DUmmies Discuss Bulbs, Rusty Spikes, And Single Payer Lighting

[GOBUCKS]

Roon  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-22-09 07:52 PM
Original message
Ten days left to buy traditional lightbulbs: EU
Traditional lightbulbs will disappear from our shops in just ten days.
All conventional pearl, incandescent lightbulbs are being banned by the European Union to
slash energy bills and carbon dioxide emissions.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1208228/...

Don't you have to call a HAZ-MAZ crew when one of these new bulbs break?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6371100
DUmmies will have a problem. If they have to buy these six dollar 60-watt gorebulbs,
how are they going to afford to pay double price for organic vegetables?

ejpoeta  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-22-09 08:25 PM
1. don't think that would make much sense here... i have compact fluorescent bulbs in every light 
socket I can. but there are several places I can't put them... unless i don't put the covers on i guess. and the dining room has the dimmer lights... and covers... so that won't work either. 

DUmmy ejpoeta doesn't understand. When the DUmmies are talking about "the planet", making sense is not an issue.

FLDCVADem (262 posts)      Sat Aug-22-09 09:00 PM
6. I had a few but I got rid of them
The light was awful (flickering), plus we have lots of dimmer switches and the CFCs are useless there. Unless they come up with a much better product, I'll be hoarding incandescents in a couple of years. 

Spider Jerusalem  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-22-09 08:58 PM
5. The EU is ahead of the US here; US legislated phase-out of incandescents doesn't start until 2014
and the net benefit in reduced energy consumption as a result of eliminating incandescent bulbs outweighs the (very small) risks associated with the miniscule amounts of mercury they contain.

The Daily Mail is a horrid right-wing rag (known as the 'Daily Heil' for their favourable view of Hitler right up until 1939) that specialises in highly indignant articles regarding anything to do with the EU, immigrants, Muslims, etc. The Mail's editorial position is extremely Eurosceptic and the only reason they're running this article is to bleat about the 'faceless Eurocrats in Brussels stuffing low-energy bulbs down the throats of Britons whether we want them or not'. 

DUmmies are always in favor of faceless bureaucrats stuffing things down our throats.

ProdigalJunkMail  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-22-09 09:04 PM
7. it will be soon that i will not be able to escape flourescent lights
and the headaches that come from the flicker. until they figure out how to remove that flicker i will continue to despise them. they have improved the light quality...but the flicker...shit!

FLDCVADem (262 posts)      Sat Aug-22-09 09:05 PM
8. I agree
I think they suck. 

 

Spider Jerusalem  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-22-09 09:06 PM
9. Sorry, that's a load of bollocks.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=flicke... 

Uh-oh. A disagreement among the DUmmies. This will not end well.

ProdigalJunkMail  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-22-09 09:08 PM
11. when you live my life you can call my experience bollocks...
go call someone else a liar...

Spider Jerusalem  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-22-09 09:12 PM
13. I can call your experience bollocks anyway.
Because the 'flicker' is at a rate far too high to be detected. I have extreme sensory sensitivities due to Asperger Syndrome; I don't get headaches from compact fluorescent bulbs nor do I observe any flicker in them (larger fluorescent bulbs can be a different story, but if compact fluorescents did induce headaches I'd have had one by now).

DUmmy Spider Jerusalem has a mental illness that makes him an expert on bulbs. OK.
 

ProdigalJunkMail  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-22-09 09:13 PM
14. i guess the Aspergers is your excuse for being a rude prick...

 

DUmmy Spider Jerusalem and his mental illness have had enough:

Spider Jerusalem  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-22-09 09:21 PM
17. You can go **** yourself with a rusty spike.

MercutioATC  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 12:23 AM
21. Oh, how I hope that post doesn't get deleted!
Rarely do we get to see "**** yourself with a rusty spike" here at DU.

Very rarely. Makes me get all nostalgic for the good old days, when you heard it frequently
 

Odin2005  (1000+ posts)         Sun Aug-23-09 12:37 AM
24. Forgive him, not getting other people's POV is a common failing of us Aspies.

The DUmp is crawling with "Aspies" tonight.

Odin2005  (1000+ posts)         Sun Aug-23-09 12:35 AM
23. Just because you and I have no problems with CFBs doesn't mean other Aspies do not.

 

Odin2005  (1000+ posts)         Sun Aug-23-09 12:31 AM
22. This sucks. Many autistics have extreme sensory issues with florescent lights.
I am one of the lucky autistics that don't have that issue and so I can and do use florescent bulbs),
but many autistics can be driven crazy by the flickering of a florescent light that other people don't
perceive. This is discriminatory.

DUmmy Odin2005 has yet another mental illness?  There seems to be a lot of that at the DUmp.

Motown_Johnny  (1000+ posts)         Sun Aug-23-09 12:47 AM
26. they have LCD light bulbs now.. but the cost is way to high for most of us
since you are in europe maybe your health care would cover special light bulbs for people who can't
be near the compact florescent bulbs. The good news is that the LCD bulbs pretty much last forever,
so long as you do not break them

 
Single payer illumination!

