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We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« on: February 27, 2008, 05:38:04 AM »
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Oh my.

The first thing I saw when I beached the boat on Skins's island this morning:

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:03 PM
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We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?

I always sort of thought that if in a time way off in the future this country slid into lawlessness it would be with a bang. You know, the stuff of Science Fiction movies with roving gangs after the war to end all wars.

I never thought it would be like this. People at the top would just start breaking laws and nobody would care about it. We'd all be robbed at pen point and get up the next morning and hope we still had a job so we could be robbed again. Imagine that the Government itself would make tax returns into pay-day-loans ... and get away with it.

This nation is on its knees economically and a great part of the reason is that we have allowed a war to continue long after we realized it had been started just for the purpose of establishing a base for war profiteering. That's what its about you know, war profiteering. Its from the oil, its from the meals for the troops, its for the non-existent rebuilding of what we destroyed, its every pallet load of hundred dollar bills that disappeared into the black hole of the green zone, it is KBR and buildings never built, MREs never delivered.

And we just stand around like cows chewing shit-stained grass. I never thought it would end like this.

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Philosoraptor  (1000+ posts)     Tue Feb-26-08 08:04 PM
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1. We certainly are pathetic, that's for sure.

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Sarah Ibarruri  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-26-08 08:07 PM
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2. We can thank Republicans for that war-for-profit.

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leftofthedial (1000+ posts)      Wed Feb-27-08 01:51 AM
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18. plenty of "democrats" have been enablers, accomplices and pathetic lapdogs for the illegal invasion and occupation or Iraq and for the phony "war" on "terror."

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Newsjock  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:08 PM
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3. I wish you were right ...

... but my fear is that it's just beginning. We ain't seen nothin' yet.

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aquart  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:32 PM
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4. That would be correct.

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spenbax  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:34 PM
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5. I still can't get over the Pentagon losing a couple of trillion dollars
 
AND NO ONE GIVES A SHIT. Just boggles my mind.

Well, it boogles this mind that we lose more than chump change on wasteful social services programs, which dwarf anything spent by the Pentagon.

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Benhurst  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:39 PM
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7. At last!

Someone else who noticed!

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spenbax  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:48 PM
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10. Well, seriously. How in the Hell do you even do that? That has to mean that the Pentagon doesn't keep ANY books at all on their accounting procedures - I can accept "I was stupid and paid $700 for a toilet seat", but to get "well, it's gone and we don't know where it went" is just unacceptable. Shouldn't Congress (or somebody) have said they were going to audit the Pentagon's books? Is that asking too much? I think you and I are the only people who are upset about this. ha

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Tierra_y_Libertad  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-26-08 08:37 PM
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6. The war will end when enough people realize they're paying for it. 

"All politics is local.", said Tip O'Neil, and he was right.

So far, Bush, with the aid of a compliant congress has gotten away with it by borrowing money. The well is running dry and they've had to resort to cutting much needed programs.

Joe citizen is starting to feel the pinch.

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Dhalgren (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-26-08 09:07 PM
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12. And the "pinch" has been timed to coincide with the new Democratic President and majority. We are Larry Fines; we know Mo is going to poke us in the eyes, but when he says, "Look at this!", we can't help but look like what we will see will be different than the last hundred times, when all we saw was fingers coming at us in the dark...

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Selatius (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:41 PM
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8. The history books show that's how democracy ends. It's how the Roman Republic ended.

You still have debates over the exact point where the Republic became an Empire, but nonetheless, the day it happens is usually not noticed by the people living at the time.

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natrat (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 08:44 PM
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9. in fairness we used to have congressmen who were not totally corrupt and a similar media

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Karenina  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 09:17 PM
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13. That was then. This is now.

I say that even though your recollection my be slightly faulty.

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Toonces27  (455 posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 09:03 PM
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11. Nobody cares.

The vast majority cares about getting their kids to soccer practice and what's happening on their favorite teevee shows. Most are totally put off by anything that mentions politics or government, and the rest get their information from the likes of Brian Williams. They are a perfectly-behaved herd of sheep.

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Skittles  (1000+ posts)      Wed Feb-27-08 06:14 AM
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22. they are STARTING to notice but it is way, WAY late

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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-26-08 09:49 PM
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14. Thom, I've noticed this too and it scares me much more than if people...

...were in the streets, breaking windows every night because of the Iraq war, etc.

The level of docility is unexpected and alarming. I'll tell you what it reminds me of- It makes me feel like I'm at a party and someone is loudly making just the nastiest, most vulgar racist jokes.

And everyone except me has their head down, pretending like it's not happening.

