What would you do if *they* really start coming to get us?

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Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:47 PM
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What would you do if *they* really start coming to get us?
 No - not the Underwear Gnomes - but say we start seeing RW Paramilitary groups like they have in Columbia, Honduras and Guatemala?

Friends of yours are kidnapped without the police doing anything

People are taken out of their homes and never seen again

The Police uses the paramilitaries to do the dirty work they can't

You may say "That could never happen here!"

That's what folks thought in Chile in 1973. Before Pinochet, Chile was a democracy longer than any other Latin American country. Many people said "No puede hacerlo aqui!" and it hacerlo'd there.

 

 

no_hypocrisy  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-30-09 12:49 PM
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1. I think some of us would have a second look at the Second Amendment if it came to that.

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:50 PM
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2. Resist, of course.
 What else? I don't see that coming, though, in the near future. If it did, though, I could put up a pretty good fight.

For now, though, the tools for that fight remain in the safe.

  Sukie (420 posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:50 PM
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3. The thing is
 70% of Americans are the "us" and only about 20-25% are the "they". "They" should be the ones that are worried. LOL

OffWithTheirHeads  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-30-09 01:05 PM
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18. +1
 But I did stock up on a few thousand rounds when it looked like McPalin had a chance

kestrel91316  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:52 PM
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8. I'm not afraid of this sort of thing under Obama, lol. Under Bush, however,
 I was a bit nervous. With my views on things I definitely qualified as an enemy of the state at the time.

You were a flyspeck on the ass of the world you dunce.  Oh wait... YOU STILL ARE!

leftstreet  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-30-09 12:52 PM
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9. Wouldn't we need an actual resistance movement in the US first?
 What are they going to come and "get us" for?

guitar man  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-30-09 01:05 PM
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17. Stand my ground
 I'm well armed, stocked up on ammo and very well trained in their use. I didn't pay my home off to be run out of it, and neither did my neighbors who are also armed, stocked up on ammo and well trained in their use. They would rue the day they came into my hood, I can guarantee that

haele  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 01:26 PM
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26. It's not the federal government you have to worry about here - 
 It's the local governments in the pockets of special interests. The small-town sheriff. The local Church, err, County board of Supervisors. The DA and his or her cronies. The "elect" - the hereditary checkbox winner for state or federal representative.
These are the ones who have their power derived from the local political structure, which too often is a feudal entity in nature, either kowtowing to some local "gentry", corporate interest, or church. These entities can command their own private army of fellow-travelers and know-nothings to organize, intimidate, or "cleanse" a district; usually by dis-enfranchisement, disillusionment or outright running the competing entity(be it a business, a political/social organization, or a family) "out of town on a rail".

Disappearances have already happened in this country. Think Rosewood, Florida. Think the many small, rural towns, be they in California, New York, Montana, or the South - where people who try to organize or "do good" in their communities are harassed, convicted in kangaroo courts, forced to move, or murdered.

"It Can't Happen Here" -

Sorry folks, it's already happened here many times. Just on a small, localized scale. The actual nation-wide horror will finally hit when these small time "bosses" are sold the idea that being a big fish in the local small pond is not enough, and can band together long enough to force their short-lived "3rd Revolution/Civil War" on the United States - with, of course the help of the wealthy corporate greedheads that are looking to carve their own personal Kingdoms of Heaven on Earth out of the chaos.

Some f**ks, especially wealthy f**ks, don't want more money, they want power of life or death - they want ultimate control of their own personal environments, to create themselves in the image of their Ghod. If they live in a democracy, they can't have that. So they use their money and their hysteria, and their dedication to their "vision" to destroy democracy that was developed by intelligent, imperfect people who cared to live in a country where equality under the law and government could be for the benefit of the people at large and the minority interests could be protected.
When the United States is broken down into every piss-ant local boss's "Amurikkka", when we become the Somalia of the Western Hemisphere because the blind, pig-people who supposedly represent everyone in their communities decide instead they want to represent the largest pot of money that is waved in their direction, then "It Happened Here"

Haele

AlienGirl  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 01:27 PM
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27. Record; hide; flee; report. And help others get safe.
 My plan would be to document everything, hide till it passes if the danger to myself was not immediate, get over a border as soon as it became immediate, blow whistles from abroad; and do whatever I could along the way to help others who need it get to safety.

Even though I have discovered I have a knack for getting little bits of lead to land where I want them to, I know I don't really have a lot of stamina or strength. I would not make a good Resistance fighter.

I am kind of a doom hobbyist and find some comfort in having a plan for every possible worst-case scenario.

Tucker

[The Village Idiot]

Run away, run away

[GOBUCKS]

I guess we can dream.

[BEG]

I have a feeling that Sukie is a mole.  Polls say that only around 20% consider themselves liberal....liberals are always projecting so it makes me think Sukie is trying to get her street cred.  BadCat is that you?  You love True Blood (I know it's spelled Sookie but thought maybe you were trying to pull one over on them). 

