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Offline franksolich

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primitives discuss Yugo Chavez
« on: November 21, 2009, 10:49:54 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7059728

Oh my.

The bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, who finally got around to donating to Skins's island:

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cali  (1000+ posts)         Sat Nov-21-09 09:18 AM
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Chavez praises Carlos the Jackal (and Mugabe, Ahmadinejad and Amin)
 
CARACAS, Venezuela—Hugo Chavez has defended the alleged terrorist mastermind Carlos the Jackal, saying the Venezuelan imprisoned in France was an important "revolutionary fighter" who supported the cause of the Palestinians.

The Venezuelan president praised Carlos -- whose real name is Ilich Sanchez Ramirez -- during a speech Friday night saying: "I defend him. It doesn't matter to me what they say tomorrow in Europe."

Ramirez gained international notoriety during the 1970s and 80s as the alleged mastermind of a series of bombings, killings and hostage dramas. He is serving a life sentence in France for the 1975 murders of two French secret agents and an alleged informant.

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In his speech, Chavez also sought to defend other leaders he said are wrongly labeled "bad guys" internationally, including Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe and Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Chavez called both of them brothers and said he now wonders whether Ugandan dictator Idi Amin was truly as brutal as he was reputed to be.

"We thought he was a cannibal," Chavez said, referring to Amin, whose regime was notorious for torturing and killing suspected opponents in the 1970s. "I have doubts. ... I don't know, maybe he was a great nationalist, a patriot."

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/...

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Imajika (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-21-09 09:29 AM NON-DONOR
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1. It will be interesting to see how the Chavez cheerleaders defend these remarks.

Mugabe? Seriously? Anyone that goes out of their way to defend Robert Mugabe is seriously bad news.

Yet there are those who swoop into these threads declaring the translation is wrong, that Chavez didn't really say these things, etc, etc.

Chavez is a clown, and his spouting this sort of idiocy should be condemned.

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cali  (1000+ posts)         Sat Nov-21-09 09:32 AM
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2. Chavez is more than merely a clown

He's done some very good things for his constituency, but indeed these kinds of utterances make it hard to take him seriously as a statesman.

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The Straight Story  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-21-09 09:35 AM NON-DONOR
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3. If it is negative, it is a lie and the source should never be trusted. Our god

You evil atheists just want to bring down chavez from his cross and give his country to evil americans like Obama.

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UTUSN  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-21-09 11:12 AM NON-DONOR
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7. You NAILED it!

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msongs  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-21-09 10:29 AM NON-DONOR
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4. the isolated dictator descending into paranoia and madness, one step at a time

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tabatha  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-21-09 10:46 AM NON-DONOR
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6. like Mugabe

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bridgit  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-21-09 10:46 AM NON-DONOR
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5. It's good to be the king

Well, one hoped Doug's stupid ex-wife, the Joanne98 primitive, and the JudiLynn primitve, apologists for Yugo, would show up at this bonfire, but alas no.

Maybe they'll come later.
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Re: primitives discuss Yugo Chavez
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2009, 11:00:09 AM »
Reduced oil production by 30%.

Reduced electricity by 30%.

Reduced potable water by 50%.

Hates democracy.

Looks like a DUmbass's perfect guy.


Looks like chavez ain't the guy to make socialism work either. 
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Re: primitives discuss Yugo Chavez
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2009, 02:01:51 PM »
Yugo the car was a marvel of modern engineering and Chavez is just as good.







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Re: primitives discuss Yugo Chavez
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2009, 05:58:50 PM »
Critics of Chavez seem to like Obama, see how our media has spread internationally?

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Re: primitives discuss Yugo Chavez
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2009, 06:41:24 PM »
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cali  (1000+ posts)         Sat Nov-21-09 09:32 AM
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2. Chavez is more than merely a clown

He's done some very good things for his constituency, but indeed these kinds of utterances make it hard to take him seriously as a statesman.

He's steadily decreased the standard of living and existence of freedom in Venezuela ever since he first seized power.  He's been a source of nothing but evil for the entire population.  "Hard to take him seriously.."???  No, it's hard to understand any proposed justification for his continued existence.  He is the epitome, the end result of statist ideology.  Of course he's more than a mere clown, but this DUmmy misses the mark completely.
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