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Offline franksolich

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primitives' confidence slipping
« on: October 27, 2009, 12:10:44 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6866198

Oh my.

The Sears, Roebuck primitive:

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Craftsman (832 posts)      Tue Oct-27-09 12:09 PM
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Worsening job picture fuels slide in confidence
 
CHICAGO (AP) -- Americans' confidence about the U.S. economy fell unexpectedly in October as job prospects remained bleak, a private research group said Tuesday, fueling speculation that an already gloomy holiday shopping forecast could worsen.

The Consumer Confidence Index, released by The Conference Board, sank unexpectedly to 47.7 in October -- its second-lowest reading since May.

Forecasters predicted a higher reading of 53.1.

A reading above 90 means the economy is on solid footing. Above 100 signals strong growth.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Oct-consumer-confidence-s...

I thought Bo was supposed to have all this taken care of at 11:01 a.m. January 20, 2009.

The primitives promised us he would.

Never mind.

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tonysam (772 posts)      Tue Oct-27-09 12:09 PM
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1. I thought the economy was recovering? I guess not.

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Craftsman (832 posts)      Tue Oct-27-09 12:11 PM
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2. No decent paying jobs = no recovery

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Craftsman (832 posts)      Tue Oct-27-09 12:12 PM
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3. No recovery = 2010 dem bloodbath

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Teaser  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-27-09 12:13 PM
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because reasoning based on a single datum is a great way to figure things out!!!

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Craftsman (832 posts)      Tue Oct-27-09 12:14 PM
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5. All the data most families need it to look at their pay stub and see how far it spends

The Allentown dude primitive, who has the hots for Clare Boothe Luce:

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AllentownJake  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-27-09 12:13 PM
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4. There are those living in reality and there are those living in ivory towers.

I'm surprised they are shocked by this. I could have told them this by driving around my hometown and seeing the vacancies in the distribution centers, reading the reports of credit card companies jacking interest rates and requiring annual fees, and by looking on Monster.com.

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joeycola (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-27-09 01:01 PM
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6. I am not shocked as I see the poor job -less pay jobs all around me and my area. 
apres moi, le deluge

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 01:23:10 PM »
I wish I had a copyright on "unexpectedly".

Its been all the rage on the business page since Obama became President.

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 02:57:38 PM »
I maybe old fashioned but 'expert' classification used to mean you were correct 95%+ of the time.  I mean if you miss the target 80% of the time you do not get an expert marksmanship ladder.

Now it has morphed into never gets a prediction correct.
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When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 03:39:05 PM »
October isn't over yet. Isn't that report about a week premature?

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 04:33:27 PM »
October isn't over yet. Isn't that report about a week premature?

Releasing a week early has three effects

A ) first outlet to scoop the news.
B ) buys The One time to 'fix' the numbers
C ) paints a bleak, yet rosier picture than if they waited until the final calculations are in.

None of these present a down side if one is an Obama lovin'  agency such as the A.P.

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 05:02:42 PM »
Releasing a week early has three effects

A ) first outlet to scoop the news.
B ) buys The One time to 'fix' the numbers
C ) paints a bleak, yet rosier picture than if they waited until the final calculations are in.

None of these present a down side if one is an Obama lovin'  agency such as the A.P.

How much coverage will the "revised" numbers get?

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 05:13:23 PM »
American Pravda will report that the numbers are bad but not as bad as experts expected.  So the end of the recession, the worst since the great depression, is fragile but growing thanks to the smartest president ever.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 05:16:16 PM »
I always enjoy having the Unexpected-O's for breakfast though

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Re: primitives' confidence slipping
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 05:18:16 PM »
How much coverage will the "revised" numbers get?

Virtually none, unless they improve. As it always is under Lord Obama.