Of all the endings this country could have, it's going to ****ing have the Soylent Green ending. That just beats all as far as I'm concerned.

Be seein' ya in the fields!

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Ghost Dog  (1000+ posts)       Wed Feb-27-08 04:20 AM
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19. TV is the most powerful narcotic ever consumed en masse.

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Mythsaje  (1000+ posts)       Wed Feb-27-08 12:05 AM
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15. Who the **** is standing around chewing grass?

Not us.

Some of us have been screaming our heads off for years.

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lonestarnot  (1000+ posts)      Wed Feb-27-08 12:14 AM
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16. We need to do way more than scream! Yell FIRE!

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Psyop Samurai  (412 posts)       Wed Feb-27-08 12:42 AM
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17. I don't think many of us could have forseen...

They had what - 60 years to perfect scientific fascism? How to manage dissent. How to wage mind-war. All by stealth and misdirection.

And when they showed their cards - the whole friggin' deck - it was the biggest mind-**** of all, because if you saw it, you were "crazy". Suddenly the people's minds were gone, as was the integrity of every one of our institutions (assuming there ever was any beyond smoke and mirrors).

It's interesting (as in "interesting" times) to become a dissident in your own country, simply by being what you've always been. And you start to think horrifying thoughts like, "my God, are they going to come for me?"

Then one day you waken to an even more horrifying thought: they are not coming for you. They don't need to.

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NoMoreMyths (1000+ posts)       Wed Feb-27-08 04:51 AM
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20. There is a price to pay for an ever increasing control by corporations and governments over life

This would be one of them.

What do we end up doing to solve these problems? We keep giving more control to corporations and governments. Why should it be surprising? Corporations are now global, and governments are more distant than ever. What are people supposed to do? We exist to serve the corporate state. Like you said, what are we going to do, stop going to work? That would mean we would have no money(which keeps us tied to the corporate state) to buy the food that the corporate states owns. There would be no taxes to build the infrastructure needed to get to work and mold the next generation of cogs(you know, our precious children).

I can't imagine us going out any other way. At every step, at every election, at every purchase, we end up giving more control to either corporations, governments, and sometimes both at the same time. Why? It's easier. We get to chase our dreams that way. We get to live limitless lives. If we just give more and more over to the two dominant institutions of our day, we don't have to worry about a ******* thing.

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TheGoldenRule  (1000+ posts)       Wed Feb-27-08 06:05 AM
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21. What do you expect when people here on DU think there's nothing wrong with H or O?!

Hillary voted for the war and has NEVER apologized for that vote.

Obama voted to fund the war and has recently been saber rattling toward so called terrorists in Pakistan. (oooh-terra terra terra-sound familiar?)

Make NO mistake: BOTH will serve their corporate masters who profit handsomely from war-ANY WAR.

We are looking at ENDLESS WARS, folks.

But who gives a damn because it's more important to have a "historic" presidential race between a woman and an African American.

Can you say "Good Germans"?

Oh my.
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We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2008, 02:41:33 PM »
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We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
   
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I always sort of thought that if in a time way off in the future this country slid into lawlessness it would be with a bang. You know, the stuff of Science Fiction movies with roving gangs after the war to end all wars.

I never thought it would be like this. People at the top would just start breaking laws and nobody would care about it. We'd all be robbed at pen point and get up the next morning and hope we still had a job so we could be robbed again. Imagine that the Government itself would make tax returns into pay-day-loans ... and get away with it.

This nation is on its knees economically and a great part of the reason is that we have allowed a war to continue long after we realized it had been started just for the purpose of establishing a base for war profiteering. That's what its about you know, war profiteering. Its from the oil, its from the meals for the troops, its for the non-existent rebuilding of what we destroyed, its every pallet load of hundred dollar bills that disappeared into the black hole of the green zone, it is KBR and buildings never built, MREs never delivered.

And we just stand around like cows chewing shit-stained grass. I never thought it would end like this.

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Take a  :chill:

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1. We certainly are pathetic, that's for sure.
   
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Yep, DUmmies are pathetic. Thank's for acknowledging that fact.

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2. We can thank Republicans for that war-for-profit. nt
   
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Protecting your ungrateful ass, whether you like it or not.

