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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2009, 03:04:50 PM »
Leave it to Hollyweird to defend the indefensible. After all, Whoopie Goldberg is considered to be one of their greatest "voices" - a woman who dabbled in prostitution, has recurring addictions to every drug imaginable, and has had seven abortions throughout her life.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2009, 03:39:11 PM »
She said today the only molesting she had happen is the times she did it to herself and still does to herself. I can see why yuck!
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2009, 07:50:52 PM »
I watched this yesterday.

The clip has sort of been taken out of context and ends before the whole thing....what Whoopi was trying to get across, was that Polanski was not found guilty of rape. Her point was that they (the women on the show) could not say - on tv - that Polanski was "found guilty of RAPE" ...when that was not true.

He was found guilty of improper behavior with a minor child or something like that....she had a earpiece that was telling her exactly what it was he was found guilty of....and I can't remember the exact wording. That what he did...while it was rape....it was done with the mother's knowledge. Sick yes....disgusting yes. So yes is was rape....but it wasn't a rape that was the type of rape where some beast grabs a woman as she's walking to her car, knocks her around and rapes her. And apparently the California court thought that because the mother agreed to it, the kid was drugged and SUPPOSEDLY didn't protest or seem upset about it....it was more a "statutory rape" which is consensual.

If someone says something like that (on TV)----"Polanski was found guilty of rape" ----- and he actually wasn't...they can be sued for slander. That's why whenever someone is talking about someone who has been arrested....they must say the person ALLEDGEDLY did such and such.

Whoopi also said that the girl was there with her mother's permission and that she thought the girl's mother should have been arrested for endangering her child, too. She was not excusing Polanski in any way....

Some things you have wrong.

He was indicted for rape, and pled out to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor... which is commonly known as statutory rape.

Her Grand Jury Testimony is on the Smoking Gun.  She says she told him "no" at least a dozen times.. you can count the times she says "no" yourself.

What ever happened to "no means no"? 

She was 13 at the time, she could not legally consent.

This was rape, pure and simple.



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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2009, 09:10:14 PM »
Some things you have wrong.

He was indicted for rape, and pled out to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor... which is commonly known as statutory rape.

Her Grand Jury Testimony is on the Smoking Gun.  She says she told him "no" at least a dozen times.. you can count the times she says "no" yourself.

What ever happened to "no means no"? 

She was 13 at the time, she could not legally consent.

This was rape, pure and simple.


The balls of that man, the bloody nerve, not Polanski but Woody Allen to sign that partition in favor of Polanski.

Sort of like Ted Bundy writing a plea to the court for leniency for Jeffery Domar.

Now I am of the mind that a female of any age has the right to say NO.  If they are 85 years old in a coma that does not give anyone the right to have sex with them because the old lady never resisted in any way.

If a female is drunk, drugged, in a coma, is scared to death to resist, she cannot give consent and that is rape-rape.

A 45 year old man who is world famous gets the mothers consent to film her 13 year old daughter at the home of a major Hollywood star.  Somehow mother  does not accompany her daughter feeling she is good hands. I mean really what could happen to her daughter being in the company of people known world wide.  This could mean a big break for her child ,who knows, the sky is the limit.

Daughter comes home and tells about being drugged, plied with Champagne and having sex with the old fart.

Mom heads out for the police as fast as she can and puts in a complaint.

Now I heard Woopie ask " Where was the mother.?"   Like it was the mothers fault, she should go to jail but leave the rapist alone, not his fault the mother was not there.


 


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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2009, 07:51:37 AM »
Some things you have wrong.

He was indicted for rape, and pled out to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor... which is commonly known as statutory rape.

Her Grand Jury Testimony is on the Smoking Gun.  She says she told him "no" at least a dozen times.. you can count the times she says "no" yourself.

What ever happened to "no means no"? 

She was 13 at the time, she could not legally consent.

This was rape, pure and simple.



I'M not saying it wasn't rape.

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He was found guilty of improper behavior with a minor child or something like that....she had a earpiece that was telling her exactly what it was he was found guilty of....and I can't remember the exact wording

I was repeating what happened on THE VIEW.....


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Now I heard Woopie ask " Where was the mother.?"   Like it was the mothers fault, she should go to jail but leave the rapist alone, not his fault the mother was not there.

Any mother who lets her 13 yo daughter go into a situation like that ....as far as I'm concerned is negligent and responsible for what happened to the child!!

There is no way on God's little green earth, that I would have let my 13 yo daughter be alone for a "photo shoot" with a 40 something yo man!
I didn't let my 13 yo daughter go alone into an examining room with a doctor...why would I let her be alone with anyone else?




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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2009, 12:08:58 AM »
 :o  Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2009, 12:28:22 AM »
:o  Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.

He has not been convicted of rape, but the description of the crime makes it obvious that it was rape.  He gave alcohol and drugs to a 13 year old girl, then had sex with her after she said no.  Under who's definition of rape is that not rape?

You, and everybody else who is defending Polanski, is disgusting for attempting to defend behavior that is quite simply indefensible.  I don't care how much time has passed.  He spent the last 30 years partying it up in Europe, why should I have sympathy for him?

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2009, 12:33:48 AM »
He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2009, 05:46:55 AM »
:o  Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.

The only reason 30 years passed is because Polanski ditched out from serving his time for a crime he was convicted of, you moron! This isn't about reoffending at this point, it is about serving the time(punishment if you will) for your crime. What good is the punishment handed out to someone if they are rich and quick enough to get out of the country before they can serve it?

Your 18/17 year old mumbo jumbo is just that. He was a mature man in his 40's who plyed a THIRTEEN year old girl with alcohol and drugs. That's not quite the same as a couple of teenagers knocking boots in the back of the car and daddy gets pissed because he doesn't like 18 year old boyfriend and files charges. That you can make a moral equivalence like that speaks more for your character and broken sense of morality then anything.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2009, 05:51:58 AM »
He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.

