worthless freeloading bum wily primitive not asking for medical advice

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7014616#7036102

Oh my.

The worthless freeloading bum wily primitive, father of so many taxpayer-raised childen by so many different mothers.....

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 12:43 PM
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I am not asking for medical advice. I'm asking for advice saving the careers of two kind dedicated medical professionals who are trying to save my life

A gastrointestinal nurse practitioner and my primary care physician who
also handles my pain management.

I was a carpet layer for 25 years. Carpet layers work with very sharp double edged razor knives and we worked very fast, as we worked sub-contract. Someone got cut every day , in varying degrees of seriousness and we always had open cuts on on our hands. When someone got cut badly, he took off to get sewn up while the other stayed behind to clean up the blood because if we didn't we not only didn't get paid for the job but we also had to pay for the carpet.

These were the days when no one had ever heard of Hepatitis C and didn't carry rubber gloves. We cleaned up the blood bare handed. Somewhere along the way one of those helpers was infected and in cleaning up his blood, I was infected too.

I was diagnosed in 2001. I had my first liver biopsy then. There are four stages of Hep C. The fourth is cirrhosis and when you get there ,there is nothing they can do for you but find a good hospice. In 2001, I tested 2 and they weren't too worried. It turns out I have the easiest form of Hep C to cure , if, and that's the big if, you can handle 6 months of peg-interferon-ribovirin treatment.

The first 6 weeks of therapy aren't so bad, some body aches and chills, kinda like the flu. Then it hits and hits hard. The first day you throw up everything in your system. From there on out it's dry heaves, day and night. You can't eat or sleep (for fear of aspirating stomach acid cause that's all that's down there. Nothing most states let doctors prescribe works to stop the vomiting. I lasted 9 days after the vomiting set in and then I hit the Emergency Room. Only 13 states allow a doctor to prescribe the only thing that works: Marijuana. Unfortunately, mine isn't one of them. Complicating matters, I'm on SSI disability and Medicaid. I can't go anywhere where I can be treated properly.

Two months ago, I had my second liver biopsy. This time I'm Stage 3. Either I find a way to handle the interferon or I have 6-8 years to live. I am 54.

I have a good nurse practitioner. She tried to get me Marinol, but in this state Medicaid won't pay for it except for cancer. To pay out of pocket is $400/month and my income from SSI is $628/mo. Scratch that.

Also I'm a pain management patient subject to regular drug screens.
Luckily, my doctor agreed to suspend the drug screens for the 6 months I'm on interferon.

Here's the catch. I've had a catheter in me since Oct 15. Two Fridays ago ,on exploratory, they found a bunch of big bladder stones. Yesterday they were supposed to bust them up with a laser and flush them out. So I checked into the hospital and they took a urine sample, easy to do through catheter. Two hours later the nurse came in and told me the doctor refused to operate because I tested positive for pot. (just a sample joint some 19 year old dealer gave me and it was not at all medical grade. The urologist is a crabby old bastard but very few here will take medicaid. So I'm still pissing in a bag and don't know what to do.

I'd love to tell the urologist the whole story but he's just the type who might turn the primary care doctor and the nurse practitioner into the medical board or even the cops. As good as they've been to me, I would never do that.

I'm in a real dilemma and I want this damn tube out. Anyone have any ideas?

Suck on the tube, worthless freeloading bum wily primitive. 

The cyanide primitive:

cynatnite  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-14-09 12:47 PM
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1. Can you get a referral for another more compassionate urologist...

I'm so sorry for all your heartache and I wish there was something I could do.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 01:15 PM
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8. Few will take Medicaid. Finding one is the problem

create.peace  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-14-09 12:51 PM
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2. is moving to another state an option?

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 01:17 PM
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9. No Money. $628/mo SSI Medicaid won't move me out of here

Vincardog  (1000+ posts)       Sat Nov-14-09 12:52 PM
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3. Stay clean for 2 weeks and ask to be tested again. Tell Dr. Quack that you went to a concert and mus have got into some "second hand smoke".

