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What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« on: August 27, 2009, 01:33:19 PM »
From ABC. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/08/what-do-the-kennedys-mean-to-you.html

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Is there a single memory of a member of the Kennedy clan that sticks out in your mind?  Do you think they are better known for their work in government, or as a wealthy and powerful family?  And with the passing of Sen. Ted Kennedy, do you think another member of the family will emerge as its public leader?  Tell us your thoughts...

To me the Kennedys represent the worst of America...middling talent combined with an over inflated sense of importance.

They may well be lovely people on a personal level but on the public stage they have for the most part been disasters.

 
Posted by: Drew | Aug 27, 2009 12:39:28 PM

 
To me the Kennedy's are a family who think they are elite American royalty. Above the law, they abuse alcohol, drugs, women with no penalty. Ted Kennedy killed a young woman for crying out loud! I'm glad to see this "dynasty" end. Good riddance.

I'll never forget what a gentleman Teddy was when he offered to take me for a ride home one evening. He was so gracious, the way he opened the door for me and made sure my seat belt was buckled.

He was just such a great conversationalist, it made me wonder when he'd be president.

But, as with all things, they never turn out like you'd like. You see, somehow we ended up in a lake. Teddy managed to swim to safety. I knew he'd come back for me. But he never did.

I was found dead, the next day, by local fishermen. My life ended. Teddy was given a slap on the wrist because of his political connections.

I'll never forget him.

 
Posted by: Mary | Aug 27, 2009 12:43:33 PM

 
Corruption...cover-ups...leftist wingnuts. Encapsulates all that is wrong in DC right now.

 
Posted by: John M. | Aug 27, 2009 12:44:48 PM

 
There are a great number of memories the Kennedy's are known for, but I believe Chappaquiddick sums it up best. A family where individuals were protected from having to take responsibility for their actions, while given limitless opportunities. Many in the Kennedy clan took to self destructive behaviors like ducks to water. No pun intended.

I think of superficiality, celebrity and the unhealthy desire to establish royalty in America, when I think of the Kennedy clan. Even the better Kennedy men like JFK and Bobby often demonstrated an arrogance that should never be tolerated among those who wish to lead. The Kennedy story is a tale of wasted opportunity and the wreckage that they left behind.

 
Posted by: Stickeenotes | Aug 27, 2009 12:50:18 PM

 
These are people who got rich on ill-gotten gains. They fill American political circles like sewage in a holding tank. Festering, degrading.
Ungrateful, uncaring while hiding behind a pretense of caring for the common people.
America will be a better place when all traces of them are flushed from the political system.

 
Posted by: Rick in ohio | Aug 27, 2009 12:53:06 PM

 
I will remember JFK for the space program that landed a man on the moon. He was a flawed man and made serious mistakes, but his heart was with America.

I remember RFK for his tragic death at the hands of a Palestinian, but I was too young to know much about him.

I will remember Edward Kennedy for the 1965 Immigration bill that is turning the US into a Third World country, for Chappaquiddick, for his work with George Bush to force illegal alien amnesty down the throats of the American people despite 75% opposition - twice, and for his lies about Judge Bork and Clarence Thomas. He was instrumental to most disastrous liberal government programs during his senate career.He was a bad man. I do not mourn his death.

I do not think we will hear much from the Kennedy family again. I wish Caroline well, and hope she devotes herself and her fortune to charitable causes, but she is not right for public office.

 
Posted by: anon | Aug 27, 2009 12:56:16 PM

 
The Shrivers were nice.

 
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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 01:36:00 PM »
The whole Kennedy clan was no more than a pimple on the butt of humanity.
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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 01:47:48 PM »
An overrated American aristocratic and sleazy family. John F. Kennedy was a womanizer and even his wife, Jacqueline knew that.

Here is the blight of JFK.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane/7250/thoughts/jfk.html
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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 01:53:24 PM »

From Moonbattery.  :rotf:

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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 01:58:50 PM »
Some combination of "Inbred trust-fund dissolute libertines" and "Media darlings who would be feted by an adoring press even if caught devouring live babies," I suppose...
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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 04:21:24 PM »
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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 04:25:09 PM »
When I think of the Kennedys, the first thing that always always always comes to mind is "using other people's money to demonstrate their charity."

The Kennedys have always gotten the credit, the public esteem, for being nice guys who care, but most forget the Kennedys dug into other people's wallets, not their own.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 04:40:04 PM »

From Moonbattery.  :rotf:

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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 05:01:00 PM »
The People's Cube has some hilarious sheet!

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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 08:36:28 AM »
Hi,

Received the following in a newsletter today.  One of the more interestng things I have read.  As one of the elderly members of this board I will also say this.  There sre some things in life that are easy to pass off as youthfull ignorance, you chuckle and move on.  On the other hands there are some character issues, regardless of age, that many in my generation cannot forgive.  I know they better not let the public know where Jane Fonda is buried because grass will never grow on her grave.  Same holds true for the issue that will haunt Teddy Kennedy through his life and beyond.

