Here we go, the Republicans are anarchists.
onrecess
Wolf58 has it right. We are seeing actual anarchists actively attempting to destroy our country and the president has deluded himself into believing the people want bipartisonship no matter how insane the opposition. Hundreds, yes- hundreds, of republican ammendments to bills they openly admit they will never vote for! Attempting to just water down the stimulus and health care to ineffectiveness so dems won't get the credit. Hoping and praying for a great depression or terrorist attack. Stirring up the lunatic fringe to violence. Dems better start buying guns. The right is stocking up and planning on wholesale murder. The other day on "the Best Defense" a quote about .22 rifles in case of economic collapse, " Good enough to use while you hunt someone with a more appropriate weapon." And these maniacs own the press, making the dems cower for fear of being called unamerican or treasonous by traitors, torturers and war criminals like Cheney.
oh wah. A voice of reason to rain on the parade...
wagrubbs
In a left-driven revolution, the military would probably remain neutral for a few days and then join the right. There may be mass desertions along race and geographic lines, but the big guns and systems would remain under control of the right.
The country would fracture and the left would be driven to live in the NE and parts of the west coast. The rest of the country would claim to be the true USA. Given the decline of manufacturing in the NE and west coast, and the geographic equality of the internet, the new US would hold ALL of the power. Righties in the NE and West coast would move south.
They are actively talking about this plan. Witness the secession efforts in Texas.
The right has 300 million guns and billions of rounds of ammo stockpiled for such an event.
Discussion of revolution by the left is exactly what the right wants, so they can claim that they did not shoot first.
Compromising a bit and incrementally changing our system from within is much better. And saying "Bring it on" to a group that is trigger-happy is dumb.
Why isn't zombeaver a Czar? What a plan!
Zombeaver
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I have an idea. In exchange for rolling over on the Public Option, progressives should propose a stealthy, republicanÂy-sounding plan. I call it, "The End State Wellfare Act". Sounds really right-wing doesn't it? That's the trick! Since conservatives won't or can't read the bill, it just has to sound like it sticks it to those welfare queens and imugrints and they'll buy it. Here's the plan: state-by-state proportional redistribution of tax revenues. It would require the federal government to allocate funds back to the states in same proportion that the states provide them in the form of tax revenue. That way, the practice of giving konfederate states like Mississippi and Alabama, for instance, two dollars back for every dollar they contribute would come to and end. States like Connecticut, California, Massachusetts, Minnesota and New York would be flush with cash. They could dump it out of airplanes, as long as the ground wasn't on fire.
Ah, the first outright threat...
wolf58
Along time ago I put on the uniform of this nation, swore an oath to defend this nation from all enemies both foreign and domestic. The Republican Party and all their little mouth pieces are now on notice.
Oh Noes! A lousy Freeper troll!
NEW DavidFarrar
Wolf58, you put on a uniform of this nation and swore an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, not the nation. We have a growing number of people who can't trust Barack Obama because they haven't seen him responded in the same manner John McCain did when the Left challenged his presidential credentials and want to know why. Whether you think this funny or insane makes no difference to me. As long as Barack Obama refuses to settle this matter, a growing number of the American people will not fully trust Barack Obama. That is the real reason Obama's polls are dropping...people are coming to the realization they can't trust Barack Obama as their President, as their leader.
Now I know I am going to get called every name in the book, but it won't change anything. You see, people's first reaction when they first hear that Barack Obama's birth certificate is being challenged is to ask, "Well, why doesn't he simply produce it like John McCain did?"
Until you find an answer to that question, people will never trust Barack Obama as their President.
ex animo
davidfarrar
The "just as soon as I finish my bagel" threat.
escorpion
This is no longer politics as usual. THIS IS WAR. The sooner those of us on the left get used to this new reality, the better.
FessorFrink
You are definitely right, but there are two other important things. 1) Democrats are not united strong) enough to do the right thing. So even with large majorities they can't or won't pass major legislation. 2) Logic can't win a debate with crazy. These people out there are certifiable loons. Bringing rifles to Presidential Town Halls. What could make them change their mind??? They are in their own version of The Matrix. It's not the same reality as ours.
I hate to say this, but I have been thinking of it for a long time and someone finally ised the phrase the other night. To use a Nixonian quote progressive ideas are the "Silent Majority" on most issues, but in our current climate the outrageous minority of birthers/deathers/ are put on an equal level as sentient beings. For Healthcare in particular, we were never given anything to rally around. It's so much easier to be against things than to find solutions.
Bluedanube
Brilliant again but I think revolution of a reactionary nature has already occured. It's now time for the counter revolution to reestablish democracy in the faces of the corporatists and authoriatarians embodied in the Republican Party, the GOP media complex and their infantile foot soldiers. I'm once again beginning to hear the rumblings of people leaving the country that was heard prior to November because the glimmer of hope expressed by Obama in during the campaign has faded by the revelation that his overriding conviction is nothing more than "bipartisanship" which is merely political cover for preserving the status quo. It may well be that much of the counter-revolution will be planned in the cafes and meeting halls of Paris, London, Geneva, Berlin, Rome, Stockholm, Oslo etc.
Dolmance
The best response Democrats can have to Republican dishonesty is to bite their fingers off.
