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Suspected flag burner pilloried
« on: September 26, 2009, 06:18:57 AM »


VALLEY FALLS -- The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=846181#ixzz0SD6HQmAf



Good on the VFW Post Commander.  I wish this was done more often.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 06:52:52 AM »
What's his DU name?
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 07:19:34 AM »
I'm surprised he wasn't hoisted to half-staff and set on fire.  Seems appropriate to me, anyway.

Besides, what VFW posts serve to non-members?  Hell, my VFW post doesn't even HAVE a bar.  The Legion post does, and they're positively anal about only serving members and signed-in guests.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 07:31:03 AM »
 :-)

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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 08:01:27 AM »
 WTG VFW !! :cheersmate:
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2009, 09:47:54 AM »
Nice to see that the good guys are finally fighting back.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2009, 09:59:24 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on September 26, 2009, 07:19:34 AM


Besides, what VFW posts serve to non-members?  Hell, my VFW post doesn't even HAVE a bar.  The Legion post does, and they're positively anal about only serving members and signed-in guests.

My post serves non-members, BUT, they have to be a guest of a member, by law. The reason that so many posts are anal about this is because they are normally licensed as a Non-Profit Organization. Once they start serving the general public, they could lose that non-profit status in many states. YMMV depending on your state laws.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM »
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ****ing stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2009, 01:45:02 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ****ing stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.


How about vandalism, ****-knuckle?

ETA: Tell ya what--come on over to my place and try to burn my flag.  Duct tape will be the least of your worries.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2009, 01:47:09 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ****ing stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.


You can take your "opinion" and shove it up your ass, fluffy.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2009, 01:57:44 PM »
Quote from: BadCat on September 26, 2009, 01:47:09 PM
You can take your "opinion" and shove it up your ass, fluffy.

Oh stfu already BC, I doubt you pasty ass is going to brave going outside to meet me today.  Be sure to bring one of those big bad firearms you're always talking about.  Should this meeting come to blows it's the only thing that's going to save you, slapnuts.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 01:59:15 PM »
It's now official:

 :picsneeded:

I want blood and mashed face cell phone pics in the Fight Club.  This oughta be a hoot.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2009, 02:02:00 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
Oh stfu already BC, I doubt you pasty ass is going to brave going outside to meet me today.  Be sure to bring one of those big bad firearms you're always talking about.  Should this meeting come to blows it's the only thing that's going to save you, slapnuts.

I was planning on it.
But I don't think you'll be there.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 02:12:43 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ******* stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.


Just like a lib to not even consider property rights, vadalism or the fact that the citizen chose the punishment over having a criminal record.

VFW "shut down", "unlawful detainment"? Please. The folks at the VFW should get an award and detainment isn't unlawful if the guy volunteers. Bad try though sparky.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 02:57:57 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
Oh stfu already BC, I doubt you pasty ass is going to brave going outside to meet me today.  Be sure to bring one of those big bad firearms you're always talking about.  Should this meeting come to blows it's the only thing that's going to save you, slapnuts.

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You're new here. Since when does a person have a right to destroy another person's private property while trespassing on that person's property? The person in question was asked to leave the premises,
that does not bestow or endow any rights to anybody. When this individual chose to destroy private property, the so called Freedom of Speech canard that you outlined goes out the window.

Why? for the simple reason of public safety.

That is why you can leave a movie theater of your own free will, but you can't falsely yell "Fire!" in the same crowded movie theater. The Law will track you down and charge you with a minimum of creating a public disturbance.

Stick around you might learn some things.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2009, 03:00:11 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
Oh stfu already BC, I doubt you pasty ass is going to brave going outside to meet me today.  Be sure to bring one of those big bad firearms you're always talking about.  Should this meeting come to blows it's the only thing that's going to save you, slapnuts.

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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2009, 03:08:01 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2009, 03:08:38 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ******* stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.

Well apparently it is your flag-burning buddy that is the stupid one. He could have chosen the turned-into-police option.

The VFW was pro choice, they gave him one.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2009, 03:24:09 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ****ing stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.


Are you really this ****ing stupid? Or is it an act? If I see your Obama bumpersticker-plastered Yugo, and decide to beat the hell out of it with a bat, am I "just exercising my first amendment rights"?

God, you're a dumbass.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2009, 03:36:06 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ******* stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.

You should be retroactively aborted F***TARD!
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2009, 04:17:54 PM »
Quote from: Lleu on September 26, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Turned into police?  For what?  Exercising his first amendment rights?  "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it"  You people really are ****ing stupid aren't you?  The VFW post should be shut down and those responsible should be arrested for unlawful detainment.


Hey asshole, the flag was the property of the VFW and was on their premises. Moonbat ****tards like yourself self-pwn every time. You can't help it, you're just too stupid.

Try exercising your "first amendment rights" by coming on my property and burning my stuff. You'll be taking your meals through a straw for the next six months.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2009, 04:28:29 PM »
Quote from: ReaganForRushmore on September 26, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2009, 04:46:30 PM »
It's good thing that this incident didn't happen in Texas. We have a RIGHT to protect our property here through the use of deadly force. Hell, I can protect my neighbor's property through the use of deadly force. Ohh, since I am a Quartermaster of the local VFW, I would be within my rights to use deadly force on a vandal because of my position. My position requires me to protect the assets of the VFW. **** you Llue, you ****ing liberal retard.
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2009, 05:02:56 PM »
Quote from: dandi on September 26, 2009, 04:17:54 PM
Hey *******, the flag was the property of the VFW and was on their premises. Moonbat ****tards like yourself self-pwn every time. You can't help it, you're just too stupid.

Try exercising your "first amendment rights" by coming on my property and burning my stuff. You'll be taking your meals through a straw for the next six months.

I believe that the only reason this young man was not charged with Arson, domestic terrorism, causing public alarm and distruction of private property was that a member of his family was a past Commander of the Post.

He really got an easy way out of trouble, what is 6 hours but a brag in the bars for the  other creeps.

He did not want to get a police record and spend time with BABA in jail for 6-8 months, he refused to go one on one with a member of the legion, so for 6 hours he with bathroom breaks, water to drink had to face a bunch of kids marching past him.

ARGGGGGGGGG  WOW what a punishment.

Pilloried in the original sense was much different. I would have loved to have seen him punished as in the old days in my part of the country.

Sun up to sun down, those to be punished were allowed all they could drink of water and even food.------No bathroom breaks, as they were on display the town folk were free to pelt them with rotten meat and vegetables.  The town had a great time shouting and ridiculing those that had broken the law.

12 not 6 hours and those on display with no bathroom breaks began to smell to high heavens and the experience of being in the sun for 6 hours with crap in their pants was not pleasent.  Not pleasent getting a rotten piece of meat full of maggots in the face and a really foul piece of chicken in the hair.

This kid got off light because of family connections.  Give me a break, us Yankees knew how to make the no gooders change their ways.

Now if that boy had been the son of people that had no dealings with the Legion, he would today be still in jail with Buba and cursing about how unfair life is.

Today he is most likely off somewhere with his friends bragging about how he withstood 6 freaking hours being Pilloried.---- Perhaps he will write a book and make money on his traumatic experience. :fuelfire:






 
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Re: Suspected flag burner pilloried
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2009, 06:13:21 PM »
I've been absent for awhile, and just now noticed that there's no longer the thingie where I can bitchslap people. Can you put it back just on Lleu's profile? He needs one.

I love this story, however the choice of police or 1 on 1 with a Vet would have been enough choices to give him I say. He should have had his ass stomped (either by the Vet, or by Buba in jail after the jailer happened to mention to Buba what he was in for).
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