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Offline franksolich

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Oscar Wilde no model of moderation
« on: September 15, 2009, 04:08:12 AM »
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Oh my.

The large-proboscised primitive, Oscar Wilde:

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Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 07:51 AM
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So exactly what is a “moderate” conservative?

Is it one who thinks that lynching black people is an undignified way to kill “them?”

Is it one who leaves his gun in his car when attending a presidential rally?

Is it one who thinks it might be a bit rude to be filmed peeing on Ted Kennedy’s grave?

Is it one who supports health care and then votes against it each and every time?

Is it one who believes that “Faux News” goes a little too far from time to time?

Is it one who thinks that firebombing Iran would be preferable to nuking it?

Is it one who thinks that accident victims should be searched for birth certificates?

Is it one who believes we should rebuild only the tourist areas of New Orleans?

Is it one who requires more concrete proof that Obama was born in Kenya?

Or is it simply one who has the capacity to think, but doesn’t?

I guess my definition of a “moderate” conservative is one who is slightly less insane than the rest of them. Please feel free to add your own definition.

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Burma Jones  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 07:53 AM
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1. One whose primary motivation is greed rather than resentment

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Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 08:28 AM
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7. What's really hard to distinguish is the results caused by those motivated by greed and those motivated by resentment.

I believe that those motivated by resentment are extremely dangerous people who will do anything to achieve their goals.

I believe that those motivated by greed will hire someone extremely dangerous who will do anything to achieve their goals.

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TheCowsCameHome  (1000+ posts)      Mon Sep-14-09 08:00 AM
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2. One who advocates harm as long as someone else actually does it.

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KharmaTrain  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 08:03 AM
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3. There Used To Be Such An Animal...Honest...

Some will refer to Jacob Javits or Jack Kemp or Chuck Percy. They were "fiscally conservative" (I don't wanna pay no stinkin' taxes) but were also socially liberal...generally in favor of social spending but they still wanted their tax breaks.

The last moderate in the Senate was Lincoln Chaffee...no longer a rushpublican.

Oh, I dunno.

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Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 08:08 AM
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4. Perhaps today's definition of a "moderate" Republican should be

George W. Bush. Let's face it. He was in a position to blow up the entire world, but all he did was to piss off just about everyone in it. I guess that could be defined as "moderation" by current standards.

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KharmaTrain  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 08:15 AM
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5. The Goalpost Keep Moving...

To some rushpublican, booooshie is a "liberal". Moderates these days hide in caves...totally overwhelmed and traumatized by the wingnuts.

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ChairmanAgnostic  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 08:23 AM
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6. john anderson, and others. Today? Snowe. Lieberman.

Conrad. Baucus. All moderate conservative republicans.

Snowe just said "no" to a public option in the health care bill; that now puts her in the the extremist fringe right-wing fold.

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Blue_Tires  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 11:23 AM
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13. i was about to mention Chafee

i met him a couple of times and was very impressed...of course he was a throwback to a time when New England repubs were more liberal than southern Dems...

and his environmental record was as high as if not higher than most democrats in the senate...

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Chan790  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 07:35 PM
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18. My mother still is one...writes in "Nelson Rockefeller" whenever she's unimpressed with the endorsed candidates. I am slowly making a Democratic voter (if not a registered Democrat) out of her.

Loved Nixon though...no idea what that is about.

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dgibby  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 08:53 AM
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8. An oxymoron.

Unlike the primitives who, when trying to define political ideology--or just about anything else--are morons without the oxygen or soap.

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stray cat  (1000+ posts)     Mon Sep-14-09 08:55 AM
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9. You must not know many people who have opinions on anything other than your own and you watch FOX news instead of meeting real people.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts)     Mon Sep-14-09 09:40 AM
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10. Someone who is most likely from the northeast or another urban area is fiscally conservative, more socially open and may not see their religion (if they have one) as superior.

The loutish Brit primitive comments, but never mind.

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datasuspect  (1000+ posts)      Mon Sep-14-09 10:51 AM
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12. a moderate conservative calls black people "coloreds" instead of "******s"

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Winterblues (1000+ posts)      Mon Sep-14-09 11:41 AM
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14. In alaska, believe it or not there is actually an official Party called Moderate Republican

There are six recognized official Parties on the Alaskan Ballet. Republican, Democratic, Independent, Green, Libertarian, and Moderate Republican. I personally have yet to see a noticeable difference between them though..

They do ballet up in Alaska?

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Johonny  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 12:12 PM
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15. Nelson Rockefeller

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Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 12:36 PM
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16. Yeah, but he's been dead for 30 years.

And I doubt if those who remember Attica would call him "moderate."

Murder is murder, even if unarmed inmates are being slaughtered during an ill conceived attack to "restore order." No one will ever know how many innocent people died (guards included) because of Rockefeller's order for an all out military type assault upon Attica inmates.

Why did this happen? Because it was the Nixon era and Rockefeller wanted to prove he was tough enough to be president. Rockefeller was determined to show he was "tough on crime" no matter how many innocent lives were lost.

**** this "moderate" Republican. He's just one more prick who didn't give a shit about anyone's life or well being but his own.

Kind of like dead ted was, eh?  Nelson and dead ted, two peas in a pod.

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Johonny  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-14-09 07:30 PM
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17. I give up

you win there is no example of a moderate Republican that will please you. I guess as long as your happy being unhappy then I'm happy.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: Oscar Wilde no model of moderation
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 04:31:20 AM »
Moderate Republician: One that hasn't popped a cap in your ass.........yet.
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Re: Oscar Wilde no model of moderation
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 06:14:43 AM »
Well, really, what Conservative gives a flying f*ck whether any of those fools regard them as "Moderate" or not?
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Re: Oscar Wilde no model of moderation
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 02:40:42 PM »
Moderate Republician: One that hasdouble the IQ of a standard liberal, i.e. above 100.
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