America's longest 'wars', same shit, different president?

[Freeper]

Philosoraptor  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Sep-26-09 09:26 AM
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America's longest 'wars', same shit, different president?
   
Man, was I stupid and naive to dare to dream that bush's two endless wars would end. Now I don't see them as bush's wars anymore, but America's.

Wars that aren't really wars, wars without end, wars without a noble purpose, wars that are more or less forgotten by the American sheeple, except for those who are directly affected by it, wars that no one wants to own, or end.

I expected better from Obama and his administration, and I still hold out hope, but to me this looks like the same old bush shit. I'm tired of the never ending justifications and bullshit excuses for continuing these obscenities we call wars.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6633830

Tell you what Mo Paul when you start screaming for grabbing pitchforks and storming the white house I will take your outrage seriously. Your guy is in office and still fighting the same wars and the best you can do is piss and moan a little then go back to crying gimme free health care.

HamdenRice  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Sep-26-09 09:27 AM
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1. Have you noticed that the administration is winding down Iraq? nt

The cry was Out of Iraq now for 8 years now you are willing to be patient?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Philosoraptor  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Sep-26-09 09:26 AM
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America's longest 'wars', same shit, different president?

Not quite; the Bush administration was willing to put enough surge force into Iraq at the critical time to allow it to be essentially won before Obama took over, in the face of stiff Defeatocrat opposition.  The Obama administration on the other hand does not want to follow the military recommendations of his own picked CINC to increase the ground force commitment, inevitably dithering his way to defeat but without making a clean break to minimize our own casualties.

It's really Bush wins the first game in the double-header, starts in the second but then the relief pitcher screws it up royally and walks about sixteen consecutive batters (Yeah I know the Afghan war actually started first).

[Lord Undies]

Have you ever figured out why the American left is always against the American military and American wars?  It's simple.  The American military and American wars stand against evil.  Evil is our enemy.  That makes the American left very uncomfortable.

Now, on the other hand, if the USA was to send troops into Honduras in an attempt to stop the spread of Good, the American left would be behind it 100%.  Oh, they'd lie about the reason they support it, and they would try to get as many normal people as possible to believe anything but the truth, but they would not be able to contain their enthusiasm for the evil cause.

[MrsSmith]

Have you ever figured out why the American left is always against the American military and American wars?  It's simple.  The American military and American wars stand against evil.  Evil is our enemy.  That makes the American left very uncomfortable.

Now, on the other hand, if the USA was to send troops into Honduras in an attempt to stop the spread of Good, the American left would be behind it 100%.  Oh, they'd lie about the reason they support it, and they would try to get as many normal people as possible to believe anything but the truth, but they would not be able to contain their enthusiasm for the evil cause.

You've got to believe that evil is real before you can support those that fight it.  With the thoughtless belief of moral relativity to cling to, the left has no ability to distinguish actual evil.  This is why they hate those that represent the light.

[Chris_]

You've got to believe that evil is real before you can support those that fight it.  With the thoughtless belief of moral relativity to cling to, the left has no ability to distinguish actual evil.  This is why they hate those that represent the light.

Well said......

doc

[crockspot]

You've got to believe that evil is real before you can support those that fight it.  With the thoughtless belief of moral relativity to cling to, the left has no ability to distinguish actual evil.  This is why they hate those that represent the light.

Exactly. To them, there is no evil. What we call evil is just a symptom of poor social indoctrination.