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Dear Reader,

It is said that one should not speak poorly of the dead. But it is also said that one should not discuss politics or religion in polite company, and we regularly violate that dictum. Thus, committing another faux pas gives us no real pause.

I am, of course, warming up to say a few unkind words about the just deceased Sen. Kennedy.

In reviewing his life, his fans will hold him up as a flawed but still shining beacon for the common man. Quoting one mostly favorable article today.

"Kennedy entered Harvard College in 1950, but was suspended the following year for allowing another student to take a Spanish test for him."

And people claim there is such a thing as media bias! Pshaw!

I'm sure that the student Kennedy so kindly "allowed" to take his Spanish test - no doubt because the poor fellow needed to hone his test-taking skills - virtually begged Ted to let him stand in.

But his cheating ways, which extended to drunkenly chasing the girlfriends of younger clan members around family compounds, are not the source of my gripe about the all-too-human Kennedy.

My issue emanates from a stop some years ago by the side of the road in Martha's Vineyard. On the island for a vacation, I took the short detour to see the site of Kennedy's infamous accident at the bridge to Chappaquiddick. Getting out of the car, I vividly remember my first impression.

"This is it? That's where Kennedy's car went in?"

The thing is that the canal is narrow and shallow. I'll give Kennedy the benefit of the doubt that he was disoriented - massive quantities of alcohol will do that to a guy - but I won't give him anything toward his contention that he couldn't have taken more active measures to save Mary Jo Kopechne's life.

Any reasonably strong swimmer - which I assume he was, having grown up on the water - could have made the shallow dive necessary to get her out. But even if he was too drunk or scared to pull that off, he could have quickly found the help needed to get her out before the air bubble in the car was exhausted and she drowned. Instead, walking by a fire station and a private house, stopping at neither to request help, he trod a circuitous path to his hotel, where, after changing into dry clothes and lamely trying to establish an alibi by visiting the front desk to complain of a loud party, he turned in.

It was only nine hours after driving off the bridge, and after a local fisherman had discovered the car, that Kennedy finally reported the accident.

This is, of course, all part of the historical record - an interesting part of which you can read by following the link below to the FBI files on the accident, made available thanks to a Freedom of Information Act request.   

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/chappaquiddick.htm

But I will never forget my visceral reaction to the sight of that small and shallow channel, the certain knowledge that Ted Kennedy was a sociopath, a coward, and a cretin, who made every possible move to rescue his political career and almost none to save the life of a young woman.

That he wasn't properly prosecuted but received a slap on the wrist with a two-month suspended sentence speaks volumes about the nature of political power and our justice system.

And that he subsequently went on to become a political icon, idolized as a champion of the downtrodden, says everything there is to say about human gullibility.

Ted Kennedy, R.I.H.
 

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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 09:38:15 AM »
It's really funny that the other side immortalizes this family considering everything about them supposedly is representative of what liberals claim to hate: over-indulgence, bad behavior, and skirting consequences with wealth and connections.

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Re: What Do the Kennedys Mean to You?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 09:55:29 AM »
It's really funny that the other side immortalizes this family considering everything about them supposedly is representative of what liberals claim to hate: over-indulgence, bad behavior, and skirting consequences with wealth and connections.

Oh, com'on now.  You know the left has no convictions.  They are Satan's tools (whether they know it or not).  Their goal to squash all decency and morality outweighs personal order and consistency.  The Kennedy "family" maintained the very thin phony and dishonest veneer of "Campions Of The Little People".  It doesn't matter that the veneer is less than an inch thick, and that the evil below it, the evil the veneer is there to disguise, goes on for miles.

Ted Kennedy was a liberal.  That is all that matters.  There is no degree of pure scum worthy of scorn as long as the scum is liberal.   

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 04:56:34 PM »
I grew up on Cape Cod, passed by Chappaquiddick many many times, my last condo on the Cape was no more then a 2 minute drive from the "Kennedy Compound." That said I always thought they were just another family of politically corrupt fools using their power and positions to build more wealth while getting reelected by constantly drumming up class warfare issues.
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2009, 11:32:07 PM »
I grew up on Cape Cod, passed by Chappaquiddick many many times, my last condo on the Cape was no more then a 2 minute drive from the "Kennedy Compound." That said I always thought they were just another family of politically corrupt fools using their power and positions to build more wealth while getting reelected by constantly drumming up class warfare issues.

Hi,

Indeed you are more correct than you may imagine.  Joseph Kennedy was a very corrupt man.

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2009, 08:34:26 AM »
What the Kennedys mean to me.....I think it goes something like, "Something, something JACK something."
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