ACORN is being targetted by the right in a classic COINTELPRO type attack.

[bijou]

ddeclue  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Sep-15-09 01:46 AM
Original message
ACORN is being targetted by the right in a classic COINTELPRO type attack.
   
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 01:56 AM by ddeclue


<rant>
...SNIP ... The people behind the recent release of those videos allegedly showing various ACORN employees advising on how to avoid getting caught running an underage prostitution ring are engaged PRECISELY in an organized effort to discredit and disrupt the ACORN organization as a whole by tricking low level ACORN employees into saying stupid or illegal things on tape without any knowledge that they were being taped.

Moreover we don't know anything at all about just how many ACORN offices Ms. Hannah Giles and Mr. James O'Keefe visited and what exactly they recorded in other offices that refutes their attempt to smear the whole organization. How many offices and how many tapes did they record before they got the ones they released? All we get to see is what they want us to see - a few bad and/or stupid apples.

We are then being subjected to these few anecdotal videos and psychologically pressured to make false generalizations from them about a whole organization based on cherry picked videos designed to play on blatantly racist stereotypes of African Americans and based on obviously lurid and contrived circumstances intended to generate the highest level of visceral reaction by the public.

Any fool with the internet can conjure up video of people acting stupidly or even criminally on YouTube who are in the employ of or acting on behalf of some organization that can't possibly know what all of its employees is doing all the time.

I'm not merely referring to big box retail store employees or fast food chain employees - I referring to law enforcement officers, members of the military, and even airline pilots.

For that matter we've witnessed a Republican Congressman acting badly on the floor of the House in a Presidential address to Congress in a joint session before the whole country this week - and a professional tennis player act badly as well in front of thousands of fans at the US Open and millions on TV.

Want some examples?

Here you go: ... SNIP...

I edited the OP to make it readable.

woo me with science  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Sep-15-09 01:57 AM
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1. It's a bitch when you are tricked into supporting child trafficking on camera.
   
Give me a break. If this were a right-wing organization, you'd be justifiably outraged.

PWN3D 

LINK

Very funny thread, the Acorn supporters are getting a pasting.

[ScubaGuy]

Funny thread.

It's always fun watching DNoClue getting slapped around.

Of course no thread of his is ever missing the following post:

ddeclue  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Sep-14-09 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. OK whatever pal..
   
I'm a degreed aerospace engineer, a professional computer programmer and systems engineer, a licensed pilot, and a musician amongst many other things. My grasp of "concepts" is I'm sure far above your own.

All you've done is gone on and on about your own opinion of COINTELPRO. Guess what: It's JUST your OPINION. Get over yourself already - disprove the central thesis of the OP if you can and stop wasting everyone's time.

[DumbAss Tanker]

ddeclue  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Sep-14-09 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. OK whatever pal..
   
I'm a degreed aerospace engineer, a professional computer programmer and systems engineer, a licensed pilot, and a musician amongst many other things. My grasp of "concepts" is I'm sure far above your own.

And I was a Ranger SEAL Pararescue Marine in Viet Nam, boyee!!!111!!!

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

OK, another DUmmy logic question.  Why would the FBI be having a COINTELPRO-type operation with 0bama in charge of the FBI?

[Odin's Hand]

OK, another DUmmy logic question.  Why would the FBI be having a COINTELPRO-type operation with 0bama in charge of the FBI?

They probably think it is a rogue element acting independently within the agency...which it is...the VRWC lives!

[TheSarge]

OK, another DUmmy logic question.  Why would the FBI be having a COINTELPRO-type operation with 0bama in charge of the FBI?

Because in their opinion he's Bush's 3rd term.

[bijou]

OK, another DUmmy logic question.  Why would the FBI be having a COINTELPRO-type operation with 0bama in charge of the FBI?

Obama thinks he's in charge of the FBI, we know it is run by karl Rove from his secret lair in the Utah desert.

[Splashdown]

That's one of the funniest DU threads I've read in a long time. Thanks!

[Ralph Wiggum]

Didn't COINTELPRO ostensibly end when J. Edgar Hoover died?

And I love the jokes, BTW.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

By all means DUmmies trumpet your love of ACORN loud and proud.

And be sure to mention Obama's past work with them so as to lend street cred.

[AllosaursRus]

By all means DUmmies trumpet your love of ACORN loud and proud.