Sukie (420 posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:50 PM
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3. The thing is
 70% of Americans are the "us" and only about 20-25% are the "they". "They" should be the ones that are worried. LOL

[BadCat]

I have a feeling that Sukie is a mole.  Polls say that only around 20% consider themselves liberal....liberals are always projecting so it makes me think Sukie is trying to get her street cred.  BadCat is that you?  You love True Blood (I know it's spelled Sookie but thought maybe you were trying to pull one over on them). 

Not me, I like Sookie too much to spell her character wrong.

[BEG]

Not me, I like Sookie too much to spell her character wrong.

How did I know you would have the hots for Sookie?

[DumbAss Tanker]

I would never want to see things come to that, but if it did, the correct answer for them would be "Die like snakes on Whacking Day."

[jukin]

I think we all know the real Dummy answer is "Hide behind my momma."

[ColonialMarine0431]

Actually, most DUmmies SHOULD be taken away...

[LC EFA]

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:47 PM
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What would you do if *they* really start coming to get us?
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Seeing that we're talking about DU members here  - They'd probably scream and cry for a bit - then adopt the position.



 

[USA4ME]

Taverner

What would you do if *they* really start coming to get us?

If we really started coming to get you, rest assured you wouldn't know it until after it had already happened.

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[Ogre]

If it ever came to that, the DUmmies would shit there pants, and turn on each other faster than anyone could imagine.

[GOBUCKS]

If it ever came to that, the DUmmies would shit there pants, and turn on each other faster than anyone could imagine.

You can't be sure of that. They could always choose the option of going blind.

[NHSparky]

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:47 PM
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What would you do if *they* really start coming to get us?
 No - not the Underwear Gnomes - but say we start seeing RW Paramilitary groups like they have in Columbia, Honduras and Guatemala?

Friends of yours are kidnapped without the police doing anything

People are taken out of their homes and never seen again
The Police uses the paramilitaries to do the dirty work they can't

You may say "That could never happen here!"

That's what folks thought in Chile in 1973. Before Pinochet, Chile was a democracy longer than any other Latin American country. Many people said "No puede hacerlo aqui!" and it hacerlo'd there.

Sounds like they're afraid of what the illegals are doing on a daily basis on our border towns.  Is this the "they" of which you speak, DUmmies?

[JohnnyReb]

The really brave DUmmies would write a sternly worded letter to Lord Obama.... sprinkled liberally with F-words.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The really brave DUmmies would write a sternly worded letter to Lord Obama.... sprinkled liberally with F-words.

...With fake names and no return addresses!

 

[debk]

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-30-09 12:47 PM
Original message
What would you do if *they* really start coming to get us?
 No - not the Underwear Gnomes - but say we start seeing RW Paramilitary groups like they have in Columbia, Honduras and Guatemala?

Friends of yours are kidnapped without the police doing anything

People are taken out of their homes and never seen again
The Police uses the paramilitaries to do the dirty work they can't

You may say "That could never happen here!"

That's what folks thought in Chile in 1973. Before Pinochet, Chile was a democracy longer than any other Latin American country. Many people said "No puede hacerlo aqui!" and it hacerlo'd there

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no_hypocrisy  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-30-09 12:49 PM
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1. I think some of us would have a second look at the Second Amendment if it came to that.

Hmmmm.....I seem to remember there was a guy that so many of the people were really impressed with. Young guy...different from others.

He got himself elected to head up the government.

Got himself some people who would do anything he asked....they adored him....they worshipped him.

Damn...what was his name? 


Oh......it was Hitler....






First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

by:Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

[Chris_]

Oh for Christ sake...these morons were posting the same delusional rantings
when W was Prez.

God what morons.

[Reality vs DU]

 

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no_hypocrisy  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-30-09 12:49 PM
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1. I think some of us would have a second look at the Second Amendment if it came to that.

Holy shit, anyone notice the name of this DUmmy?  Isn't that hypocrisy DUmmy?  On top of that he/she/it is admitting someone could need guns to oh, I don't know, DEFEND THEMSELVES?

[crockspot]

How did I know you would have the hots for Sookie?

mmmmm... Sookie....

I like the way Bill says her name.. SOOK-eh.

[BEG]

mmmmm... Sookie....

I like the way Bill says her name.. SOOK-eh.

Are you sure you are a man? 

[crockspot]

Are you sure you are a man? 

You need some proof? I'd be happy to fire up my webcam. 

[BEG]

You need some proof? I'd be happy to fire up my webcam. 

Woo Hoo

[Mr Mannn]

Yeah Primitives talk a tough game, but death squads don't play fair. They won't give people an opportunity to fight back. When you least expect it is when they will strike.

[Airwolf]

I would say that even if any DUmmie is as armed as they claimed it wouldn't do jackshit for them. That lever action 30-30 you bought on sale at wally world wouldn't have half the range of the Hellfire missile that was coming at your front window if any paramilitary guys "were" coming for you. They are not going to waste their time trying to go after you with tear gas and harsh language.