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BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« on: September 15, 2009, 05:06:45 PM »
Bush Said Palin 'Not Prepared' for VPAOL News

(Sept. 15) - George W. Bush didn't think too highly of John McCain's pick of Sarah Palin to be his running mate, according to one of the former president's speechwriters.
In a new memoir titled 'Speech-less: Tales of a White House Survivor,' excerpts of which appear in the current issue of GQ magazine, Bush staffer Matt Latimer describes his boss's initial reaction to the news that McCain had chosen Palin. According to Latimer, Bush's take was somewhat playful, if not dismissive:

Former President Bush addresses the National Governors Association in February 2008, six months before John McCain named Sarah Palin as his running mate.

"'I'm trying to remember if I've met her before. I'm sure I must have.' His eyes twinkled, then he asked, 'What is she, the governor of Guam?'"
Further elucidating his views before what Latimer describes as a stunned White House gathering, Bush continued:
"This woman is being put into a position she is not even remotely prepared for. She hasn't spent one day on the national level. Neither has her family. Let's wait and see how she looks five days out."

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Interesting.....While I am inclined to agree with him...I think the liberals did enough to ruin her career...we really don't want someone from the the same party joining in....just my .02

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 05:17:45 PM »
Interesting.....While I am inclined to agree with him...I think the liberals did enough to ruin her career...we really don't want someone from the the same party joining in....just my .02


All this stuff always comes out well after the election, and usually from lower level staffers like this guy.

Sounds to me like it was the typical President Bush reaction, kind of a smart-ass remark.  I wouldn't read a whole lot into it, IMHO.
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 05:33:53 PM »
Given the choice, I'll take Sarah Palin's proven conservative/libertarian credentials over either President Bush's.  Both of them did many things right in their service to the country, but CONSERVATIVE, SMALL-GOVERNMENT ACTIVIST, or (little "L") LIBERTARIAN they were not.
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 05:38:59 PM »
What was President Bush's opinion the next week?

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 05:39:01 PM »
If he was serious, it seems like kind of a silly thing to say, since he had no experience whatsoever in national politics when he ran for President, either.  There may have been an element of irony lost on the listener, or W may have just been talking out his ass, you can't tell.  Between W setting the stage economically through pretty much losing focus on a domestic economic agenda until the bus was already headed over the cliff, and McCain's singular lack of appeal to the Conservatives, she was the only thing that brought the GOP within smelling distance of winning.     
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 05:47:11 PM »
All this stuff always comes out well after the election, and usually from lower level staffers like this guy.

Sounds to me like it was the typical President Bush reaction, kind of a smart-ass remark.  I wouldn't read a whole lot into it, IMHO.

Neither would I  - GWB teased everyone mercilessly - Its the way he is -- just ask 'turd blossom' ..

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 05:54:29 PM »
If he was serious, it seems like kind of a silly thing to say, since he had no experience whatsoever in national politics when he ran for President, either.  There may have been an element of irony lost on the listener, or W may have just been talking out his ass, you can't tell.  Between W setting the stage economically through pretty much losing focus on a domestic economic agenda until the bus was already headed over the cliff, and McCain's singular lack of appeal to the Conservatives, she was the only thing that brought the GOP within smelling distance of winning.     

I'm tired of all the Bushes, too, but I think this aide might have been taking the Palin remarks out of context, too. He could've been talking about how he knew the MSM was going to trash Palin and her family and/or it could've been a sarcastic remark about what a total doofus Barack Hussein Obama was/is.

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 05:57:52 PM »
I believe nothing printed by anyone that came out of the WH except GWB and Darth Rove.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 06:12:21 PM »
^exactly.

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 07:27:48 PM »
I bet he was joking he does not seem that mean nor heartless
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 07:37:09 PM »
Between supporting illegal immigration...Harriet Miers...and the first bailout...it's safe to say that Palin wasn't too much of a fan of former President Bush either.
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 07:41:07 PM »
Doesn't sound like Bush at all.  He must've had some respect for her as a Governor, afterall, she was the most qualified candiate to be President in the General Election...more than Obama, Biden and McCain combined ! 

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 07:43:08 PM »
I tend to think that being a former governor, that President Bush would have taken the time to know the names of the governors.  I call BS, or he was trying to be sarcastic/funny, implying that 0Bama was a no name senator also.

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2009, 08:24:59 PM »
If he was serious, it seems like kind of a silly thing to say, since he had no experience whatsoever in national politics when he ran for President, either.  There may have been an element of irony lost on the listener, or W may have just been talking out his ass, you can't tell.  Between W setting the stage economically through pretty much losing focus on a domestic economic agenda until the bus was already headed over the cliff, and McCain's singular lack of appeal to the Conservatives, she was the only thing that brought the GOP within smelling distance of winning.     

