9/11 Truth:

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spooked911  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-01-09 11:15 AM
Original message
The Official Story is simply untenable for many basic reasons 
 that don't even take into account the physical evidence:

1) the massive documentation of forewarnings

2) the hijacking drills and other drills on the day of 9/11

3) the political connections of intel agencies to terrorism

4) the flaws in the hijacker stories

5) the obvious benefit 9/11 had to the DOD, the intel agencies and defense contractors in terms of money and power

etc.

The CIA, the military, the politicians and the media CANNOT be given the benefit of the doubt that they are telling the truth on this critical issue. This should be abundantly clear by now given their behavior on other matters in just the past eight years.

All this is more than enough to point to an inside job where the hijackers were allowed to perpetrate the attacks with significant official facilitation. Note-- in this scenario, there is no demolition, no video fakery, there are the official planes.

Any honest person should be able to get to this point of doubting the official story.

However, the next step is realizing that if the attack was facilitated, that the facilitators would not risk real hijackers flying around with real planes, with uncertain consequences.

The next step after this then, is analyzing the physical evidence for clues of more extensive involvement by the "facilitators"-- signs of fakery with the planes and videos, signs of fakery at the plane crash sites, signs of demolition of the towers. As far as I am concerned, the physical evidence is just as clear as the initial signs of an inside job.

I think to a certain extent, honest people can disagree as to the extent of what was done by the US govt and affiliated private US contractors to perpetrate the 9/11 crime. But everyone should be able to agree that there is clear evidence of an inside job.

For some reason though, for the past few years, this discussion board has been dominated by people who can't even admit that 9/11 was an inside job! Worse yet, these people constantly ridicule people who support the inside job thesis! Or link to articles that ridicule the inside job thesis and/or people who support the inside job thesis!

The official story is simply untenable. To support the official story thesis is incredibly naive. Yet there are large numbers of official story supporters who are clearly not children who spend huge amounts of time here arguing precisely for the official story. They ignore or pooh-pooh EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT CONTRADICTS THE OFFICIAL STORY.

Of course, the facilitators/perpetrators of 9/11 have every incentive to maintain the fantastical official story and to block any large scale or official action to get at the truth and to bring the facilitators/perpetrators to justice. The stakes are obviously huge and like in most matters of politics, ordinary citizens are at a disadvantage to those with more money and power.

Nonetheless, as Democrats/liberals who care about the truth and the abuse of power, we should all be able to admit that the evidence for an inside job is overwhelming.

Spooked logic is at least as wacked out as the rest of DU, however- even they find her/him/it crazy.

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Usrename (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-01-09 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
2. In reality, there really is no official story.
 The official 9/11 Commission Report is based on information obtained through torture.

It can not stand.

The report itself is a war crime, separate and fully removed from all of the rest of the war crimes. Its existence is a violation of the UN Convention Against Torture.



Article 15


Each State Party shall ensure that any statement which is established to have been made as a result of torture shall not be invoked as evidence in any proceedings, except against a person accused of torture as evidence that the statement was made.

http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cat.html


Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who's testimony/confession comprises over a hundred footnotes in the report, was repeatedly waterboarded.

The existence of the report itself is illegal.

Once you remove all the torture confessions, the whole narrative virtually disappears. There is no "official" story.

The new talking point: Since torture isn't 'allowed' by our law, the confessions are not allowed, thus there is no proof...



.... thus 9/11 is an inside job.

[Carl]

There is nothing nuttier then a troother...at least with UFOs,Bigfoot and the like one can`t say they are "disproven" just that no one has proven it yet by actually producing the real thing.
With the 9/11 nuts they must deny what was seen in real life by hundreds or thousands of actual eyewitnesses.

It is mind boggling.