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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #100 on: April 23, 2008, 10:19:52 AM »
WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...

this is big news...

Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...

many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...

maybe the bungles & cards can swap  ?? ::)

however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #101 on: April 23, 2008, 10:39:27 AM »
WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...

this is big news...

Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...

many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...

maybe the bungles & cards can swap  ?? ::)

however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this.  I don't think Johnson is going anywhere.  Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick.  I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move.  And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald.  He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #102 on: April 23, 2008, 10:52:49 AM »
WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...

this is big news...

Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...

many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...

maybe the bungles & cards can swap  ?? ::)

however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this.  I don't think Johnson is going anywhere.  Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick.  I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move.  And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald.  He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.

marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...

unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...

what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis  & booting out ALL riff-raff....  that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course) 

yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #103 on: April 23, 2008, 12:11:06 PM »
WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...

this is big news...

Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...

many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...

maybe the bungles & cards can swap  ?? ::)

however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this.  I don't think Johnson is going anywhere.  Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick.  I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move.  And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald.  He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.

marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...

unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...

what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis  & booting out ALL riff-raff....  that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course) 

yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great

Farking..  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:

Cincinnati should (likely won't) trade Chad away. Hey-soos on a pogo-stick just look at what the Chiefs got for Allen!

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Vikes, Chiefs make blockbuster deal for DE Allen
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8061676/Vikes,-Chiefs-make-blockbuster-deal-for-DE-Allen

The former Chiefs player has agreed to terms with the Vikings, Allen told FOXSports.com exclusively, on a contract that makes him the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. The deal is for six years and just under $74 million, including a stunning $31,000,069 guaranteed — 69 is his jersey number.

The Vikings will give up their 2008 first-round draft pick as well as two third-rounders, and the teams will swap sixth-round picks.

Boldin has the same trouble as Ocho though. He's under contract. I think Boldin has the same agent as Ocho-Stupido too which may mean trouble ahead. The big difference is Boldin deserves a new contract. Chad Johnson has his contract improved twice in his time in Cincy. (what a douche... I hope the moron does sit out. And I like my Bungles)
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #104 on: April 23, 2008, 12:47:00 PM »
WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...

this is big news...

Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...

many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...

maybe the bungles & cards can swap  ?? ::)

however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this.  I don't think Johnson is going anywhere.  Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick.  I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move.  And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald.  He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.

marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...

unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...

what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis  & booting out ALL riff-raff....  that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course) 

yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great

Farking..  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:

Cincinnati should (likely won't) trade Chad away. Hey-soos on a pogo-stick just look at what the Chiefs got for Allen!

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Vikes, Chiefs make blockbuster deal for DE Allen
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8061676/Vikes,-Chiefs-make-blockbuster-deal-for-DE-Allen

The former Chiefs player has agreed to terms with the Vikings, Allen told FOXSports.com exclusively, on a contract that makes him the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. The deal is for six years and just under $74 million, including a stunning $31,000,069 guaranteed — 69 is his jersey number.

The Vikings will give up their 2008 first-round draft pick as well as two third-rounders, and the teams will swap sixth-round picks.

Boldin has the same trouble as Ocho though. He's under contract. I think Boldin has the same agent as Ocho-Stupido too which may mean trouble ahead. The big difference is Boldin deserves a new contract. Chad Johnson has his contract improved twice in his time in Cincy. (what a douche... I hope the moron does sit out. And I like my Bungles)


hence, marvin lewis's fault...  these liberals never learn do they?? ... they should've never caved for chad in the 1st place...

and yeah, boldin is better & he's got better character to a certain degree...

cincy is a LOST CAUSE man....

ocho stupido is one of NFL networks role models & cameo guys .......and the dumbass owners can't seem to figure out why their players cause more problems everyyear :mental:

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #105 on: April 23, 2008, 01:22:08 PM »
WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...

this is big news...

Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...

many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...

maybe the bungles & cards can swap  ?? ::)

however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this.  I don't think Johnson is going anywhere.  Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick.  I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move.  And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald.  He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.

marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...

unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...

what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis  & booting out ALL riff-raff....  that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course) 

yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great

Farking..  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:

Cincinnati should (likely won't) trade Chad away. Hey-soos on a pogo-stick just look at what the Chiefs got for Allen!

Quote
Vikes, Chiefs make blockbuster deal for DE Allen
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8061676/Vikes,-Chiefs-make-blockbuster-deal-for-DE-Allen

The former Chiefs player has agreed to terms with the Vikings, Allen told FOXSports.com exclusively, on a contract that makes him the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. The deal is for six years and just under $74 million, including a stunning $31,000,069 guaranteed — 69 is his jersey number.