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 01:21 PM
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11. That old bastard would never believe it

Chan790  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-14-09 12:55 PM
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4. Unless I'm misunderstanding...you do have a script for Marinol which was never filled.

Ask the original Dr. to write you a shorter script, for as needed...3 days or something. (The out-of-pocket hit would still be there but be closer to $40 than $400) The Marinol would cause a "false positive" and you'd be able to avoid the issues with the urologist.

You're already approved for the medication...you're just seeking a more manageable solution for filling the script. You're not drug-seeking.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 01:20 PM
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10. No. Medicaid wouldn't grant a "prior approval" I have no prescription

CaliforniaPeggy  (1000+ posts)         Sat Nov-14-09 01:06 PM
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7. How I wish I could help!

All I have are these:   

I hope with all my heart that someone here can help you...

The California piggy primitive has a really big house, almost a mansion.....

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 01:28 PM
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12. Thanks Peggy Can I come live with you for 6 months?

No answer from the California piggy primitive.

renate  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-14-09 02:05 PM
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19. k&r to help keep this on the radar

I'm so sorry.

Can the doctor really refuse, on medical grounds, to carry out a procedure that has nothing to do with whether or not you've been smoking pot? You may be able to contact the hospital ombudsman or hospital social worker, explain your situation to someone whose job it is to actually listen, and (gently and politely) explore the possibility that the doctor is behaving unethically.

Can an ER physician refuse to treat somebody who's been in an accident after driving drunk? No. He can't even refuse to treat someone who's hurt other people as a result of driving drunk, no matter what his personal opinions on driving drunk might be. So on what conceivable grounds, other than assholery, can the doctor refuse to treat you?

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 03:48 PM
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23. The Name of the Hospital says it all. It's BAPTIST HOSPITAL

A good pal of the worthless freeloading bum wily primitive:

nashville_brook  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-14-09 05:15 PM
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25. since when do docs refuse to provide potentially life-saving treatment based on a secret piss test?

since when is pot use any of their ******* business. i ****ing hate doctors, i really do. i've had experiences that are almost as bad as this -- well, yeah, as bad or worse. and, i get it about the medicaid problem. you've got the worst of the worst in that pool of docs.

do you have a tip jar or a PayPal where we can send money (would that even help?) -- i'd gladly pitch in for the Marinol to follow Chan's idea. Or whatever. and yes, Baptist sucks. St Thomas isn't much better...but it was better in my experience than Baptist.

What if you go in to the ER in a crisis with the stones? would that bypass the crappy doc situation?

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 06:40 PM
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26. Thank You Brook

I just got off the phone with my primary care doctor who also does my pain management. He understands about my Hep C and needing something that will keep me from throwing up. Even though, as my pain Doctor who usually does drug screens, he has secretly agreed to not do drug screens on me for the 6 months I'll be on interferon. He's a real friend as well as my doctor.

He was obviously upset about my surgery being canceled yesterday.

He said, unless I start having great pain (in that case call an ambulance) come in as early as possible Monday morning and he'll try to find me a urologist at Summit Hospital (the one I prefer). I just hung a florescent light above my bed and noticed that the bottom 6 inches of the tube going into the bag is clogged with a pasty calcium goo. Intermittently my bladder feels very full and I have pain. If I have solid pain I'll call an ambulance, if not I'll wait until Monday morning.

I always need money being on SSI and will need a lot to pay for the herbs I'll need for 6 months on interferon so if it's not against the rules my paypal is my email: wiley54@hotmail .com But I'm not soliciting donations, its up to you since you offered. My Gastrointestinal nurse-practicioner is in on the secret as well as my dr. Just the three of us.

**********SUBWAY CAT ALERT!**********

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Sun Nov-15-09 01:56 PM
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34. wiley,wish I could do something..

This quote from Nashville Brook says it all!