Hi,

HER STATE IS BIGGER THAN THE STATE BUSH GOVERNED ALSO.

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 08:27:52 PM »
Hi,

HER STATE IS BIGGER THAN THE STATE BUSH GOVERNED ALSO.

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SHHHHHHH!!!  We're trying not to confuse the Texans here...
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 08:40:04 PM »
SHHHHHHH!!!  We're trying not to confuse the Texans here...

When Alaska has fought it's own war for independence...been it's own country separate from the U.S. and had it's own currency...get back to me.
 

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 08:40:35 PM »
LINK

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But Jason Recher, who served as special assistant to President Bush and as a traveling aide to Palin during the campaign, said the former President was well aware of Palin — especially since the two met in person in Alaska just three weeks before Palin was added to the Republican ticket.

During a stopover in Fairbanks on the way to the Beijing Olympics last August, Recher said Bush met with Palin and even made a knowing reference to her rising reputation in the Republican Party.

"The president was fully aware of who Sarah Palin was," Recher told CNN. "Even so much that when he greeted the governor and Todd in Fairbanks during a re-fueling stop on the way to the Beijing Olympics, he threw open his arms and said "Madam Vice President!'"


Whoops--looks like our boy Roy just got caught telling a whopper!

I mean, it's not like he's trying to sell any books or anything, right?
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 08:43:41 PM »
When Alaska has fought it's own war for independence...been it's own country separate from the U.S. and had it's own currency...get back to me.
 

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STFU before we cut Alaska in two and make Texas the THIRD largest state.   :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2009, 08:45:57 PM »
I noticed some other tidbits from the OP where they had a link to the GQ article...

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_10957

About the author:
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Matt Latimer worked as one of Dubya’s speechwriters during the president’s final twenty-two months in office. He was there to help sell the surge to a skeptical public. He was there as we pretended that the fundamentals of the economy were strong. And he was there to see a president who failed to grasp his own $700 billion bailout package—even as he was pitching it to the American public on live TV. A disillusioned insider reveals for the first time just how messy things got

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to this day, I don’t really understand what happened.
In the first months I worked at the White House, I wrote any number of speeches praising America’s economic prosperity. There’d been month after month of uninterrupted job growth, after-tax income was increasing, exports were rising, inflation was down. “The fundamentals of our economy are strong,” we’d write. Because that’s what we’d been told. And as far as I could tell, the president was told the same thing by his economic advisers, led by Secretary Paulson. Paulson had been brought into the administration by Josh Bolten, the White House chief of staff. They’d both worked at Goldman Sachs. Paulson had been one of the highest-paid CEOs on Wall Street, making at least $30 million a year, and had an MBA from Harvard (like President Bush). Paulson was supposed to be a nonideological, pragmatic, sensible type. He was bald with glasses and had a scratchy voice that sounded like he had a thousand-dollar bill caught in his throat.


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The president was clearly frustrated with what was going on, but there was little he could do at this late hour. He went up to take a nap, saying he was beat. He looked it. I’d never seen him more exhausted. His hair was out of place and shaggy. His face looked drained and pale. Even more distressing, he was wearing Crocs. As I looked at him I thought to myself, how many more crises can one guy take?
WTF Crocs? :lmao:

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Choosing John McCain as our standard-bearer would be the height of self-delusion. It would be like putting Camilla Parker Bowles in charge of the Princess Diana Foundation.

As it turned out, I was the one who was deluded. The people I worked with in the White House were the most loyal of the Bush loyalists. Dana Perino was so sensitive to criticism of Bush that she once said she couldn’t watch the Democratic convention because it would be “too mean” to the president. Yet I watched them embrace McCain enthusiastically—backing a guy who’d worked so hard to undermine them. It was a cynical bargain.

The president, like me, didn’t seem to be in love with any of the available options. He always believed Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic nominee. “Wait till her fat keister is sitting at this desk,” he once said (except he didn’t say “keister”). He didn’t think much of Barack Obama. After one of Obama’s blistering speeches against the administration, the president had a very human reaction: He was ticked off. He came in one day to rehearse a speech, fuming. “This is a dangerous world,” he said for no apparent reason, “and this cat isn’t remotely qualified to handle it. This guy has no clue, I promise you.” He wound himself up even more. “You think I wasn’t qualified?” he said to no one in particular. “I was qualified.”


