Gloria Swanson primitive advising on Medicaid, again

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6616613

Oh my.

By the way, the Gloria Swanson primitive did a real knock-out, drag-out, on the greedy briar primitive--the thread is stickied to the top of the DUmpster here; it's a great lot of fun to read.

Anyway.

YOY  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-23-09 09:08 PM
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Teabagger committing Fraud or Just Highly Unethical?

'Kay folks. Here's the story. Unemployed son of multimillionaress. Ages 56 (the son). Has not been employed since he got fired for saying something highly racist to a coworker years ago. Has lived with mom ever since (15 years).

He's been sick for a little while. Problem with a leg. No insurance. I did mention his mother owns dozens of properties that she rents? Has not want for anything.

This guy says some rather teabaggerish things. Bitches about the Socialist in the white house ad nauseum.

So we just found out that this guy is applying for medicaid...to take care of the problem with his leg.

On edit: 450 lbs but not on disability as far as we know.

You've got all the facts. Is this guy committing fraud or just being a hypocritical unethical bastard?

Wow.....that could be Fat Che.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:15 PM
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3. Does he qualify?

He'll get it if he qualifies, and that could be difficult, since he gets his spending money from his Mom, right? He'll have to prove his income, or lack of it, to the right people.

He does sound like a real winner, though. A real dreamboat. How did any woman let THAT ONE get away, I wonder?

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:26 PM
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12. I've seen Medicaid applications - I've helped clients with them - and they ask about EVERYTHING. One woman had deposited $50 that she got as a Christmas present from an old boyfriend into her checking account - which had something like $8 in it - and the social worker wanted to know EVERYTHING about where she got that $50.

You really have to have nothing to qualify for Medicaid. At least that's how it is here in Virginia. It's really for the truly poor.

And, as always, there's the warning printed at the end, the one about criminal penalties and the Federal government.

YOY  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-23-09 09:24 PM
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10. At 450 lbs you really gotta wonder.

He's a biggun.

It sounds more and more like Fat Che, whose belly hangs down in front of him, like an apron.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:27 PM
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13. That wasn't in the OP - is he getting SS disability, I wonder?

YOY  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-23-09 09:32 PM
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16. We honestly don't think so.

Unless he applied for that and we never heard of it. The mommy is a fair-weather friend to an a very sweet elderly lady in our hood who is spitting tacks at the thought of him getting social medicine when he bitches about it.

She is one cool old girl. (our neighborhood friend...not the mommy).

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:35 PM
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17. How would you know?

This is the kind of stuff I love - how would you possibly know that he's receiving SS disability?

YOY  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-23-09 09:38 PM
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19. Old ladies talk.

The mommy and a good friend of ours belong to an ethnic club and play cards together. Our friend is the only one of a quartet of them who is not a citizen and not a Republican.

They talked...that's how we found out about medicaid application.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:45 PM
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20. I really do love this stuff - my Dad worked in the Post Office - long ago - and always knew exactly who was now getting the Black Lung pension. He took great delight in telling on them, especially since most of them had never worked in a coal mine.

People talk. Thanks for the explanation. Everyplace is a small town, after all.

izquierdista (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-23-09 09:36 PM
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18. If it's all in her name 

Then he may qualify. But any joint accounts with "substantial" assets in them that he can draw on would disqualify him.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:46 PM
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21. No, if he benefits from her money, as if, she's paying his rent, or supplying him with room and board, that's considered "income" for the sake of Medicaid eligibility, and is taken into consideration.

Emit  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-24-09 12:35 AM
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28. There are countable and non countable assets that are considered at application

But I do not know whether mommy paying his rent is considered a countable asset or not:

extraneous matter edited out

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-24-09 12:42 AM
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29. Yes, well, my experience is with Virginia Medicaid, helping people apply, filling in the forms, working with social workers, jumping through the hoops.

Countable, non-countable, none of that matters, at least here in Virginia. What you have is what you have, and the application is so thorough, so exhaustive, it's impossible to have something, anything, of value that is not going to be accounted for on that document.

His mother paying his rent is counted as income. That's a basic. And it counts.

And here comes a nice little reverse bouncy:

madamesilverspurs  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-23-09 09:49 PM
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22. Sounds like he's cut from the same cloth as a woman I spoke with a few years back. She was all bent about being 'deprived' just because she had stuff to show for her hard work. Turns out that she'd gone to Social Services and applied for food stamps, and she was highly miffed that she was denied. In her opinion she was being unjustly punished because she and her husband had several bank accounts, a house, a vacation home, a pickup, an SUV, and cars for each of their three children. And a motorhome. And a boat. Fortunately for me I only cross paths with her by accident about every two or three years, and the last time was this summer: she was smack dab in the middle of the crowd at the bussed-in anti-reform rally.

franksolich scents a ball bouncing down.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:53 PM
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24. Are you kidding?

She had all that, and wanted FOOD STAMPS?

God, I love the human species. They never fail to surprise - and entertain - me.

YOY  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-24-09 09:30 AM
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33. Wow...unreced...wonder why.

Story is true...This is one of those threads that get neither rec nor unrec.

I guess we just have a bunch of asshole trolls here.

[GOBUCKS]

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:45 PM
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20. I really do love this stuff - my Dad worked in the Post Office - long ago - and always knew
exactly who was now getting the Black Lung pension. He took great delight in telling on them,
especially since most of them had never worked in a coal mine.

People talk. Thanks for the explanation. Everyplace is a small town, after all.

In this case, the arrogant and obnoxious, but charming, DUmmy TLB is right. Having been raised
in coal mining country, I know the black lung scheme is among the most abused and fraud-laced
federal giveaway programs ever established.

It is not a benefit extended to men who have contracted a life-threatening disease from their
employment. In fact, until it passed the widespread existence of the condition it addresses was
controversial to say the least. In practice, it is a Great Society supplemental pension for members of
the United Mine Workers. In practice, the main qualification is to prove you have worked in
a UMW job, in or out of the mine. The UMW and its staff doctors take care of everything else, and 
everyone gets the benefit. If there is any whiff of an obstacle, Senator Byrd's staff takes care of
it. The normal practice is to retire and apply for Social Security, mineworkers pension, and black lung. It
is a Great Society giveaway (though I think it was finally passed under Nixon) designed to buy
the dependence and democrat votes of Appalachian whites. It worked until the democrats went
insane and started pushing queers and gun control. Now it's just a giveaway.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-23-09 09:53 PM
24. Are you kidding?
She had all that, and wanted FOOD STAMPS?
God, I love the human species. They never fail to surprise - and entertain - me.

I wonder if she knows DUmmy greenbriar was asking about shopping at a food bank. I think
it may have been before DUmmy TLB became arrogant and obnoxious, and started making
several hundred posts per day. They could have some great conversations about that.

[AllosaursRus]

she was smack dab in the middle of the crowd at the bussed-in anti-reform rally.

Guess what MadamForkedTongueDevil, sure, we buss people in. We all pool our money, rent the bus, and make a party out of it. Thus, saving each other a ton of money on gas and shrinking our carbon footprint. Ya know, kinda what you guys shriek about every 2 minutes or so. Doubt you will ever admit it though.

Can you astroturf, asshats, say the same? Didn't think so. If you had to spend any of your money, you would never show up!

[JohnnyReb]

The scammers are mad because someone else wants in on the scam......