"something that people need to understand with the entire health care situation is that between the insurance problems (or inability to pay), and the war on drugs, people who are seriously sick and in pain are treated like criminals. and it's the worst thing in the world that can happen to you -- right when you need support the most, someone is invading your body chemistry to determine if you're moral enough to deserve medical treatment. god, it's a difficult, unfair world we live in."

Question is how do we get selfish comfortable people that don't care to care?

Add mental health issues to the mix and you get treated worse than shit.People supposed to help are so sure I must be an addict,when I am not.They gave me tylenol for neuropathy pain ! I just whimpered and writhed as I waited for hours for no help with the pain. They sent me home telling me to take tylenol. When I left I could barely walk.

Another time I was injured by falling down a flight of 12 stairs. The EMT's put me in a collar and strapped me to a board for transport..After I was off the ambulance,in triage I told the nurses restraints trigger me and to please take them off ASAP. But did they listen? No because I have PSTD they just kept me tied down. If you come in with a psych history,even when the problem has nothing to do with your psych history,they'll treat you like a rabid dog. Never mind I had a neck collar on and was in a lot of pain, and warned them the restraints were freaking me out...nooo I had to totally lose it before they bothered to take the restraints off.I have PSTD and medical assistance so they can justify all sorts of neglect and cruelty to themselves.

I hope that dickhead urologist gets kidney stones and no one helps him.

Why are there so many assholes in "caring professions"? Or do I run into the assholes because of having medical assistance?

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sun Nov-15-09 01:28 PM
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33. It's Sunday Morning and National Guard Fighters are doing fly bys over me every 3 minutes

I slept well.60 mg of morphine and 10mg of valium tends to guarantee that. But I was up until 3 am trying to clean the silt out of te catheter in a very unorthodox way:

I cut off the straight part at the bottom of a wire coat hanger, washed it well with antibacterial dish soap, wiped it down with isopropal alcohol, let it air dry so it wouldn't burn, coated it with Bacitracin with pain relief, and fed it up through the valve at the bottom of the catheter bag all the way to the flared out part at the top of the bag where it becomes the tube ( getting it through the flap thingy was the hardest part) and stirred up the silt in the flared out part (which let a lot of urine through giving me a lot of relief.

From there the tube was too narrow to go any farther as it was just packing the silt tighter into the tube so I stopped there. But, it really let a lot of urine and back pressure out and off. Then I took my bedtime pills and that was the last thing I remember.

This morning there was only about an inch of urine in the bottom of te bag, but after a couple of cups of coffee it started filling and I felt well enough to bake a pear cobbler. It's in the oven (a toaster oven, this is a sailboat after all.)

I think I'll be able to survive until 8 tomorrow morning when I'll be at my primary care doctor's office when his office girls can find me a new urologist and hospital.

I have bearable pains every now and then but they go away in a few minutes. I swear, I've never rubbed myself down there so much and it didn't feel good.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-17-09 12:20 PM
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35. UPDATE TUESDAY MORNING
 
My primary care doctor sure was pissed (probably the wrong word) when he saw the catheter almost totally silted up, barely anything flowing. His girls are trying to find me a new urologist.

I've been up since 2 am doing the coat hanger treatment and working my way through a 12 pack. Switching to coffee now both of which make me piss like a horse, flushing out white flecks of silt and the occasional large one with blood in it.

My primary care doctor did a piss test too, but not the drug screen this time. 5 minutes later he came back in to tell me I had a serious urinary infection. Funny the urologist didn't find the infection, only the pot I smoked 3 weeks ago.

He prescribed Cipro. Remember Cipro? That was the drug Cheney put everyone at the White House on a week before the Anthrax Attacks that only got sent to the Bush administration's enemies, Dan Rather, a couple of senators who were about to kill the Patriot Act. Killed a few people including a writer for the National Enquirer who had just done a derogatory story on Bush's daughters.

They never found out who did it.

