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Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« on: August 28, 2009, 11:56:39 AM »
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Still, ignorance doesn't preclude a right to wonder. So it doesn't automatically make someone (aka, me) a Limbaugh-loving, aerial-wolf-hunting NRA troll for asking what Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted's death, and what she'd have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded.

Who knows -- maybe she'd feel it was worth it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-lafsky/the-footnote-speaks-what_b_270298.html

I heard Rush (on hate radio) talking about this, I had to see for myself.
This is totally disgusting and horrible.



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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2009, 01:45:03 PM »
People there seem to agree for the most part, by reading the comments.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 03:39:51 PM »
Imagine someone on the right writing something like that, but with the opposite conclusion.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 04:35:38 PM »
By most accounts she didn't drown. She suffocated in the air pocket near the back window as a portion of the car was sticking out of the water.  Had Dead Ted stopped and gotten help instead of heading home to the protection of his family it it very possible this young lady would have lived.

Nice going Ted - Great role model DUmmies.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 06:43:56 PM »
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Nice going Ted - Great role model DUmmies.

If Charles Manson were released and ran as a DimRat for any office, with no other Dim opposition, the DUmmies would vote for the "D" after his name and justify it somehow.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2009, 01:08:51 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 28, 2009, 06:43:56 PM
If Charles Manson were released and ran as a DimRat for any office, with no other Dim opposition, the DUmmies would vote for the "D" after his name and justify it somehow.

Nah they would say he's really a repug.  :lmao:
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2009, 01:12:08 PM »
That...IMHO is no different that someone saying to a rape victim "you brought it on yourself".
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 02:00:21 PM »
Quote from: RightCoast on August 28, 2009, 04:35:38 PM
By most accounts she didn't drown. She suffocated in the air pocket near the back window as a portion of the car was sticking out of the water.  Had Dead Ted stopped and gotten help instead of heading home to the protection of his family it it very possible this young lady would have lived.

Nice going Ted - Great role model DUmmies.

And he staggered past THREE locations with phones to get to his hotel.....one of which was a fire station......

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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2009, 07:05:38 PM »
I realize this is the HuffPo, but what does that poster think Mary Jo sacrificed herself for? He would've been POTUS if it weren't for Ted leaving her to drown in that car because he didn't want another DUI.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2009, 07:15:54 PM »
If Fat Teddy had been a man, being drunk would not have mattered one bit. A man would have tried to still save Mary Jo, which makes Fat Teddy a coward.  Something that just hit me.  Some people claim that he was too drunk to save her, I don't.  I think he was "legally drunk" , even at the higher level at the time, but he far from being so drunk that he was out of it.
   He was not that wasted, he was still sober enough to put his political career ahead of another human life. He knew full well what he was doing when he bypassed 3 separate places that could have assisted him. Not his first thought was to contact his lawyer, and figure a way to salvage his political career.   :censored: HIM, the wrong one died that day off of Chappaquiddick bridge.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2009, 10:03:08 PM »
Quote from: Tess Anderson on August 29, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
I realize this is the HuffPo, but what does that poster think Mary Jo sacrificed herself for? He would've been POTUS if it weren't for Ted leaving her to drown in that car because he didn't want another DUI.

Because DUmmies think that people like Mary Jo are supposed to sacrifice themselves for the cause.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2009, 05:44:16 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 29, 2009, 07:15:54 PM
If Fat Teddy had been a man, being drunk would not have mattered one bit. A man would have tried to still save Mary Jo, which makes Fat Teddy a coward.  Something that just hit me.  Some people claim that he was too drunk to save her, I don't.  I think he was "legally drunk" , even at the higher level at the time, but he far from being so drunk that he was out of it.
   He was not that wasted, he was still sober enough to put his political career ahead of another human life. He knew full well what he was doing when he bypassed 3 separate places that could have assisted him. Not his first thought was to contact his lawyer, and figure a way to salvage his political career.   :censored: HIM, the wrong one died that day off of Chappaquiddick bridge.


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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2009, 08:26:09 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 29, 2009, 07:15:54 PM
If Fat Teddy had been a man, being drunk would not have mattered one bit. A man would have tried to still save Mary Jo, which makes Fat Teddy a coward.  Something that just hit me.  Some people claim that he was too drunk to save her, I don't.  I think he was "legally drunk" , even at the higher level at the time, but he far from being so drunk that he was out of it.
   He was not that wasted, he was still sober enough to put his political career ahead of another human life. He knew full well what he was doing when he bypassed 3 separate places that could have assisted him. Not his first thought was to contact his lawyer, and figure a way to salvage his political career.   :censored: HIM, the wrong one died that day off of Chappaquiddick bridge.

If Dead Ted had been a man of character, he would not have been taking a woman not his wife anywhere with the intention of having sex with her, or failing that (we all are fallible), would have died trying to retrieve her from the car.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2009, 10:12:30 AM »
Hi,

Got the following from one of the services I subscribe to.  Sure makes the point well.

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Ted Kennedy, R.I.H.
It is said that one should not speak poorly of the dead. But it is also said that one should not discuss politics or religion in polite company, and we regularly violate that dictum. Thus, committing another faux pas gives us no real pause.

