poll: is Patrick Kennedy gay?

[Mike220]

Damn, I was hoping to ask her where she did her dissertation. Was looking forward to reading it... 


 

[AllosaursRus]

Got to tell ya Sparky I have known of a couple of other ladies on the web from that state and they were bat shit crazy too so wondering if it is a state thing.

I was born in Kansas. We always told everybody "it's the water" in Arkansas!

Just sayin........

[Odin's Hand]

He's the new face of the $3 bill.

[JohnnyReb]

DUmmie said, ".I AM ALSO A MEDIUM, WHICH IS A TRANSLATOR FOR THE DEAD."......Damn, I wanted to ask if she also voted for them?

[AllosaursRus]

I'd hit it like John Jr. hit the the water.

I was thinkin' more like.........."Who Let the Dogs Out?"

Talk about a "pasty face"!

heh!

[vesta111]

I'd hit it like John Jr. hit the the water.

  That really hurts Thundley.

We who remember that little boy and the photos of him hiding under his Dads desk in the oval office, the never to be forgotten picture of him at 3 years old saluting his dads coffin, then to have to attend his birthday party the next day.

This Jon-Jon became the nations little boy.   We adored this child, followed his life as his mother remarried that nutty Greek with a very strange family and some kind of obsession for an Opera Singer.
We watched as  he decided to go into therater and again as he became  the publisher of a magazine.

We kept an eagle eye on who he dated lots of discussion on who would he choose.

His choice was his, few people thought he made a wise choice but---He was our now adult little Jon-Jon the child we could not get out of our mind.

When his plane went down just hours before his cousin  Roye was to be married---Remember his uncle Robert was killed before her birth leaving her number 11 of his children---

24/7 the news Chanel's focused on the recovery ships-- Horrid as there was just pictures of the ships and the sea.

Loosing Jon-Jon was to us like loosing a family member we had held in high hope that this child may become better then us.

 I take exception to your comments on Jon-Jon.


  

[JohnnyReb]

I'd hit it like John Jr. hit the the water.

Yep....SPLASH !!!.....and she wouldn't feel a thing....

[Chris_]

Yep....SPLASH !!!.....and she wouldn't feel a thing....

Where the hell is franksolich?  This is all his fault.

[Doc]

That really hurts Thundley.

We who remember that little boy and the photos of him hiding under his Dads desk in the oval office, the never to be forgotten picture of him at 3 years old saluting his dads coffin, then to have to attend his birthday party the next day.

This Jon-Jon became the nations little boy.   We adored this child, followed his life as his mother remarried that nutty Greek with a very strange family and some kind of obsession for an Opera Singer.
We watched as  he decided to go into therater and again as he became the publisher of a magazine.

We kept an eagle eye on who he dated lots of discussion on who would he choose.

His choice was his, few people thought he made a wise choice but---He was our now adult little Jon-Jon the child we could not get out of our mind.

When his plane went down just hours before his cousin  Roye was to be married---Remember his uncle Robert was killed before her birth leaving her number 11 of his children---

24/7 the news Chanel's focused on the recovery ships-- Horrid as there was just pictures of the ships and the sea.

Loosing Jon-Jon was to us like loosing a family member we had held in high hope that this child may become better then us.

 I take exception to your comments on Jon-Jon.  

Vesta.....I know I'm wasting my breath here, but let's get real for a moment......

This is a Conservative discussion board, opinions regarding the Kennedy clan will vary from mild distaste to outright disgust........we are not into the whole Camelot hero-worship stuff.

The Kennedy's over the years have (in many cases) earned whatever they have received, particularly "Jon-Jon".
  
As an active pilot at the time, and living in the area that his accident happened, I can state for a fact that he made at least six rookie mistakes on that flight, that earned him the trip to "Davy Jones' Locker".......he was an egotistical overconfident dumbass......and when you put those characteristics in an aircraft, it is not a question of "if" but "when" he is going to auger in.  The real tragedy is that he took innocent lives with him.

As a group, it is my opinion that the Kennedy's have done more cumulative harm to the Republic than FDR......I therefore can't summon up the emotion to weep for any of them.  They largely made their own beds, and now must "sleep in them".

doc

[thundley4]

Meh, I could have easily said I'd hit it like Sonny Bono hitting a tree.  The dark humor is thing.

[diesel driver]

T. V. DOCTOR, LOOKS LIKE THE QUEEN IS SMARTER THAN YOU ARE. YOU ARE SO JEALOUS THAT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT SMART INTELLIGIENT THINGS. LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

This passes for intelligence?  In WHAT universe?
If ignorance is bliss, this *whatever* is approaching sainthood.