CIPRO!

Doug's really stupid ex-wife:

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Tue Nov-17-09 01:06 PM
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38. Can't you lodge a complaint against Dr. Hack Urologist who is obviously trying to dump you as a patient? If he didn't "find" the infection, I mean?

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-17-09 03:17 PM
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39. Well Beth, If I sued him it would involve the primary care and gastrointestinal nurse-practicioner

Doing that in a state that doesn't have MM laws would ruin their careers.

They have been good and loyal to me and I'm gonna do the same for them.

But I sure wish I could sue the old fart

But I just can't. It would ruin not just their careers but also my treatment, treatment that could save my life.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-17-09 07:40 PM
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42. Just Had The Most Wonderful Phone conversation with my Primary Care Doctor.

Wish I could tell it all here but, it's much too public. Suffice to say that I was told I didn't have to worry about urine drug screens from now at least until I finish the therapy and probably as long as he's my doctor. I had asked if he had to turn in positive results to anyone and be forced to discharge me as a patient. His answer: " No, my records are my records and they are completely private and the results are between us only. Boy, having your primary care doctor do your pain management is MUCH BETTER than having to go to a Tennessee Pain Clinic!

I had left word for him to call me ( he ALWAYS does) to tell him that 3 doses of Cipro, Lots of liquids and some helping clear my catheter by greasing it with antibiotic ointment. holding it firmly as high as possible so it doesn't pull out completely and with the other hand pinch it as high as possible between my thumbnail and forefinger and slowly sliding it all the way to the bag, pushing the sediment ahead of it into the bag where lots of liquids flush it on out. I have been doing that several times a day and the urine in the tube is almost clear.

I was so happy, I smoked my last bowl ( just ordinary everyday but fairly good bud.

Now all I need is a six month source of med grade bud at a price I can afford. It's harvest season so it shouldn't be too hard. (Hint Hint)

Yeah, yeah.

[Alpha Mare]

All he's worried about is if the doc was going to report his drug results to his probation/parole officer.  My ex-SIL pulled the same crap- contracted Hep C thru drug use and refused treatment because he didn't want to stop using and drinking.

[asdf2231]

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-17-09 12:20 PM

My primary care doctor did a piss test too, but not the drug screen this time. 5 minutes later he came back in to tell me I had a serious urinary infection. Funny the urologist didn't find the infection, only the pot I smoked 3 weeks ago.

He prescribed Cipro. Remember Cipro? That was the drug Cheney put everyone at the White House on a week before the Anthrax Attacks that only got sent to the Bush administration's enemies, Dan Rather, a couple of senators who were about to kill the Patriot Act. Killed a few people including a writer for the National Enquirer who had just done a derogatory story on Bush's daughters.

They never found out who did it.

CIPRO!

JHC...

Somebody PLEASE tell me that this genetic nightmare never managed to reproduce?

[The Village Idiot]

That reminds me. There is a pre-paid debit card with $2.75 on it in the kitchen and I am not sure what to do with it.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Like with his record of profligate dissipation we should believe that bullshit carpet-knife story.  It is to laugh.

[Carl]

Wow!
Another useless piece of shit at the DUmp crying because lifestyle choices they made have had a negative consequence.
Who would have guessed that? 

[NHSparky]

Like with his record of profligate dissipation we should believe that bullshit carpet-knife story.  It is to laugh.

Oh, I dunno--many's the time I toured a new home or wen I bought my place new (prior to carpet installation) that there was a ****ton of blood in the corners, seams, etc...the damned house looked like Freddy Krueger had chased a gaggle of teenagers through the place with a chainsaw...

Uh, DUmmie wiley?  Ever hear of this invention called the GLOVE?  Bare-handed carpet laying?  Not even.  And if you want someone to pay for your bad choices, looks like you have to follow their rules.  Ain't that a bitch?

[GOBUCKS]

the doctor refused to operate because I tested positive for pot. (just a sample joint some 19 year old dealer gave me and it was not at all medical grade.