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leftofthedial  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Feb-27-08 01:51 AM
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18. plenty of "democrats"
   
have been enablers, accomplices and pathetic lapdogs for the illegal invasion and occupation or Iraq and for the phony "war" on "terror."
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They are all under the control of the VRWC  :evillaugh:

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5. I still can't get over the Pentagon losing a couple of trillion dollars
   
AND NO ONE GIVES A SHIT. Just boggles my mind.
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:tinfoil2:

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spenbax  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Feb-26-08 08:48 PM
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10. Well, seriously. How in the Hell do you even do that? That has
   
to mean that the Pentagon doesn't keep ANY books at all on their accounting procedures - I can accept "I was stupid and paid $700 for a toilet seat", but to get "well, it's gone and we don't know where it went" is just unacceptable. Shouldn't Congress (or somebody) have said they were going to audit the Pentagon's books? Is that asking too much? I think you and I are the only people who are upset about this. ha :hi:
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29. I still can't get over the fact that...
   
somebody attempted to murder at least two U.S. Senators with anthrax and everybody was so busy shitting bricks over 9/11 it just went by the wayside.
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6. The war will end when enough people realize they're paying for it.
   
"All politics is local.", said Tip O'Neil, and he was right.

So far, Bush, with the aid of a compliant congress has gotten away with it by borrowing money. The well is running dry and they've had to resort to cutting much needed programs.

Joe citizen is starting to feel the pinch.
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8. The history books show that's how democracy ends. It's how the Roman Republic ended.
   
You still have debates over the exact point where the Republic became an Empire, but nonetheless, the day it happens is usually not noticed by the people living at the time.
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:ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes:

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Toonces27  Donating Member  (455 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Feb-26-08 09:03 PM
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11. Nobody cares.
   
The vast majority cares about getting their kids to soccer practice and what's happening on their favorite teevee shows. Most are totally put off by anything that mentions politics or government, and the rest get their information from the likes of Brian Williams. They are a perfectly-behaved herd of sheep.
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DUmmies are sheep soaking in all the marxist talkingpoints

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14. Thom, I've noticed this too and it scares me much more than if people...
   
...were in the streets, breaking windows every night because of the Iraq war, etc.

  The level of docility is unexpected and alarming. I'll tell you what it reminds me of- It makes me feel like I'm at a party and someone is loudly making just the nastiest, most vulgar racist jokes.

  And everyone except me has their head down, pretending like it's not happening.

  Of all the endings this country could have, it's going to ****ing have the Soylent Green ending. That just beats all as far as I'm concerned.

  Be seein' ya in the fields!

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:tinfoil2:

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alyce douglas  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Feb-27-08 09:39 AM
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35. yea, we're screaming but who is listening.
   
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 09:42 AM by alyce douglas
maybe there is truth in that actions speak louder than words
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Posting on DU and saying "Bush sucks!" is not warning people of impending doom  :whatever:

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17. I don't think many of us could have forseen...
   
They had what - 60 years to perfect scientific fascism? How to manage dissent. How to wage mind-war. All by stealth and misdirection.

And when they showed their cards - the whole friggin' deck - it was the biggest mind-**** of all, because if you saw it, you were "crazy". Suddenly the people's minds were gone, as was the integrity of every one of our institutions (assuming there ever was any beyond smoke and mirrors).

It's interesting (as in "interesting" times) to become a dissident in your own country, simply by being what you've always been. And you start to think horrifying thoughts like, "my God, are they going to come for me?"

Then one day you waken to an even more horrifying thought: they are not coming for you. They don't need to.
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:tinfoil2: :tinfoil2:

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20. There is a price to pay for an ever increasing control by corporations and governments over life
   
This would be one of them.

What do we end up doing to solve these problems? We keep giving more control to corporations and governments. Why should it be surprising? Corporations are now global, and governments are more distant than ever. What are people supposed to do? We exist to serve the corporate state. Like you said, what are we going to do, stop going to work? That would mean we would have no money(which keeps us tied to the corporate state) to buy the food that the corporate states owns. There would be no taxes to build the infrastructure needed to get to work and mold the next generation of cogs(you know, our precious children).

I can't imagine us going out any other way. At every step, at every election, at every purchase, we end up giving more control to either corporations, governments, and sometimes both at the same time. Why? It's easier. We get to chase our dreams that way. We get to live limitless lives. If we just give more and more over to the two dominant institutions of our day, we don't have to worry about a ******* thing.
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21. What do you expect when people here on DU think there's nothing wrong with H or O?!
   
Hillary voted for the war and has NEVER apologized for that vote.

Obama voted to fund the war and has recently been saber rattling toward so called terrorists in Pakistan. (oooh-terra terra terra-sound familiar?)

Make NO mistake: BOTH will serve their corporate masters who profit handsomely from war-ANY WAR.

We are looking at ENDLESS WARS, folks.