The president didn’t think much of Joe Biden either. “Dana, did you tell them my line?” the president once asked with a smile on his face.
“No, Mr. President,” Dana replied hesitantly. “I didn’t.”

He paused for a minute. I could see him thinking maybe he shouldn’t say it, but he couldn’t resist. “If bullshit was currency,” he said straight-faced, “Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” Everyone in the room burst out laughing.

Bush seemed to feel considerable unease with the choice of McCain as well. I think he liked Romney best. (The rumor was that so did Karl Rove.) My guess was the president hadn’t so easily forgotten the endless slights he’d suffered, but there was little he could do. To him, McCain’s defeat would be a repudiation of the Bush administration, so McCain had to win. The president, who had quite a good political mind, was clearly not impressed with the McCain operation. I was once in the Oval Office when the president was told a campaign event in Phoenix he was to attend with McCain suddenly had to be closed to the press. The president didn’t understand why when the whole purpose of holding the event had been to show Bush and McCain together so the press would stop asking why the two wouldn’t be seen together. If the event was closed to the press, the whole thing didn’t make sense.

“If he doesn’t want me to go, fine,” the president said. “I’ve got better things to do.”

Eventually, someone informed the president that the reason the event was closed was that McCain was having trouble getting a crowd. Bush was incredulous—and to the point. “He can’t get 500 people to show up for an event in his hometown?” he asked. No one said anything, and we went on to another topic. But the president couldn’t let the matter drop. “He couldn’t get 500 people? I could get that many people to turn out in Crawford.” He shook his head. “This is a five-spiral crash, boys.”

I didn’t have anything against Governor Palin from what I knew about her, which was next to nothing. The instantaneous reaction to Palin at the White House, however, was almost frenzied. I think what was really going on was that everyone secretly hated themselves for supporting McCain, so they latched onto Palin with over-the-top enthusiasm. Even the normally levelheaded Raul Yanes, the president’s staff secretary, was overtaken by Palin mania. He’d been slightly annoyed with me for not jumping on the McCain bandwagon and for saying aloud that I thought McCain would lose. Now, of course, I had to be enthusiastic about the ticket. “You still think we’re going to lose?” he asked me laughingly.
“Yep,” I replied.

Raul looked incredulous. “Well, you obviously don’t believe in facts!”

I was about to be engulfed by a tidal wave of Palin euphoria when someone—someone I didn’t expect—planted my feet back on the ground. After Palin’s selection was announced, the same people who demanded I acknowledge the brilliance of McCain’s choice expected the president to join them in their high-fiving tizzy. It was clear, though, that the president, ever the skilled politician, had concerns about the choice of Palin, which he called “interesting.” That was the equivalent of calling a fireworks display “satisfactory.”

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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 08:48:33 PM »
STFU before we cut Alaska in two and make Texas the THIRD largest state.   :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

You're just jealous because we have Counties that are bigger than your entire state.   :tongue:
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 09:19:09 PM »
You're just jealous because we have Counties that are bigger than your entire state.   :tongue:

Yep.  And pissing on a patch of dirt doesn't make it a river.

At least not here.

No, the only reason I might be jealous is the fact that ya'll treat liberals the way they SHOULD be treated--beaten like red-headed stepchildren.

Oh, wait--that's not entirely true, either.  Just ask Jackson-Lee, Hinojosa, or Reyes, to name a few.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2009, 09:20:20 PM »
Yep.  And pissing on a patch of dirt doesn't make it a river.

At least not here.

No, the only reason I might be jealous is the fact that ya'll treat liberals the way they SHOULD be treated--beaten like red-headed stepchildren.

Oh, wait--that's not entirely true, either.  Just ask Jackson-Lee, Hinojosa, or Reyes, to name a few.

But you have to admit we do a damn fine job of keeping them in one area where they can't do much harm.
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Re: BUSH not a fan of PALIN
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2009, 09:21:56 PM »
............since he had no experience whatsoever in national politics when he ran for President, either........................     

BUT..................HE is from an Elite Family. That and that alone is more than sufficient to turn a skill set worthy of a WalMart undermanagership at best among the little people into Presidential Materiel. Breeding tells don'tcha know.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2009, 09:26:51 PM »
But you have to admit we do a damn fine job of keeping them in one area where they can't do much harm.

Yeah, but next time, nuke 'em from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2009, 09:27:29 PM »
BUT..................HE is from an Elite Family. That and that alone is more than sufficient to turn a skill set worthy of a WalMart undermanagership at best among the little people into Presidential Materiel. Breeding tells don'tcha know.

Yep--or inbreeding, in your case.
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