Classic DUmp democrat!

[whiffleball]

How hard hearted that California Piggy is!  Wiley asked to stay nicely and was ignored.  She didn't even refer to him as "my dear".

[kenth]

He and his crew must have been the worst carpet installers ever. The only people I ever knew who got cut so much at work was at a local glass shop. I worked in a meat market for a few years, and while we occasionally got cut, it was not a daily experience.

[DumbAss Tanker]

He and his crew must have been the worst carpet installers ever. The only people I ever knew who got cut so much at work was at a local glass shop. I worked in a meat market for a few years, and while we occasionally got cut, it was not a daily experience.

It's a lot easier to cut yourself every day on the job if you're always on drugs while you're working.  No connection between the drugs and the Hep, I'm sure, it had to have all been the knives...   

[AllosaursRus]

He and his crew must have been the worst carpet installers ever. The only people I ever knew who got cut so much at work was at a local glass shop. I worked in a meat market for a few years, and while we occasionally got cut, it was not a daily experience.

I guess you never tried laying carpet while being so stoned out of your mind you can't find your ass with both hands.

[kenth]

It's a lot easier to cut yourself every day on the job if you're always on drugs while you're working.  No connection between the drugs and the Hep, I'm sure, it had to have all been the knives...   

He probably just fell on some drugs after laying open a vein down some carpet. Purely accidental.

[AllosaursRus]

He probably just fell on some drugs after laying open a vein down some carpet. Purely accidental.

While a super in construction, the floor guys held the record for using the most meth. They worked mostly at night, was their excuse. Hmmm.....wonder how he could possibly pick up Hep C? Me thinks the sharp objects that made him bleed weren't knives.

[crockspot]

Just how sacred does Wiley think his medical records are going to be when the federal government controls them?

[AllosaursRus]

Just how sacred does Wiley think his medical records are going to be when the federal government controls them?

Sounds to me like the DEA would be interested in them now.

ETA.....He only gets $628 a month from SS? He couldn't have paid much in. Hell, most people get at least $800!

[franksolich]

Sounds to me like the DEA would be interested in them now.

ETA.....He only gets $628 a month from SS? He couldn't have paid much in. Hell, most people get at least $800!

The wily primitive probably made a lot under the table.

Unreported income doesn't get reported to the child-support payment people.

[happy1ga]

Hi all,

Havent posted here in a good while, but still come and read from time to time. This thread caught my eye especially since I have seen a pain specialist for nearly a decade. There are so many holes in the original post that you could drive a semi thru them. There are many drugs to stop nausea, the one he mentioned is generally prescibed for those going thru chemo and the like. It is very expensive, but as always there are drug manufacturers who will donate meds to those who desperately need them. Perhaps not this drug, but one that should work adequately. As for the statement the urologist requires regular urine analysis, uhm, that makes complete sense, of course. Also, if he is seeing a dr for pain mgmt I would assume they would also require regular urine analysis, per the rules that the DEA have as to doling out narcotics. I have been urine tested for going on 10 yrs and the dr knows I am not a drug seeker, but he does enjoy keeping his license. Most gp's dont prescribe long term narcotics for pain mgmt due to the risk to their license. This sounds like total BS to me. I guess they can give him some funds for his weed habit and all the DUmmies can feel good about their charity.

[Texacon]

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-14-09 01:17 PM
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9. No Money. $628/mo SSI Medicaid won't move me out of here

For all those at the DUmp who advocate a Guaranteed Minimum Income who think people will WANT to work because it would be too little to live on ...... I present to you Wiley50.  Who will spend HIS money on pot and beer then come to you with his paypal account.

Glad he's yours and not ours ... unfortunately WE are the ones paying for him.

KC

[whiffleball]

He's got his PayPal account all set up for the DUmmies to support his drug habit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7046714

[diesel driver]

I guess you never tried laying carpet while being so stoned out of your mind you can't find your ass with both hands.