But who gives a damn because it's more important to have a "historic" presidential race between a woman and an African American. :eyes:

Can you say "Good Germans"?

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:tinfoil2: :tinfoil2:

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25. You are a tool....   Updated at 11:31 AM
   
If you think Obama or Hillary are comparable to any Republican. We would never have gone to war if either of them were president. We would have a healthy thriving economy if Obama or Hillary were in charge. And the world would be a gentler kinder place if Democrats were in control of the Whitehouse. People who think like you are stupid. (not you...just people who think like you :rant: )
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60%+ tax rates, national healthcare, rampant nanny-statism, terrorists being emboldened by our surrender. Yeah, that's peaceful and prosperous alright  :whatever:

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TheGoldenRule  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Feb-27-08 02:29 PM
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51. NO-the "TOOL" is YOU. Why didn't you & everyone on DU support Edwards, hmm?
   
Edwards while not perfect, told all of us that he would fight the corporate bastards and get us out of Iraq!

Why wasn't DU totally, unequivocally behind him?! Hell, even the owners of DU didn't back Edwards!

You are delusional if you think H or O will stop the war. No, you are getting what you are asking for: MORE WAR delivered to you by the corporations that run this country like puppeteers behind the scenes. There's nothing kind or gentle about their intentions!

So who's the stupid one here? Stupid is as Stupid does as the saying goes and I'd say YOU are the chump who is willing to sell YOUR common sense, soul and integrity and give those greedy bastards a free pass to continue to kill over in the middle east in YOUR name and paid for with YOUR tax dollars for absolutely no reason except GREED!!!

NEWS FLASH FOR YA:
A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN IRAQ FOR A LIE. FYI-THE BIG BAD TERRA-ISTS WERE NOT FROM IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!


Now go back to your Faux News like a Good German.



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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 03:35:22 PM »
Merged, but I goofed.

The second one's supposed to be the top one.  I know mine was posted first, but out of deference to the kind gentleman, I intended to put mine in second place, behind his later one.

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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
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19. TV is the most powerful narcotic ever consumed en masse.
whew! That let's religion off the hook.

Why don't you idiots join the Ronulans in their upcoming secession?
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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 05:12:34 PM »
Oh my is right. It's sad and funny to watch the spittle from this side of the glass though. Someone really needs to break out the squeege and spray a little more Thorazine on the morning oatmeal.
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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2008, 07:06:42 PM »
Wow!  Twice in one day and the Reality Based Community is actually in touch with reality!

Well, like I said in another thread, things are better than they've ever been.
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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2008, 09:24:51 PM »
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Toonces27  (455 posts)      Tue Feb-26-08 09:03 PM
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11. Nobody cares.

The vast majority cares about getting their kids to soccer practice and what's happening on their favorite teevee shows. Most are totally put off by anything that mentions politics or government, and the rest get their information from the likes of Brian Williams. They are a perfectly-behaved herd of sheep.

This attitude, this complete arrogance from some thankless idiot on a message board angers me. Those people, those "sheep" are the consumers and the taxpayers, the engine that runs this country. They pay for the meds of half the posters on DU. They support the moonbats living on social security disability, unemployment and welfare so those losers can spend their days passing judgment on those very same people. As if somehow the ability to spend your days proclaiming yourself to be wiser, more enlightened, more informed makes it so.

Those people who just want to come home in the evening and watch a little "teevee" instead of listening to some pundit drone on and on about how terrible their country is, how bad the economy is, how bad the war is going, and the latest non-scandal of the executive branch not only buy the ipods, the video games, shin guards, and Toyotas, but manufacture them as well. They pay the salary, the retirement benefits, even the union dues of public school teachers who indoctrinate their children with values they don't share while those teachers have the freedom during THEIR day to sit at a computer and whine about the stupidity of the human race. I'd love to have the free time the average school teacher has. Livestock has to be cared for whether it's Presidents' Day, Christmas (excuse me, winter holiday), or even Sunday.

Day after day they take their taxpayer provided meds, check on their appointment with taxpayer paid for psychiatrist, or physician, or social worker, check to see if their government check made it to the bank, then complain about all the things THEY don't have. They never consider they're enjoying that free health care they constantly scream about. Granted, it's not good enough but the thing is, it never will be. They don't really want "health" care...they don't want to get better, they want enablers. They want someone to give them meds, pat them on the back and tell them how rotten their life is because of the government, their doctor, the gullibility of those taxpayers who pay the bills...all the while believing a degree in Art History should be qualification enough to make them CEO of Coca Cola and it's simply the poor hand that they've been dealt that keeps them from assuming their rightful place of power. And of course things would be different if THEY were in charge.

