http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6807964Oh my.
The sparkling husband primitive.
Probably the sparkling husband primitive's wife, busy with her chemistry set, should take an inventory of liquor cabinet.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 01:51 AM
Original message
1st it was by the August recess. Now they're sayiing Xmas.
Should we wait to see whether we get an actual pony or one with faux cotton fill and a nylon faux fur coat. And an inability to eat actual oats.
What're you thinking we're gunna get?
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 01:55 AM
Response to Original message
2. Uh, they've always said by xmas.
End of the year, actually. But xmas is good enough for government work.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. Uh ... define "they"
I recall a lotta chatter about the August recess.
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. The White House. Congressional Dems.
The idea was always to begin starting vague discussions before the August recess, take the August recess and talk to constituents (town hall meetings), then come back and hammer out a bill by the end of the year.
There was some blather on DU about cancelling the August recess so a bill could be written and voted on in August, but I didn't think anybody actually took it seriously.
One doesn't take the primitives on Skins's island seriously, anyway.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. You're wrong
Google "vote before august recess" and you'll read a story of a moving target initially overpromised. I'm not big on posting lots of links no one follows, so I won't. They're there. The first page of hits lists all the stories about them backing away from a vote before the recess.
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. "sweeping health care reform... by the end of the year."
Rahm Emmanuel.
July of this year.
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE56M0HE...
scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. There you go... using facts again
silly Syrup...
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. You said white house and congress.
You point only to Rahm.
Forget it.
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Rahm speaks for the White House.
But whatever floats your boat.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. yes, i know
the original statement to which I replied was far broader.
But you stick with your posse.
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Here's one from Pelosi. Early August.
http://blog.taragana.com/n/pelosi-visits-denver-clinic-... /
But stick with your fail.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. Well, by early august, they had already changed course.
Your turn
(hint: "august recess")
And that refers to the month, not your view of yourself.
LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 01:57 AM
Response to Original message
3. I think Santa is going to be very very generous to the insurance companies. The rest of us will get the equivalent of a lump of coal, and the bill requiring us to pay for it.
pnwmom (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 02:04 AM
Response to Original message
6. Are we there yet, are we there yet?
Patience, grasshopper. Getting a few hundred people to agree on several hundred pages of big and little details isn't an easy or a quick thing.
It was an easy and quick thing to pass the stimulus plan, pages unread.
saracat (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. Funny.They were quick enough with the Patriot Bill!
SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. Fascism is fast, democracy is slow and convoluted.
Such is the nature of things.
Yeah, "fascism" describes how the stimulus plan was passed.
The sparkling husband primitive's wife, looking up from her chemistry set:
Sparkly (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #8
30. And so many other things!!!
It's amazing what a majority can do....
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. I'm not a grasshopper
sandnsea (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 02:14 AM
Response to Original message
7. Maybe we should say "public option"
And rally around all the Democrats who are fighting for the public option, and dispense with all the useless complaining and negativity and see how that works out.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Define "public option"
Do that, and you'll be the first one to do so.
Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 05:13 AM
Response to Original message
9. Remember TARP?
Proposed on Sept 19, 2008, enacted Oct 3, 2008
I can tell you what we aren't going to get..
A cigarette afterward.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Yeah ...... I'm guessing no group sing on the Capitol steps, either.
Was it good for you?
after which a photograph of a couple of Sesame Street puppets, smoking in bed
Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-20-09 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #15
31. It was so good the *neighbors* had a cigarette..
slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
14. A weak "public option" and individual mandates.
SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 06:07 PM
Response to Original message
16. I'm thinking that the point is to get it done.
This was the 800-pound gorilla in the room that no one has managed to bring to heel since 1947. It wasn't going to go down fast or easy, and anyone who thought differently were bound to be disappointed.
I see some form of HCR getting passed before the end of the year, it will not be what we want, it will be a first step, which after 62 years, is an achievement in and of itself.
inna (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 06:10 PM
Response to Original message
18. doesn't really matter since the "deform" doesn't kick in until 2013, anyway.
franksolich suspects it's not going to kick in, ever.
dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 07:48 PM
Response to Original message
26. "What're you thinking we're gunna get?"
screwed.
Alas! the poor primitives! alas! forever fated for failure, the primitives! alas!