Sounds like some of the workers we had in the warehouse of a trucking company I worked for....

Only the drivers had to have drug tests, the guys loading and unloading trucks didn't....

No forklifts or motorized pallet jacks (good thing, too)....

These stoners couldn't pass a drug test if they'd studied for it....

[whiffleball]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7099190

Newest in this continuing saga of woe, but I can't follow much of it.

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7099190

Newest in this continuing saga of woe, but I can't follow much of it.

The worthless freeloading bum the wily primitive is loaded on dope again.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:13 PM
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Is it OK to Share Something personal with my DU Family Here?

Martin, Do you Remember Dr Turner, the old wobbly socialist retired optometrist, who ran The Book Store on west 8th, a block down from the library. He became my best friend when I was 12. Turned me one to all kinds of leftie books;Started me off with the Beat Poets:Ginsburg,Braughtigan, then Vonnegut,etc,even had me reading Monday Night Class before The Caravan came through my home town and decided to stay.

You know, I think some people thought I was taking too many of my pain pills and that's why I had that spell of losing my balance. But that isn't true. Every Visit at my Primary care/ pain management Dr, his name is Dr Luck, I have to take my pills with me and his nurse counts them out. If even one is missing and I don't have a good reason, I don't get them back and they would dismiss me as a patient. That's why it's so strange that he agreed to let me smoke pot (they often do urine drug screens too) while I'm on Interferon for the third time and even while I'm "shopping" for Medical Grade pot. He knows my life is on the line this time. He's a good man.

That day I stumbled coming up the back steps and knocked over all those chairs and Cindy came flying out the back door screaming that she was telepathic, she wasn't reading my mind. I was just bewildered and embarrassed. If I had my wits about me I'd have said, "We all are. Stephen Gaskin started teaching Martin, me and a few other thousand people that back in 1967. Where were you then?"

I know you don't go to the farm often, but if you are ever there with Cindy, take her to the cemetery and show her my son, Stephen's grave. Pam's is right beside it now. Just tell her that Stephen Gaskin married us and Ina May Delivered our child.
Don't say anymore.

After stephen died, I blamed her in my deep grief that I was in for several years.
She had treated him too rough in my opinion. I wanted him raised in pure love.And then there was the incident when I came home early from work (this is when we were living above the Tye Dye Shop) and heard her screaming and ran in expecting the worst and found it. She was standing above the crib screaming at him and had a pillow raised above her head with both hands, he was crying. I scooped him up and drove to Stephen and Ina May's. They got Vickie M. to keep the baby for a couple of weeks and, since they were leaving for California on a trip, they had us house sit, as a vacation for us, while they were gone. That stayed in the back of my head and every time a doctor told me he didn't know why my baby died and it was odd for a 22 month baby to die of crib death, it ate at my soul.

Pam was from a poor, uneducated family with alcoholic parents and that''s the way she was raised. So that's all she knew, though I patiently tried to teach her. I never should have married her, but I had gotten her pregnant and that's the way us southern boys are raised.Something must have stuck. She chose to be buried at The Farm and had a headstone made for him. it says "The Best Baby"

You can show this one to Cindy if you think it would do any good, but that's not why I wrote it. I'm crying my eyes out now.

Sarah Ibarruri  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-27-09 03:17 PM
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1. Although I'm not certain I understand this fully, I am so sorry

And I hope and wish the best in your life and pray that things will go well.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:24 PM
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6. Thankyou, that is what I need right now, a family

I'm so all alone in this sailboat. That's why I'm always on DU

My blood family all became Republicans, changed their email and phone numbers, just because I am me.

Politics should always take a back seat to Family

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 04:16 PM
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14. Martin is here. We lost contact in the '80's after tthe baby died I moved away

A few months back, a mutual friend (who is a DUer, I inducted him)sent out a group email. Martin saw my email address and we re-connnected.

