http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6910294Oh my.
We'll see, about 28 hours from now.
spanone (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-02-09 04:07 PM
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according to the media, if any republicans win tomorrow, it's all over for the democrats...'a referendum on Obama'....i've been hearing variations on this horseshit all day long....
here's my reply to the media:
after which an image of a nuclear finger
JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-02-09 04:09 PM
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1. They have this misguided idea...
That if they say something long enough, it becomes the truth. That only works for approximately 23% of the citizenry of the USA. The rest of us know bullshit when we see, hear, or smell it.
Showing once more and again that the media hasn't got a ****ing clue what the truth is.
Oh. So the media didn't have a clue about Bo?
gratuitous (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-02-09 04:14 PM
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6. Well of course, it's self evident
By the same token (npi), if every Democrat everywhere across the nation wins his or her race, then it will be all over for the Democrats because they can't possibly do any better, and the GOP will be poised for a comeback. Everything's good news for the Republicans, even being reduced to rump party with electoral strength confined to one small area of the country. That's doubleplus good news!
The spandex primitive resurrects an old joke first told about George Bush:
spanone (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-02-09 04:17 PM
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10. eugene robinson said if Obama cured world hunger, they'd accuse him of promoting obesity
Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-02-09 04:49 PM
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11. If any Republicans win tomorrow, it's all over for the GOP
And I'll tell you why: The Republican party is currently having a quiet civil war within their own ranks between the reasonable old-school "country club" Republicans and the batshit insane teabagger crowd who are hellbent on destroying Obama even if it means destroying the country in the process. Currently, the lunatics appear to be winning and many of those up for election tomorrow are from the lunatic fringe.
If they win (and they might because much of the public is pissed at the Democrats in Congress for not getting the public option done already), then the Republican party will interpret that as a signal to run further to the right. They'll interpret an electorate that is either apathetic or pissed at Dems for not being liberal enough, interpret that as a reason to get more conservative and go full steam toward the right fringe.
That's exactly what they did after the Gingrich landslide which worked for a while but led directly to W and the bloodbaths of 2006 and 2008 and it may work for them for a little while here as well but the further they run to the right fringe, the further away they get from the centre where political battles are won and the more their radicalism frightens people. Importantly, as well, the US is not the same as it was during Gingrich's time.
A whole new population has come of age and they're mostly social liberals, the minority population is much larger and much more politically active and the most recent Republican admin before Gingrich was Reagan/Bush and as bad as they were in many ways, they weren't anything like the visible public calamity of W.
So, that's what I think will happen. They'll interpret any victory in the wrong way, run harder to the extreme right, scare the piss out of everyone reasonable and all the minorities, get absolutely whooped in 2012 (we're talking Reagan-Mondale whooped) and the party will be pretty much done for at least a generation (if it doesn't split).
Oh, I dunno.
spanone (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-02-09 05:12 PM
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13. there's no way to 'lose big' and it's not a referendum on Obama. it's a media fabrication.
Primitives whistling past the graveyard.