I am, of course, warming up to say a few unkind words about the just deceased Sen. Kennedy.

In reviewing his life, his fans will hold him up as a flawed but still shining beacon for the common man. Quoting one mostly favorable article the other day.

"Kennedy entered Harvard College in 1950, but was suspended the following year for allowing another student to take a Spanish test for him."

And people claim there is such a thing as media bias! Pshaw!

I'm sure that the student Kennedy so kindly "allowed" to take his Spanish test - no doubt because the poor fellow needed to hone his test-taking skills - virtually begged Ted to let him stand in.

But his cheating ways, which extended to drunkenly chasing the girlfriends of younger clan members around family compounds, are not the source of my gripe about the all-too-human Kennedy.

My issue emanates from a stop some years ago by the side of the road in Martha's Vineyard. On the island for a vacation, I took the short detour to see the site of Kennedy's infamous accident at the bridge to Chappaquiddick. Getting out of the car, I vividly remember my first impression.

"This is it? That's where Kennedy's car went in?"

The thing is that the canal is narrow and shallow. I'll give Kennedy the benefit of the doubt that he was disoriented - massive quantities of alcohol will do that to a guy - but I won't give him anything toward his contention that he couldn't have taken more active measures to save Mary Jo Kopechne's life.

Any reasonably strong swimmer - which I assume he was, having grown up on the water - could have made the shallow dive necessary to get her out. But even if he was too drunk or scared to pull that off, he could have quickly found the help needed to get her out before the air bubble in the car was exhausted and she drowned. Instead, walking by a fire station and a private house, stopping at neither to request help, he trod a circuitous path to his hotel, where, after changing into dry clothes and lamely trying to establish an alibi by visiting the front desk to complain of a loud party, he turned in.

It was only nine hours after driving off the bridge, and after a local fisherman had discovered the car, that Kennedy finally reported the accident.

This is, of course, all part of the historical record - an interesting part of which you can read by following the link below to the FBI files on the accident, made available thanks to a Freedom of Information Act request.

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/chappaquiddick.htm

But I will never forget my visceral reaction to the sight of that small and shallow channel, the certain knowledge that Ted Kennedy was a sociopath, a coward, and a cretin, who made every possible move to rescue his political career and almost none to save the life of a young woman.

That he wasn't properly prosecuted but received a slap on the wrist with a two-month suspended sentence speaks volumes about the nature of political power and our justice system.

And that he subsequently went on to become a political icon, idolized as a champion of the downtrodden, says everything there is to say about human gullibility.

Ted Kennedy, R.I.H.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2009, 11:06:45 AM »
^thanks for posting that. It really says it all doesn't it?
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2009, 11:10:29 AM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on August 30, 2009, 11:06:45 AM
^thanks for posting that. It really says it all doesn't it?

Hi,

I think I posted this earlier somewhere but could not find it.  Indeed it makes things very clear.  I am afraid there are two folks who have done things in my life I could not forgive or forget, Teddy is one of them and Jane Fonda is the other. 

I give the author credit for having the courage to say what many of us feel but found it "politically incorrect" to say out loud.  It needed to be said.

Don't know if you follow Glenn Beck but his Friday show said it all.  Basically he said it is time to say enough is enough.  Because I disagree does not make me a racist, etc.  As long as we speak the truth we shall not back down.

I appreciate the kind words,

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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2009, 11:17:40 AM »
I love Glenn Beck. I have to catch the repeats since he's on so early but he is certainly one to watch and follow closely.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2009, 11:30:39 AM »
You guys are coming dangerously close to grave-pissing.
I'm disappointed, and deeply saddened.
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2009, 01:38:34 PM »
Listening to the dem's, you'd think he was up for Saint hood! St Teddy of the tidal pools.....there's a ring to it! :evillaugh: :thatsright:
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Re: Disgusting post from huffingtonpost
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2009, 04:22:59 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on August 30, 2009, 11:30:39 AM
You guys are coming dangerously close to grave-pissing.
I'm disappointed, and deeply saddened.

Hi,

I would not dignify Teddy Kennedy's grave by pissing on it.  He is to me what is wrong with our American political system.  There is royalty in this country, Rockefeller, Kennedy, Bush, Clinton, Gore....all examples of 2-3 generations of a family who are of course only concerned about "serving the public".  If Hillary's last name was Smith she would just be another female lawyer with a chip on her shoulder.  If Bush were names Smith he would be a Texas farmer.  If Gore were named Smith he would be a college professor somewhere, getting fat and hiding behind tenure so he could not get fired.  No different in Chicago with Mayor's Dailey or the Chairman of the Cook County board, Stroeger, who rams it through so when he dies his son takes over.  Cook County, IL has the highest sales taxes in the nation.  The list goes on and on.

They all get elected because of their name, many abuse the power and piss away the public tax dollars like water and you can't get rid of them with a 55 gallon drum of round up.  Most all of them are poster children for why we need term limits.  In most cases the second generation inherited a lot of money and probably never had a real job in their life.

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