The only problem is his wife. I've given her several nice gifts including two pairs of seamstress's pinking shears that have been in my family several generations. She's never even said thank you. I stay away from her house (I live in my boat behind their barn, 100 yards away. Martin and I converse via email (this is one of them and by phone (he always calls so she doesn't have to answer and speak to me. and comes up for visits.

Funny thing. Her father loves sailboats and has become my friend and helps me with my projects.

angstlessk  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:19 PM
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3. Well, she cannot be brought to justice now, can she?

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:25 PM
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7. She's dead. Aheart attack

cali  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-27-09 03:21 PM
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4. take care of yourself, wiley.

I know we don't see eye to eye on much, but I wish you the best. hope you can get the help you need.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:48 PM
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13. Being here helps and no I've never gotten along well with Vermonter moderates or vermonter Republicans (not saying you are one)

cali  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-27-09 04:28 PM
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15. OK, I'm gonna be straight with you.

I think you're suffering from some kind of mental breakdown and you really need help. I hope there's someone in real life who can help you get it.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 04:58 PM
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22. I have a counseler and a shrink (mandatory for folks on pain management)

Stephanie  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-27-09 03:21 PM
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5. I'd recommend you delete the names from this post

Not sure why you posted this or what it means, but there is a lot of personally identifiable information that probably shouldn't be posted on a public website.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:33 PM
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10. Stepen and Ina May Gaskin are Hippie Celebrities. The Farm Commune in Summertown is well known

So that's public info. Ina May is the most famous Midwife in the world and publishes The Birth Gazette. Stephen appears at every hippie reunion.

I did change my doctor's name. He's Dr. Luck because I was Lucky to find him.

I didn't use Martin or Cindy's last name, but they are a married couple. Martin and I used to live on The Farm and now I live in my sailboat on their farm and for some reason she's hated me from the start. And I live 100 yards away and almost never go up to their house. Martin comes up here.

She reads Higher mind books and teaches yoga classes but is 20 years younger than martin and I and thinks she is higher minded than I. Now I'm just a sick old man who may be dying.

So I don't think it matters if I relate one chapter what happened in my life when I lived on The Farm Commune.

TwilightGardener  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:25 PM
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8. Sounds like you are having a hard time--but your post reads like a novel with pages missing.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 03:36 PM
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11. only if you are not versed in Hippie Celebrities and Famous Communes

earthboundmisfit  (1000+ posts)     Fri Nov-27-09 04:35 PM
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16. All I can say is 

Nobody as sweet as you should ever have to go through what you've gone/are going through, dear friend.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 04:45 PM
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17. Thanks Mish. We've been friends since 1975

Tell you a secret: I wanted you instead of Delilah, But you wanted Pip (Alpha Male) and see what that got you.

Ever hear from him?

earthboundmisfit  (1000+ posts)     Fri Nov-27-09 04:53 PM
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19. He died in 1996 or 7

Liver cancer.

Wiley50  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-27-09 05:28 PM
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23. Did I ever tell you how Delilah and I got together?

Now, this was 1975, wild and woolly years, as you remember.

She picked up Jimmer and I at The Acme, a place you knew well, you were the Beer Maid, 3.2 beer, the most popular cold beverage in not just Stillwater, but in all of Oklahoma

took us home and did us both. He got up and left. I didn't.

You know, We should all be tested for Hep C, It's literally killing me as we speak. I'm stage 3 with one more attempt to survive the interferon's ferocious side effects for 6 months. I've never made it farther than six weeks and 9 days. The 9 days were when the vomiting and dry heaves set in.

[Carl]

Color me surprised,he has lived a hedonistic,irresponsible life with a pack of similar dump rats and now after having been ravaged by it expects everyone else in society to take care of him.

Not to sound unsympathetic....aww hell,I do want to sound unsympathetic.

Go eff yourself and die you useless pos.

[GOBUCKS]

That next pill count is going to be waaaay off.