And be sure to mention Obama's past work with them so as to lend street cred.

No kidding! Obummer is knee deep in ACORN's mafia!

[USA4ME]

ddeclue

37. Ahh someone who continues to ignore what they don't want to hear.

You DON'T get to blame an organization for the behavior of a few bad apples.

Where was this primitive when his fellow primitives were saying the whole military and the mindset it encourages (as they view it) was to blame for a few renegades?  That's right, he was probably right in the middle of them saying that you can blame an organization for the behavior of a few bad apples.  Hypocrites.

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[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

No kidding! Obummer is knee deep in ACORN's mafia!

I would also add that if the videos are doctored, as some of the DUmmies insist, then the fired employees should sue ACORN for wrongful termination.

[Chris_]

DUClueless  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Sep-14-09 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. OK whatever pal..
   
I'm a degreed aerospace engineer, a professional computer programmer and systems engineer, a licensed pilot, and a musician amongst many other things. My grasp of "concepts" is I'm sure far above your own.

All you've done is gone on and on about your own opinion of COINTELPRO. Guess what: It's JUST your OPINION. Get over yourself already - disprove the central thesis of the OP if you can and stop wasting everyone's time.

Horseshit.  From one engineering professional to "another" I say put up or shut up, pal.  There are only 3, maybe 5 at most, "AEROSPACE" Engineering programs that I'm aware of in the entire country, and two of those are on the Embry Riddle campuses.  All of those programs are less than 15 years old.  All three of those vocational pathways are so disparate that you would have had to spend the majority of your adult life on a college campus - assuming that you're over the age of 45 to begin with.  (Given that you are a DUmbass, though, that is the one thing that makes your bid for DUmp cred even plausible, even as it dumps your credibility on the subject at hand right out the poop chute.)

 

[miskie]

Horseshit.  From one engineering professional to "another" I say put up or shut up, pal.  There are only 3, maybe 5 at most, "AEROSPACE" Engineering programs that I'm aware of in the entire country, and two of those are on the Embry Riddle campuses.  All of those programs are less than 15 years old.  All three of those vocational pathways are so disparate that you would have had to spend the majority of your adult life on a college campus - assuming that you're over the age of 45 to begin with.  (Given that you are a DUmbass, though, that is the one thing that makes your bid for DUmp cred even plausible, even as it dumps your credibility on the subject at hand right out the poop chute.)

 

I think what he meant to say is people in High School teased him by calling him Sally Spaceshot.

[LC EFA]

ddeclue  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-14-09 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. OK whatever pal..
   
I'm a degreed aerospace engineer, a professional computer programmer and systems engineer, a licensed pilot, and a musician amongst many other things. My grasp of "concepts" is I'm sure far above your own.

Translation :

I throw paper planes at my little sister in between writing VBS scripts and playing Microsoft Flight Sim. I'm also an ACE at guitar hero. Worship meeeeeeeee.

[Splashdown]

Translation :

I throw paper planes at my little sister in between writing VBS scripts and playing Microsoft Flight Sim. I'm also an ACE at guitar hero. Worship meeeeeeeee.

Remember that picture of the hairy freaky guy with the guns and fake guitars in the pic? I think we found him. 

[NHSparky]

Translation :

I throw paper planes at my little sister in between writing VBS scripts and playing Microsoft Flight Sim. I'm also an ACE at guitar hero. Worship meeeeeeeee.

Hey, TRG!  Doesn't this sound like our boy Cooj?

[TheSarge]

Hey, TRG!  Doesn't this sound like our boy Cooj?

That's him to a T

[ColonialMarine0431]

ddeclue  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-14-09 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. OK whatever pal..
   
I'm a degreed aerospace engineer, a professional computer programmer and systems engineer, a licensed pilot, and a musician amongst many other things. My grasp of "concepts" is I'm sure far above your own.


On top of that, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

So Nyah Nyah Nyah !!!

I couldn't resist.

[NHSparky]

Horseshit.  From one engineering professional to "another" I say put up or shut up, pal.  There are only 3, maybe 5 at most, "AEROSPACE" Engineering programs that I'm aware of in the entire country, and two of those are on the Embry Riddle campuses.  All of those programs are less than 15 years old.  All three of those vocational pathways are so disparate that you would have had to spend the majority of your adult life on a college campus - assuming that you're over the age of 45 to begin with.  (Given that you are a DUmbass, though, that is the one thing that makes your bid for DUmp cred even plausible, even as it dumps your credibility on the subject at hand right out the poop chute.)