[formerlurker]

I DO BELIEVE THAT I AM NOT THE ONE THAT NEEDS THORAZINE SINCE I AM THE PERSON THAT DIAGNOSES PEOPLE. I HAVE NO BRAIN DYSFUNCTION. PATRICK KENNEDY IS NOT GAY, DON'T BE TALKING ABOUT ME AND HIM. I AM NO STALKER, I DON'T FOLLOW HIM AROUND. HE IS MY FIANCE. I HAVE STUDIED PSYCHOLOGY FOR 18 YEARS. THERE SURE ARE ALOT OF JEALOUS PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. PATRICK KENNEDY HAS NEVER LIVED THAT LIFESTYLE AND NO LONGER DOES DRUGS AND ALCOHOL. PEOPLE CAN CHANGE WHEN THEY WANT TO AND WHEN THEY HAVE SOMEONE WHO LOVES AND CARES FOR THEM. PATRICK HAS GONE THROUGH ALOT IN HIS LIFE. HE LOST HIS FATHER WHICH WAS HIS MOST CHERISHED MENTOR AND CONFIDANTE. PATRICK HAS A LOT OF STRESS IN HIS LIFE AND I CALL TO COUNSEL HIM. DON'T DTALK ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT. WHEN YOU DON'T NO SOMETHING ABOUT SOMEONE, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT OR YOU WILL GET SUED, KILLED OR THROWN IN JAIL. THE KENNEDY FAMILY ARE VERY DANGEROUS WITH A GUN AND KNOW HOW TO USE ONE AND YOU SHOULD BE FOR WARNED BY ME THAT WHEN YOU MESS WITH PATRICK KENNEDY YOU ALSO MESS WITH HIS BROTHER AND SISTER. AND YOU MAKE ME VERY UPSET BECAUSE I LOVE PATRICK WITH ALL MY HEART. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE AND LET HIM BE HAPPY. DON'T CALL HIM GAY!!

Hold on a second, you counsel him and are his fiance? 

Isn't there a law against that or something?


I could of sworn he was sleeping around with Endora at http://acapella.harmony-central.com/index.php..........................

[diesel driver]

Vesta.....I know I'm wasting my breath here, but let's get real for a moment......

This is a Conservative discussion board, opinions regarding the Kennedy clan will vary from mild distaste to outright disgust........we are not into the whole Camelot hero-worship stuff.

The Kennedy's over the years have (in many cases) earned whatever they have received, particularly "Jon-Jon".
  
As an active pilot at the time, and living in the area that his accident happened, I can state for a fact that he made at least six rookie mistakes on that flight, that earned him the trip to "Davy Jones' Locker".......he was an egotistical overconfident dumbass......and when you put those characteristics in an aircraft, it is not a question of "if" but "when" he is going to auger in.  The real tragedy is that he took innocent lives with him.

As a group, it is my opinion that the Kennedy's have done more cumulative harm to the Republic than FDR......I therefore can't summon up the emotion to weep for any of them.  They largely made their own beds, and now must "sleep in them".

doc

Here, here.   

JFK JR was no different from any other Kennedy.  Arrogant, egotistical, spoiled, sheltered, and STUPID!

All of them thought they were not only kings, but gods, above any and all men and laws, because, DAMMIT, THEY WERE KENNEDYS.  Lesser people were expected to .

I have NO respect for any of them.  I had less for Fat Teddy, who let a woman SUFFICATE in his car, while he was on the bank wondering how he was going to save HIS PONDEROUS, POLITICAL ASS.  There are no fires in Hell hot enough for that bastard, as far as I'm concerned.  God may forgive him, I don't have to.   

Their own actions led to their own demises; some were as glorious as they were brief.

[NHSparky]

 I take exception to your comments on Jon-Jon.

Okay, I'll take this one on.

Why should you take exception?  Ever flown a plane?  Ever done anything with significant risk of life and limb? 

JFK Jr. was NOT rated for the conditions in which he flew.  He knew it, and yet still placed himself and his passengers at risk.  So when he flew into the ocean following lights when he SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO EVER TAKE OFF IN THE FIRST ****ING PLACE, he basically committed suicide by stupidity and arrogance.

Even I know when enough is enough, and when to back off, toots.

[Ballygrl]

Just wanted to say, as a Catholic? I'm against Priest and Nuns marrying.

[Doc]

Okay, I'll take this one on.

Why should you take exception?  Ever flown a plane?  Ever done anything with significant risk of life and limb? 

JFK Jr. was NOT rated for the conditions in which he flew.  He knew it, and yet still placed himself and his passengers at risk.  So when he flew into the ocean following lights when he SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO EVER TAKE OFF IN THE FIRST ****ING PLACE, he basically committed suicide by stupidity and arrogance.

Even I know when enough is enough, and when to back off, toots.