The Vikings will give up their 2008 first-round draft pick as well as two third-rounders, and the teams will swap sixth-round picks.

Boldin has the same trouble as Ocho though. He's under contract. I think Boldin has the same agent as Ocho-Stupido too which may mean trouble ahead. The big difference is Boldin deserves a new contract. Chad Johnson has his contract improved twice in his time in Cincy. (what a douche... I hope the moron does sit out. And I like my Bungles)


hence, marvin lewis's fault...  these liberals never learn do they?? ... they should've never caved for chad in the 1st place...

and yeah, boldin is better & he's got better character to a certain degree...

cincy is a LOST CAUSE man....

ocho stupido is one of NFL networks role models & cameo guys .......and the dumbass owners can't seem to figure out why their players cause more problems everyyear :mental:

Yeah, Lewis has been bad news. One look at the Bengals schedule ought to be enough to tell you he is in his last year. Gunna be a long year down at the local pub in my Housh shirt. (hey, I can't wear all Tatupu all the time, people look at you funny)

Marvin Lewis farewell tour...
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamSchedule?categoryId=67041
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

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http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #106 on: April 23, 2008, 01:59:08 PM »
Countdown to the Draft
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OK... that was post whoring.  :p

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"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2008, 08:55:57 AM »
Pats just signed Defensive Lineman Kenny Smith...

a guy they cut from training camp last year....

probably nothing, but it could mean they won't be picking sedrick ellis ??

I say the Jets are after Vernon gholston at this point...

 they lost two starting LB's & they've picked up only 1  & they're a 3-4 D... plus, as the joke rebel yell posted said, "mangini is more concerned w/ trying to get belichick than anything else', and word was gholston was the Pats pick since sometime last year.....

and either gholston, long or dorsey WILL still prolly be around at #6 ...

the PATS  are gonna try & move up to the chiefs spot .... does herm have hard feelings towards the JETS ?? cause they are trying to grab that spot too....if so, SORRY NY, herm gives you the FINGER  :bird: ...

Pats move up to the chiefs spot & either grab gholston or dorsey if he's still around, or trade that spot to the saints for EVERYTHING the saints got that ain't tied down :naughty: ....unless of course  the rams swap w/ the saints....

it would work for the chiefs because they need Oline & at the #7 spot they will still have their choice of clady,  albert or one of the other big boys, but will see a significant dropoff in salary at #7 ...
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2008, 09:25:47 AM »
Pacman Jones to Cowboys

I wonder how long it will be before he and TO rumble?
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #109 on: April 24, 2008, 09:34:33 AM »
Pacman Jones to Cowboys

I wonder how long it will be before he and TO rumble?

shoooot....

 he & TO will prolly become partners in TO's 'other career' .... (ie, internet porn) ... it sperfect, pacman has a knack for seeking out hookers (ie: strip clubs) & TO already seems to have  a knack for making porno (& lots of money) http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2153532#post2153532

chances are, these two will end up in federal prison if paired up together :loser: ...

me thinks goodell may not let pacman back into the league this year... odell thurman sat out two years for his baffoonery & I think pacman will too considering pacman loose in dallas, with TO, could be a nightmare for goodell & the NFL...  (don't forget about Tank Johnson)
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #110 on: April 24, 2008, 01:07:55 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #111 on: April 24, 2008, 01:52:02 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
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"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #112 on: April 24, 2008, 02:04:59 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #113 on: April 24, 2008, 02:35:34 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2008, 02:39:11 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #115 on: April 24, 2008, 02:42:05 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two.  None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either.  And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #116 on: April 24, 2008, 02:44:46 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two.  None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either.  And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.

anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...

but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....

you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...

don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories  for profits ...

its rare today to have a franchise like the Patriots, whose owner is smart & 100% dedicated to VICTORY above all else (or he loses his ass because he's the ONLY owner who actually had to pay for his own stadium)

miami dolphins owner obviously isn't one of those 100% dedicated to victory....but bringing parcels in is a HUGE step in the right direction
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #117 on: April 24, 2008, 02:50:19 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two.  None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either.  And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.

anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...

but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....

you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...

don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories  for profits ...


I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him.  I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats.  Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had.  Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think.  The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow.  No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long.  ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams.  Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games.  Sad.
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #118 on: April 24, 2008, 02:55:41 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two.  None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either.  And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.

anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...

but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....

you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...

don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories  for profits ...