[Celtic Rose]

I have CFL's in my bedroom, and they flicker like crazy.  Very visibly.  I have a dimmer switch in my room as well, and if I turn off the lights with my hand held control, they keep flickering all.night.long.    I've actually gotten used to it, and they were expensive enough to make me stubborn about keeping them. 

[tuolumnejim]

DUmmy Odin2005 has yet another mental illness?  There seems to be a lot of that at the DUmp.

I'm starting to think thats how they make whatever pitance they get.

[AllosaursRus]

the miniscule amounts of mercury they contain.

Multiply that by a coupla billion that no one ever cleans up, asshat! NOW is it a hazard? What a ****in' idiot!

[BlueStateSaint]

Asperger's, Tourette's, . . . it all seems to be the same at the DUmp.

[Carl]

Gee,another DUmbass claiming to have a mental disorder.
What a surprise.

[JohnnyReb]

The DUmp...the flower of American intelligentsia....all blooming idiots.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Frankly these bulbs suck, and some of the DUmmies actually get it, surprisingly.  I use a few of them in locations that are especially hard to change and in which I won't be reading or doing any detail work, though.  Hopefully these little pollution disasters will be replaced by affordable LED lights at some point.

[miskie]

I have a bunch of dimmer compatible CF bulbs I had gotten for nothing - the local power company was doing free upgrades to CF bulbs, and since nearly every ceiling fixture has a dimmer, I ended up cleaning him out of all of his dimmer compatible bulbs.

The only time I notice flicker is when the bulbs are on their way out.

It doesn't change the fact that the manufacture of the bulbs create a ton of pollution, and they leave behind a toxic surprise that will eventually end up in groundwater. Just alot of other 'green' products, CFs are a lot of feel-good hooey where the pollution problem belongs to somebody else.

[Lord Undies]

This has nothing to do with pro and con, but yet, I have a 60 watt bulb I bought from Fuller Brush in 1988.  It has been in the fixture in our dressing area for 21 years.  It still burns bright.  I was 34 years old when I screwed it in.    

[Celtic Rose]

Multiply that by a coupla billion that no one ever cleans up, asshat! NOW is it a hazard? What a ******' idiot!

They are worried about the minuscule amounts of everything else, why does mercury get an exception 

[NHSparky]

I changed the inside ones to CFL's a year ago in the hopes that my power bill would be reduced at least a little bit.  Nope--no change in the power bill, and the damn things are a BITCH to get to full brightness in winter when I've got the house at 60 degrees.  I can't even imagine putting them outside or in the garage in winter.

[Lord Undies]

They are worried about the minuscule amounts of everything else, why does mercury get an exception 

Because without the mercury the libbulbs don't work, and if the libbulbs don't work they cannot be mandated, and the loss of a mandate is the loss of power.

Once you understand the actual goals of environmentalism has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with forced shared misery for the classes below the lib-elite, it all gets very simple to grasp.

[GOBUCKS]

Because without the mercury the libbulbs don't work, and if the libbulbs don't work they cannot be mandated, and the loss of a mandate is the loss of power.

Once you understand the actual goals of environmentalism has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with forced shared misery for the classes below the lib-elite, it all gets very simple to grasp.

I think we have a winner!

The only problem with these six-dollar bulbs is they don't work worth a damn.
I did like a lot of people, bought a few to put in places where changing bulbs is a nuisance.
I found that if the location doesn't allow free circulation of air around the bulb, it will fail quickly.
Also, when you turn them on, although they're instantly on, they don't reach full brightness for a few minutes.
I thought they were just fluorescent bulbs, only more compact, but that's apparently not true.
They're like a light bulb designed by a democrat.

[The Village Idiot]

The DUmp...the flower of American intelligentsia....all blooming idiots.

You know...

The Daily Mail is a horrid right-wing rag (known as the 'Daily Heil' for their favourable view of Hitler right up until 1939) that specialises in highly indignant articles regarding anything to do with the EU, immigrants, Muslims, etc

Gee, thats the year of the Hitler-Stalin pact with left-wingers loved Hitler for a coupla years. Does anyone at DU ever THINK before they post?

[BEG]

I have dry eyes and flourescent lights irritate my eyes more than any other single factor besides humidity.  My eyes can feel perfectly normal and then when I am around flourescent lights my eyes are immediately red and feel irritated. I refuse to use any flourescent lighting in by house.

[Lord Undies]

I have dry eyes and flourescent lights irritate my eyes more than any other single factor besides humidity.  My eyes can feel perfectly normal and then when I am around flourescent lights my eyes are immediately red and feel irritated. I refuse to use any flourescent lighting in by house.

Not only that, but they make things and people look terrible.  There is a reason funeral home viewing rooms do not have flourescent lights hanging over the open casket.

[BEG]

Not only that, but they make things and people look terrible.  There is a reason funeral home viewing rooms do not have flourescent lights hanging over the open casket.

Which is more important to me than how my eyes feel.  

[Lord Undies]

Which is more important to me than how my eyes feel.  

Grace Slick once refused to get onto an elevator that had bright flourescent lighting.  She could feel a booger in her nose.  She knew everyone would be able to see it and they'd be staring at her.