They complain all day about the rights they've lost (the irony of exercising their most important right...freedom of speech to proclaim democracy dead evidently escapes those geniuses). They hold in high esteem some ancient tribe that treated their women like chattel while holding in contempt the 21st century men working hard to provide a good life for their families, who take their wives out every week, buy them anniversary gifts, and don't complain (at least not very much) when she bought that pair of shoes she just "couldn't live without". Somehow, those kind, gentle providers are evil and chauvinistic, but some Indian with three wives who beats them all regularly is some kind of noble savage. Yet, not one of them could survive the harsh conditions those savages lived in every single day. They complain about the price of a loaf of bread...how would they ever get through a winter when the meat supplies were dwindling and there was no game to be found? Trampling around hiking trails on the weekend with that new pack you just got from REI is a far cry from living in those conditions everyday.

Just once I'd like to see them count their blessings.

Cindie
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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2008, 10:46:03 PM »
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11. Nobody cares.

The vast majority cares about getting their kids to soccer practice and what's happening on their favorite teevee shows. Most are totally put off by anything that mentions politics or government, and the rest get their information from the likes of Brian Williams. They are a perfectly-behaved herd of sheep.

This attitude, this complete arrogance from some thankless idiot on a message board angers me. Those people, those "sheep" are the consumers and the taxpayers, the engine that runs this country. They pay for the meds of half the posters on DU. They support the moonbats living on social security disability, unemployment and welfare so those losers can spend their days passing judgment on those very same people. As if somehow the ability to spend your days proclaiming yourself to be wiser, more enlightened, more informed makes it so.

Those people who just want to come home in the evening and watch a little "teevee" instead of listening to some pundit drone on and on about how terrible their country is, how bad the economy is, how bad the war is going, and the latest non-scandal of the executive branch not only buy the ipods, the video games, shin guards, and Toyotas, but manufacture them as well. They pay the salary, the retirement benefits, even the union dues of public school teachers who indoctrinate their children with values they don't share while those teachers have the freedom during THEIR day to sit at a computer and whine about the stupidity of the human race. I'd love to have the free time the average school teacher has. Livestock has to be cared for whether it's Presidents' Day, Christmas (excuse me, winter holiday), or even Sunday.

Day after day they take their taxpayer provided meds, check on their appointment with taxpayer paid for psychiatrist, or physician, or social worker, check to see if their government check made it to the bank, then complain about all the things THEY don't have. They never consider they're enjoying that free health care they constantly scream about. Granted, it's not good enough but the thing is, it never will be. They don't really want "health" care...they don't want to get better, they want enablers. They want someone to give them meds, pat them on the back and tell them how rotten their life is because of the government, their doctor, the gullibility of those taxpayers who pay the bills...all the while believing a degree in Art History should be qualification enough to make them CEO of Coca Cola and it's simply the poor hand that they've been dealt that keeps them from assuming their rightful place of power. And of course things would be different if THEY were in charge.

They complain all day about the rights they've lost (the irony of exercising their most important right...freedom of speech to proclaim democracy dead evidently escapes those geniuses). They hold in high esteem some ancient tribe that treated their women like chattel while holding in contempt the 21st century men working hard to provide a good life for their families, who take their wives out every week, buy them anniversary gifts, and don't complain (at least not very much) when she bought that pair of shoes she just "couldn't live without". Somehow, those kind, gentle providers are evil and chauvinistic, but some Indian with three wives who beats them all regularly is some kind of noble savage. Yet, not one of them could survive the harsh conditions those savages lived in every single day. They complain about the price of a loaf of bread...how would they ever get through a winter when the meat supplies were dwindling and there was no game to be found? Trampling around hiking trails on the weekend with that new pack you just got from REI is a far cry from living in those conditions everyday.

Just once I'd like to see them count their blessings.

Cindie

God bless you , dear heart!

You summed it up so well -- I'll be posting your missive here as often as possible.  You said it better than many.
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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2008, 11:11:32 PM »
so.. when did the Pentagon say they 'lost a trillion dollars!!!' and they have no idea where it went?  :popcorn:

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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2008, 07:40:07 AM »
The intellectual and moral arrogance of that grouping of society's dropouts, losers, ne'er-do-wells, and degenerate pervs at DU really never ceases to amaze, for its sheer and absolute lack of factual basis if nothing else.

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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2008, 09:47:03 AM »
Cindie rocks. Again. :-)
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Re: We Sure Are Going Out With A Whimper, Aren't We?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2008, 10:03:37 AM »
Game, set, and match to the Marine Mom!

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