Are you serious? My God, there are people in this country who truly are broken, in their minds at least.

Just one point because your 'sins of the US' thing is just too ridiculous to address:

It's funny how you talk about 'real criminals'. You mean the type that abuse their power and financial status for their own personal gain or benefit? You mean kind of like a rich liberal director with ties who can use his power and influence to skip out of the country before he serves his sentence for violating a child? Hmmmmm...you have a point;-)

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2009, 08:07:37 AM »
The only reason 30 years passed is because Polanski ditched out from serving his time for a crime he was convicted of, you moron! This isn't about reoffending at this point, it is about serving the time(punishment if you will) for your crime. What good is the punishment handed out to someone if they are rich and quick enough to get out of the country before they can serve it?

Your 18/17 year old mumbo jumbo is just that. He was a mature man in his 40's who plyed a THIRTEEN year old girl with alcohol and drugs. That's not quite the same as a couple of teenagers knocking boots in the back of the car and daddy gets pissed because he doesn't like 18 year old boyfriend and files charges. That you can make a moral equivalence like that speaks more for your character and broken sense of morality then anything.

Exactly. There's a reason the law is written to protest children from predators. And yes, any grown man who does what Polanski did to a 13 year old girl is preying on her.
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2009, 08:08:39 AM »
He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.

Wow, you covered a lot of talking points. Yawn. :whatever:
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2009, 08:22:37 AM »
You know, I'm not surprised that liberals are defending Polanski.  This is the same group that thought it was funny when David Letterman made a joke about Gov. Palin's 14 year old daughter having sex with a baseball player.  I assure you that if you ask most libs, and they're honest about it, they believe Age of Consent laws shouldn't exist.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2009, 08:46:51 AM »
:o  Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2009, 09:33:37 AM »
Whoopie is nuanced, you cretins.





















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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2009, 09:41:30 AM »
:o  Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.

So you think the number of people in support of him should be the determining factor and not the truth?  Wow, just WOW.  You would have made a good li'l Nazi.  18 on 17 and 40 on 13 is apples and poisoned oranges.  FAIL.
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2009, 11:32:57 AM »
:o  Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.

So, if you, at the age of 13, were given illegal drugs and alcohol, and despite saying NO a number of times, was still anally violated, you wouldn't consider that rape?

And yeah, it IS right to convict someone of a crime.  It's wrong to run for 30 years.  Justice delayed is justice denied.
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2009, 11:41:45 AM »
Yep, and Ira Einhorn and Mumia Abul Jamal (two other heroes of the left) are getting a bum rap, too.

I'm the father of young daughters. He needs to be in jail. Not freaking celebrated by you idiots.
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2009, 02:55:56 PM »
He shouldn't live in fear of the United States Governement, Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us, He is old and has had to live with this crime for his life, I have been told that his victim has forgiven him so why cant the U.S. Government, makes no sense at all, some people would jail everyone for everything, even the smallest thing like posessing a little pot would be reason enough to spend life in a jail cell, then you guys bitch about high taxes, the taxes are the fault of the failed judicial system in which we focus on old news and minorities instead of the real criminals like the CEO of AIG and Ford.


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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2009, 05:01:48 PM »
:o  Come on people it was thirty Years ago the man is in his seventies and it abviously wasn't really rape or people wouldn't be defending him, What she Means is that rape rape is when you forcibly have sexual realtions with someone, where rape can be any kind of rape like... statuatory rape, if you are 18 and have sex with a 17 year old that could be statuatory rape, its not right to convict someone for this especially if its 30 years later.

Uh, Polanski must face the music like anyone else accused of rape.
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2009, 06:03:32 PM »
Why do we have to scare everyone in the world its a sin what our country does to people, we bully the world and individuals who dont agree with us

Please explain.   

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2009, 11:54:19 PM »
People you are missing the point, It was obviously consensual and this forcible thing is just a made up attempt of those in the right to destort the truth, I don't see why so many people would be supporting him if he were truly wrong, why would they put their carrers on the line, btw I am originally from Philadelphia and later moved to NJ, however I don't support Mumia he shouldnt be in jail if he cant be proven to have killed the officer, imagine if it was you and you were framed for murder, it would suck, but I really think mumia did do it, however it is just like the OJ case, but the only reason OJ got away with murder was becuase of his celebrity status Mumia wasn't famous and thats why he is in jail.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2009, 11:55:52 PM »
People you are missing the point, It was obviously consensual and this forcible thing is just a made up attempt of those in the right to destort the truth, I don't see why so many people would be supporting him if he were truly wrong, why would they put their carrers on the line, btw I am originally from Philadelphia and later moved to NJ, however I don't support Mumia he shouldnt be in jail if he cant be proven to have killed the officer, imagine if it was you and you were framed for murder, it would suck, but I really think mumia did do it, however it is just like the OJ case, but the only reason OJ got away with murder was becuase of his celebrity status Mumia wasn't famous and thats why he is in jail.

It was obviously consensual? Are you a ****ing retard? First off, it was NOT consensual. Secondly, a Damn 13 year old cannot consent to sex with an adult.

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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2009, 11:59:38 PM »
This idiot is a mole, people. No way in hell someone can be this stupid.
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Re: Whoopi Defends Polanski: ‘It wasn’t rape-rape.’
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2009, 12:23:59 AM »
So everyone who disagrees with you is stupid. Try having a real debate instead of avoiding the facts and resorting to name calling. This policital tactic is dead, this is how they destoryed Clinton, guess you guys would have never guessed he was going to be such a great president, admired by all.