I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him.  I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats.  Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had.  Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think.  The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow.  No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long.  ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams.  Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games.  Sad.

exactly  why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to... (huge black population too & last time I checked, drew brees ain't black  :lmao:)

LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless  (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:

LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....

no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #119 on: April 24, 2008, 02:58:57 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two.  None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either.  And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.

anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...

but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....

you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...

don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories  for profits ...


I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him.  I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats.  Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had.  Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think.  The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow.  No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long.  ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams.  Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games.  Sad.

exactly  why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to...

LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless  (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:

LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....

no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta
ATL had a good O Line.  It's just hard to block when you don't know where in the hell you QB is gonna be.  And it wasn't the podunks that were filling the GA Dome during the Vick era.  It was ALWAYS dark in the GA Dome.
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #120 on: April 24, 2008, 03:02:19 PM »
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)

From your article...
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"The only way Jason Taylor won't be playing for the Dolphins in 2008 is if he chooses to retire," Parcells said.

I tend to think Parcells means that, though he could just be pushing the price up. One thing I can't see is Parcells letting Taylor go to the Pats. (so the Phins can loose by 40 intead of 30 pts?? lol)

I tend to agree with Reb that there will not be a run on QB's in round one. Though, the Chiefs are sure to get one now that they have two high first round picks so who knows. Maybe I'm wrong... hell, I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see a bunch of QB's go in round one and have one of the better O-linemen fall to Seattle at 25. If they can't get one, I hope a team like Miami or Atlanta trades up with Seattle for extra picks.

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #121 on: April 24, 2008, 03:05:21 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two.  None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either.  And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.

anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...

but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....

you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...

don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories  for profits ...


I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him.  I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats.  Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had.  Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think.  The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow.  No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long.  ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams.  Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games.  Sad.

exactly  why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to...

LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless  (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:

LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....

no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta
ATL had a good O Line.  It's just hard to block when you don't know where in the hell you QB is gonna be.  And it wasn't the podunks that were filling the GA Dome during the Vick era.  It was ALWAYS dark in the GA Dome.

bwahahahahahaaaa ....

and yeah, the falcons had a good line....but not as good as san diego  & LT would've still been real good...

but drew brees has a tendancy to get OWNED in the playoffs, so I think your fate would've been the same w/ brees/LT, as it was w/ Vick & all those other running backs when it came to crunchtime in the playoffs ( minus all the extra $$$ cause Vicks show was starring somewhere else)

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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2008, 03:12:03 PM »
Jason Taylor on the trading block now

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story

Patriots ?

Cowboys ?

Chargers ?

whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D  :lmao:

then again, taylor  has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4  ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...

Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit

Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.

How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
 :lmao:

I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...

but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...

and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick  on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots)  the rest of the pack is 20 plus

and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...

rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on.  No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.

what if they're after brohm ?

brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two.  None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either.  And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.

anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...

but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....

you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...

don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories  for profits ...


I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him.  I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats.  Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had.  Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think.  The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow.  No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long.  ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams.  Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games.  Sad.

exactly  why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to...

LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless  (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:

LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....

no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta
ATL had a good O Line.  It's just hard to block when you don't know where in the hell you QB is gonna be.  And it wasn't the podunks that were filling the GA Dome during the Vick era.  It was ALWAYS dark in the GA Dome.

bwahahahahahaaaa ....

and yeah, the falcons had a good line....but not as good as san diego  & LT would've still been real good...

but drew brees has a tendancy to get OWNED in the playoffs, so I think your fate would've been the same w/ brees/LT, as it was w/ Vick & all those other running backs when it came to crunchtime in the playoffs ( minus all the extra $$$ cause Vicks show was starring somewhere else)

To quote Jim Mora, Playoffs!!!!???.  Let me repeat, the franchise has never had back to back winning campaigns, never.  Granted, Vick did win in Green Bay, but that was the high point of his career.  What the Falcons need is consistency.  And a QB with a little accuracy.  Vick could hit water if he fell out of a ****in' boat.  With at least the threat of completing a pass, the running game would flourish.  Little Warwick Dunn looked damned good when he wasn't having to share carries because he was too little to be an every down back, which was bullshit.  
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Re: NFL FA begins (Philly grabs Samuel)
« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2008, 03:21:11 PM »
Here is a model of Dallas' new uniforms.








Also available with Bengal stripes.  :bawl:

LOL
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826