Let's not forget the biggie.......he was flying with a ****ing cast on his foot......invalidating his medical certificate, as well as his pilot's license (as well as voiding his insurance, not that it matters to a Kennedy).

It was basically an illegal flight from the point the engine started.......

doc

[mamacags]

Insane person claimed to counsel gay boy over the ANSWERING MACHINE.  That right there should be the first indicator that something ain't right in there.  Subway kitty has been pretty quiet lately, is she a queen now?

[Chris_]

Me too. 

Holy shit, it's got teeth.

[debk]

Just wanted to say, as a Catholic? I'm against Priest and Nuns marrying.

The other half went to Catholic elementary through 8th grade, then to a Jesuit prep for high school. All of his teachers were either nuns or priests. At that time, and the schools he went to, there were no lay teachers.

When he was in college-freshman or sophmore year, he went to Daytona for Spring Break.

Ran into his 3rd grade teacher, in a bikini, on the beach. She had left the convent, and married a former priest. He said it was most disconcerting. He's 63 now, and still remembers her on the beach.....he said "who knew that was hiding under her habit?"  

[Chris_]

Wow, that's a little weird.

[Ballygrl]

The other half went to Catholic elementary through 8th grade, then to a Jesuit prep for high school. All of his teachers were either nuns or priests. At that time, and the schools he went to, there were no lay teachers.

When he was in college-freshman or sophmore year, he went to Daytona for Spring Break.

Ran into his 3rd grade teacher, in a bikini, on the beach. She had left the convent, and married a former priest. He said it was most disconcerting. He's 63 now, and still remembers her on the beach.....he said "who knew that was hiding under her habit?"

WOW! I went to Catholic School for 12 years and it would be totally weird to run into a former Priest or Nun without the collar or habit.

[Chris_]

My fourth grade math teacher was a flaming gayboy.  He's principal of the school now, but I can remember him dragging me into his office and yelling at me about my homework.  I either wouldn't do it, or I would do such a bad job it was pointless to try to grade it.  I ran into him 20 years later at the McDonalds my friend worked at during a charity event.

Never liked that guy.  He was an awful teacher.

[miskie]

After reading The Queen's Myspace page, I did find one thing on it which I believe to be 100% fact.

"THE QUEEN OF SWITZERLAND has 0 friends."

[Chris]

You noticed that, too.  I thought it would be impolite to point it out.

You should see the emails we're getting.  I sent most of this stuff to Kennedy's office.  I'll be curious to see their response... I may call them in the morning.

[miskie]

Oh, and Queen -- Assuming you are still reading --

Pull out your DSM IV (or V) from your college psych courses and reread this...

Erotomania revisited: clinical course and treatment.

Kennedy N, McDonough M, Kelly B, Berrios GE.

Department of Psychiatry, University of Cambridge, Addenbrooke's Hospital, Hills Rd., Cambridge, UK, CB2 2QQ.
Abstract

Erotomania is a rare disorder in which an individual has a delusional belief that a person of higher social status falls in love and makes amorous advances towards him/her. Little is known about the background, classification, treatment, or outcome of individuals with this disorder. The purpose of this study was to evaluate current criteria for diagnosing and classifying primary and secondary erotomania in addition to examining course, outcome, and impact on victims of erotomania. Semistructured interviews covering personal and family details in addition to treatment and outcome to date were performed on a series of erotomanic patients identified in a defined area. Evaluation of diagnosis used DSM-IV and other criteria. Fifteen erotomanic subjects (11 female, four male) were identified. Most were isolated, without a partner or full-time occupation. Forty percent had a first-degree relative with a psychiatric history and of those half had a first-degree relative with a mono-delusional disorder. Less than half of the objects of their affection, mainly noncelebrities, were subject to harassment. Subjects with primary erotomania and erotomania secondary to other psychiatric diagnoses were identified using DSM-IV criteria. Ellis and Mellsop's criteria were found to be useful in assessing erotomania but we could not replicate Seeman's fixed and recurrent groups. Treatment and outcome was better than expected particularly for those with primary erotomania and erotomanics with a diagnosis of bipolar affective disorder. In this series, erotomanic symptoms largely occurred in the context of other psychiatric disorders, although subjects with pure erotomanic symptoms were seen. Subjects were less dangerous and engaged in less harassment of victims than the literature suggests. Subjects were often isolated, unemployed, and with few social contacts. Strong family psychiatric histories were seen particularly with regard to mono-delusional disorders raising the possibility of genetic inheritance. An adaptation of Ellis and Mellsop's criteria was suggested for the diagnosis of primary and secondary erotomania. Response to treatment and prognosis was good, particularly for primary erotomania and erotomania secondary to bipolar affective disorder.