 

(ahem)...

LINKY

1962, actually.  My next door neighbor at Smith Hall my freshman year at GT was an AE, as were a number of folks I was in the NROTC unit with.

However, that being said, he IS a lying tool.

[Chris_]

Horseshit.  From one engineering professional to "another" I say put up or shut up, pal.  There are only 3, maybe 5 at most, "AEROSPACE" Engineering programs that I'm aware of in the entire country, and two of those are on the Embry Riddle campuses.  All of those programs are less than 15 years old.  All three of those vocational pathways are so disparate that you would have had to spend the majority of your adult life on a college campus - assuming that you're over the age of 45 to begin with.  (Given that you are a DUmbass, though, that is the one thing that makes your bid for DUmp cred even plausible, even as it dumps your credibility on the subject at hand right out the poop chute.)

 

(ahem)...

LINKY

1962, actually.  My next door neighbor at Smith Hall my freshman year at GT was an AE, as were a number of folks I was in the NROTC unit with.

However, that being said, he IS a lying tool.

Thanks for enlightening me. 

The first Bachelors program in Aerospace Engineering that I'd ever heard about was one that opened up in a university in France in 1993-1995 or so.  All of the engineers I've worked with at Boeing, Northrop or Lockheed were mechanical engineers if they were designing structures, electrical guys if they were designing avionics, etc.  Nobody had a sheepskin proclaiming them an graduate of anybody's Aerospace Engineering program.

Come to think of it, it wouldn't have even been called an AEROSPACE program prior to about the early to mid 80s, would it?  I mean most likely, It would have been an AERONAUTICAL Engineering program; the term AEROSPACE hadn't come into vogue until fairly recently.

[NHSparky]

Nope--sorry.  Aerospace.  1962.  GT has had their fair share of grads going to NASA.  They also have an extension campus in Huntsville, if you can believe it.

John Young (of Columbia fame) was a GT grad and NROTC alum.  I remember his pic in the unit.  GT has 15 alum either current or former astronauts.  Granted, that ain't jack compared to MIT, Perdue, or the Naval and Air Force acadamies, but it's a start.

Some other alum include Sam Nunn, (sadly) Jimmuh the Peanut, you get the idea.

[Chris_]

Nope--sorry.  Aerospace.  1962.  GT has had their fair share of grads going to NASA.  They also have an extension campus in Huntsville, if you can believe it.

Considering Huntsville has a lot of NASA activity as well, yeah, I can believe it.

I guess I can rest easy, having learned something new for today.

Thank-you sir, for correcting the blind-spot in my world view.

 

[DumbAss Tanker]

(ahem)...

LINKY

1962, actually.  My next door neighbor at Smith Hall my freshman year at GT was an AE, as were a number of folks I was in the NROTC unit with.

However, that being said, he IS a lying tool.


Thanks for enlightening me.  

The first Bachelors program in Aerospace Engineering that I'd ever heard about was one that opened up in a university in France in 1993-1995 or so.  All of the engineers I've worked with at Boeing, Northrop or Lockheed were mechanical engineers if they were designing structures, electrical guys if they were designing avionics, etc.  Nobody had a sheepskin proclaiming them an graduate of anybody's Aerospace Engineering program.

Come to think of it, it wouldn't have even been called an AEROSPACE program prior to about the early to mid 80s, would it?  I mean most likely, It would have been an AERONAUTICAL Engineering program; the term AEROSPACE hadn't come into vogue until fairly recently.

In my misspent youth I was an AE student at Purdue in the early 70s, the degrees may have said 'Aeronautical' but 'Aerospace' was used pretty interchangably in practice by those in the program, in those days there seemed like a lot of future in the air/space transition zone, with plans afoot for a US SST, the Shuttle, germinating ideas that eventually became the Aerospace Plane, a space program that was still looking outward instead of being pruned to low Earth orbit...*sigh*...what great things might have been...

Bottom line, guys that ended up working in aerospace programs tended to call themselves aerospace engineers, no matter that it wasn't the precise word on their diploma.  And really why not, through OJT and experience, they moved on to expertise beyond and different from that attested by their basic BSAE sheepskin.