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA): http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC): http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm

National Academy of Sciences (NAS): http://books.nap.edu/collections/global_warming/index.html

State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC): http://www.socc.ca/permafrost/permafrost_future_e.cfm

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA): http://epa.gov/climatechange/index.html

The Royal Society of the UK (RS): http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page.asp?id=3135

American Geophysical Union (AGU): http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/policy/climate_change_position.html

American Meteorological Society (AMS): http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeresearch_2003.html

American Institute of Physics (AIP): http://www.aip.org/gov/policy12.html

National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR): http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/cc_1.html

American Meteorological Society (AMS): http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/jointacademies.html

Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS): http://www.cmos.ca/climatechangepole.html

Yep. My position on global warming is based on pseudoscience.

[overlord]

Here ya go TNO, since you're obviously unwilling to do any real digging of your own here's a nice little collection for ya.  All you have to do is click and read.

http://schnittshow.970wfla.com/globalwarming.html

Great. Another info dump.

If you have a point to make, make it.

You're a douchebag??

[Lauri]

well, since you assume that everything written on the web is truth - here ya go. I did a search for "is the sun getting hotter?" and came up with tens of thousands of pages which say... yes. It is. If NASA isnt good enough for you, and you think you need to keep educating us until it 'sinks in' .. maybe its you who needs a slight re-education? [/i]

NASA is plenty good enough for me. According to NASA, solar irradiance has been decreasing slightly since the late 1970s...

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig3_irradiance.gif

The NASA page you cited is an educational page which points out that the Sun will gradually get hotter over the next 5 billion years. The fact that the Sun will get hotter over the next 5 billion years does not mean that the increase in temperature will be a straight line upward. Solar irradiance will go up and down as the Sun gradually gets hotter over the next 5 billion years. But we are not talking about billions of years or millions of years or even thousands of years. We are talking about a period of time measured in decades.

who is this 'we' you keep channeling? are you a scientist who has studied this phenominon?

[Attero Dominatus]

well, since you assume that everything written on the web is truth - here ya go. I did a search for "is the sun getting hotter?" and came up with tens of thousands of pages which say... yes. It is. If NASA isnt good enough for you, and you think you need to keep educating us until it 'sinks in' .. maybe its you who needs a slight re-education? [/i]

NASA is plenty good enough for me. According to NASA, solar irradiance has been decreasing slightly since the late 1970s...

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig3_irradiance.gif

The NASA page you cited is an educational page which points out that the Sun will gradually get hotter over the next 5 billion years. The fact that the Sun will get hotter over the next 5 billion years does not mean that the increase in temperature will be a straight line upward. Solar irradiance will go up and down as the Sun gradually gets hotter over the next 5 billion years. But we are not talking about billions of years or millions of years or even thousands of years. We are talking about a period of time measured in decades.

who is this 'we' you keep channeling? are you a scientist who has studied this phenominon?

TheDumbOwl is like any other leftist. No amount of facts will change its mind.